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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 13, 2023 04:20 PM
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Loveday22Jan 13, 2023 04:20 PM
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Quote from Boomskie :
Even with no taxes owed, taxpayers can still apply any refundable credits they qualify for and receive the amount of the credit or credits as a refund. For example, if you end up with no taxes due and you qualify for a $2,000 refundable tax credit, you will receive the entire $2,000 as a refund.
This is not a refundable credit.
Jan 13, 2023 04:21 PM
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Loveday22Jan 13, 2023 04:21 PM
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Quote from slkmaster2000 :
Can I adjust how much tax is taken out of my paycheck, or no?
You can certainly do that with your W4 just need to adjust your withholdings.
Jan 13, 2023 04:22 PM
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Loveday22Jan 13, 2023 04:22 PM
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Quote from Knightshade :
Except what you are saying is factually wrong.

You can EASILY still get a refund but qualify for the full credit.

You do not understand the basics of how this works. Go re-read what I wrote about the 1040, then look at the form, and this should help you understand.
I read the IRS guidelines and multiple articles on this topic. I am still unclear what you're finding a problem with. If you do not owe the IRS you cannot claim the tax credit. I have posted links in an earlier post where it is clearly stated.
Jan 13, 2023 04:22 PM
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np1050Jan 13, 2023 04:22 PM
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Quote from livelifeup22 :
You can certainly do that with your W4 just need to adjust your withholdings.
Is there any reason why I wouldn't withhold everything? At least I get to hold onto more of my money for longer, and come tax time of the amount paid would be the same, I'd rather do that, no?
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Jan 13, 2023 04:22 PM
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BoomskieJan 13, 2023 04:22 PM
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Quote from livelifeup22 :
This is not a refundable credit.
Your right, deleted.
Jan 13, 2023 04:23 PM
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williamlwJan 13, 2023 04:23 PM
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Tax brackets so you can see what your tax liability is. You would need to owe at least $7500 in taxes to get the $7500 credit.

https://www.nerdwallet.com/articl...x-brackets
Jan 13, 2023 04:23 PM
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pugxiwawaJan 13, 2023 04:23 PM
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Quote from fresh82 :
why does everyone assume they'll get the full $7500? battery component part of the ira has yet to be determined. currently the battery materials composition is not >=50% sourced in the US. so it's safer to assume you'll be getting $3750 instead
it will be $7500 before battery component is determined, therefore you should buy it now if you want a guaranteed $7500. Once battery component part is published in March/April that might/might not change.

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Jan 13, 2023 04:24 PM
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PgaJan 13, 2023 04:24 PM
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Quote from tqlla3k :
The calculation I was responding to was a model y in California.

a Model 3 gets 4 miles per KWH. It takes 12.5Kwh to get 50 miles.

A Tesla Model 3 costs $4.25 to go 50 miles at 0.34 cents per Kwh.
A Tesla Model 3 costs $2.81 to go 33 miles at 0.34 cents per Kwh.
A Camry hybrid gets 50MPG. It costs $3/gal in dallas.
A 4cyl Camry gets 33MPG. It costs $3/gal in dallas.

IMO, if you cant charge at home... dont buy an EV.
Also don't buy an EV if you live in states when winter temps are expected to normally get into 10-20*F.
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teslafan_netJan 13, 2023 04:24 PM
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Quote from RockyBazinga :
It would be nice of Tesla gives away advanced Autopilot feature as a compensation for the loss for recent buyers... Or some coupon of some sort for discounts on self driving upgrades...
Then people who already paid for those software features will complain next. Tesla can't make everyone happy. Are you being nice to Tesla when the price of the car goes back up by sending them a check?
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DanD8720Jan 13, 2023 04:24 PM
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Y electric battery car. ever heard about blood cobalt. Bad for the environment. Dumpest people think electric car is clean for the environment but it is the opposite. 1st blood cobalt is use in lithium production (your electric car has African children's blood), 2nd Lithium is bad (no one live a 100 miles radius of the plant to produce lithium.) 3rd Electric harvest and production ( Electric Dams (damn nature) kill environment, so nuclear wastes, solar power great for human bad for birds.. and so on. Electric car only good if we can run it like the local motive. Local motive run like 1 gal of fuel fully carts for 50 miles. It is power with the electric motor, and the electric motor is power by a diesel electric dynamo. We can have a dynamo power the electric car, why not. Why power lithium battery. Lithium electric car is a oven, and you is a roasted pig. lol
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kage4567Jan 13, 2023 04:24 PM
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Quote from bill_tong :
I thought under the new rules the credit was a direct dealer credit, which would apply immediately to the purchase price of the car and not appear as a tax credit that you need to claim back.
Not until 2024
Jan 13, 2023 04:25 PM
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EliteDealHunterJan 13, 2023 04:25 PM
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Quote from livelifeup22 :
I read the IRS guidelines and multiple articles on this topic. I am still unclear what you're finding a problem with. If you do not owe the IRS you cannot claim the tax credit. I have posted links in an earlier post where it is clearly stated.
You can owe the IRS $20k in tax and pay $30k in taxes through payroll throughout the year. At the end of the year you get a $10k refund. You still owed the IRS $20k though, so you also can get the full $7500 credit. Now you get a $17,500 refund.
Jan 13, 2023 04:25 PM
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DeaIKing23Jan 13, 2023 04:25 PM
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These cars are junk
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pugxiwawaJan 13, 2023 04:25 PM
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Quote from vamsikondapalli :
Price
$54,990
(Excludes tax, registration, discounts and fees)

will this be eligible for tax credit ?
yes, it's based off MSRP including color option, but excluding tax, registration, destination...etc. So 54,990 will qualify.

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cgigateJan 13, 2023 04:26 PM
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Quote from tqlla3k :
The calculation I was responding to was a model y in California.

a Model 3 gets 4 miles per KWH. It takes 12.5Kwh to get 50 miles.

A Tesla Model 3 costs $4.25 to go 50 miles at 0.34 cents per Kwh.
A Tesla Model 3 costs $2.81 to go 33 miles at 0.34 cents per Kwh.
A Camry hybrid gets 50MPG. It costs $3/gal in dallas.
A 4cyl Camry gets 33MPG. It costs $3/gal in dallas.

IMO, if you cant charge at home... dont buy an EV.
I charge my EV in the company parking garage, it is free...
Many companies/buildings parking garage in DFW have free EV charging , Dallas city previously also offer many free EV charging stations (50% of the ports offer free charges for your electric car.)
Last edited by cgigate January 13, 2023 at 09:29 AM.
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