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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 13, 2023 01:19 PM
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alMacJan 13, 2023 01:19 PM
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Next is free FSD! Yah. Primary item that makes me move to Tesla.

If the cost cutting and lowering prices are expected, why is he expanding Giga factory facilities to put more pressure? Confused
Jan 13, 2023 01:19 PM
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jdang7891Jan 13, 2023 01:19 PM
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Quote from OnTheHunt_SC :
What is the typical % apr on tesla cars currently? Does tesla offer its own financing?
5.4% on their website the last time I saw
Jan 13, 2023 01:19 PM
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nithinkumar65Jan 13, 2023 01:19 PM
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Quote from TofuVic :
If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022, I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
How much does it cost for taxes and fees ?
Jan 13, 2023 01:21 PM
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ronakshah2000Jan 13, 2023 01:21 PM
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Quote from Deuce24 :
Because BMW's electric suv (the iX) starts at $88,000 and doesn't qualify for the rebate, has worse performance and less range? BMW's i4 is a car, which starts at $55,000, has worse performance and less range.
I bought an i4 on 12/30, and maybe would have considered a model Y at these current prices. The Y was equivalent or a touch more than my i4 at the time. In truth, I should compare the M3 RWD to my i4, and the M3 would have been, and is now even more affordable.

That said, a bit of sunk-cost mentality, I really love my i4. I would not have the same joy with the Y or 3, but that does mean I'm paying $10 - $20k for the "joy".

The price cut is a hell of a shot across the bow of all other EV makers. I had looked and was very serious about the Ioniq 5, but would pick the Y over that at these prices.
Jan 13, 2023 01:22 PM
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OutlawdevilJan 13, 2023 01:22 PM
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Quote from CoreyC1521 :
Just because you get a refund doesn't mean the credit wouldn't help. If your tax liability is high enough, your refund would be higher. It depends on how much money you make and what your withholding is.

If your tax liability is $8000 and your withholding was $9000, you get $1000 refunded. This tax credit lowers your liability so under the same scenario, your refund would be $8500 because your new tax liability is only $500.

If your tax liability is already low, due to other credits or just lower income, the tax credit isn't as beneficial since it is not refundable.
Thanks, seen too many people who don't get this concept giving out their opinions. Ask your CPA!
Jan 13, 2023 01:22 PM
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JayroJan 13, 2023 01:22 PM
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Quote from nithinkumar65 :
How much does it cost for taxes and fees ?
The answer lies before you.
Jan 13, 2023 01:22 PM
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RealDealSlayerJan 13, 2023 01:22 PM
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Love my Tesla!!

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Jan 13, 2023 01:23 PM
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namxJan 13, 2023 01:23 PM
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Quote from Tri1914 :
I think other automakers will unlikely decrease much if anything. This is more of a tesla problem, their cars are just priced too high
Not sure about that. If you lose market share, you may have to play the price war game.
Jan 13, 2023 01:23 PM
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InsulatedGummyJan 13, 2023 01:23 PM
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RIP people who bought a Tesla last year. I would be furious right now if I bought one last year.
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Jan 13, 2023 01:24 PM
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redsox9547Jan 13, 2023 01:24 PM
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Quote from dragontales :
Do I tell payroll at work just simply set aside $7500/24 paychecks for me?
you can't really do that....it's NONREFUNDABLE credit which means it doesn't count as a tax payment like withholding (refundable does) so you could get hit with under withholding penalty, etc.
Jan 13, 2023 01:25 PM
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PgaJan 13, 2023 01:25 PM
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Quote from TH0R :
Cybertruck won't be anywhere near the $40K initial price. Tesla has stated it will be more expensive. Expect to pay at least $50K for the cheapest model, but probably more imo.

Cybertruck should be released sometime this year.
Don't count on it being released this year. I was quoting some suspension components for then in Jan '22 when they were still planning on SOP in spring of '23. Minimum development time is about 2 years….
Jan 13, 2023 01:25 PM
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OutlawdevilJan 13, 2023 01:25 PM
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Quote from netstroller :
That's a great idea, getting some good probable future tax benefits out of it.
This in fact is great idea, you control how much to rollover and add on that tax liability
Jan 13, 2023 01:25 PM
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ThriftyBook977Jan 13, 2023 01:25 PM
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Quote from mariox :
You downgraded. Toyota > *
Not really. That Toyota was made in the US and started leaking engine oil at <40K miles. I traded it in to Tesla at 18K.
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Jan 13, 2023 01:26 PM
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TH0RJan 13, 2023 01:26 PM
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Quote from Pga :
Don't count on it being released this year. I was quoting some suspension components for then in Jan '22 when they were still planning on SOP in spring of '23. Minimum development time is about 2 years….
Thanks for the info. It's already ridiculous how long they've delayed, so for them not to release it this year would be a big mistake imo. I think it will happen. nod
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Jan 13, 2023 01:27 PM
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neo_nyJan 13, 2023 01:27 PM
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If you don't qualify due to MAGI limits, is it possible to have a joint title with a family member who qualifies and claim credit on their tax return instead?

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