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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 13, 2023 08:15 PM
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supernomanJan 13, 2023 08:15 PM
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Quote from Mydiscover :
Why do i need to register my out of state car to Cali? I have homes in 3 states and cali is one of them. I could keep my car registered in my other place of residence. I don't understand what you mean.
As long as you don't have residency in CA, then you're fine and you can benefit from buying from a lower or no sales tax state.
Jan 13, 2023 08:15 PM
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vndragonslayerJan 13, 2023 08:15 PM
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Quote from HonestMammoth473 :
There's a bit of a false economy going on here. You're initially saving quite a bit off the typical price of a Model Y, but considering these are rated below average on reliability and cost, on average, 30% more to repair than other vehicles, you will ended up spending more than you would on another comparable vehicle.
walking on feet is also free and doesn't cost gas or electricity...
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Jan 13, 2023 08:16 PM
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TheSource777Jan 13, 2023 08:16 PM
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Quote from flightxxx :
the battery pack costs 20-30k? doesnt tesla advertside the battery is good for 300k miles?
Yah, this guy's just spouting nonsense. Tesla batteries can last several hundred thousand miles lol. https://electrek.co/2020/06/06/te...placement/
Jan 13, 2023 08:16 PM
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OgreDaveJan 13, 2023 08:16 PM
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I see some Model Y in stock now in Orange County .. so tempting but the interest rates make it hard to stomach the payments. Then tack on insurance and I don't know how so many can make such a quick buying decision.
Jan 13, 2023 08:17 PM
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OutlawdevilJan 13, 2023 08:17 PM
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Quote from fotomaster :
Anyone knows if it can still be qualified for $7,500 tax credit when I select blue color exterior and white interior options? Ty.
In March credit could change…so no one really knows
Jan 13, 2023 08:17 PM
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een77Jan 13, 2023 08:17 PM
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Does anyone know if Model Y (<55k configuration) now qualifies for Massachusetts MOR-EV $3500 rebate?
Jan 13, 2023 08:17 PM
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MydiscoverJan 13, 2023 08:17 PM
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Quote from vndragonslayer :
did you just move to california? california has taxes upon registration regardless of where you bought your vehicle... other states will ask where are you registering it.. theylll collect the taxes
No I didn't just move to Cali. I have a home there but just visit once in a while. I just leave my car registered from where I bought it from tax free as I still have a home there as well. I can drive it anywhere in the USA tax free.

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KnightshadeJan 13, 2023 08:17 PM
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Quote from benq35 :
I have a strange feeling that on upcoming Autoshow in NY in April, other companies will present many new EVs. And Tesla is dropped price knowing that. I will wait to see what happens. I strongly believe that cars made before pandemic are better in quality of built and parts better. So I keep my older regular gas car.

Other companies have been presenting new EVs at car shows for 10+ years now.

They don't end up actually producing most of them, and the ones they do they tend to produce in tiny volumes.... so not much of a concern.

Even the ones that make it to market are small scale in comparison... Ford for example sold 39,458 Mach Es in 2022.

Which is about how many EVs Tesla sold in 10 days on average in 2022.


And Ford just lost the $7500 tax credit on the Mach E for 2023, while Tesla gained it.

(Plus Tesla makes a large profit on each EV sold- Ford loses money on each Mach E sold)


That's not to say nobody is working on scaling.... VW is doing the best job among legacy car makers but they're still well behind and constantly hobbled by German labor unions and vast incompetence on software... and BYD is scaling well in China though mostly at the lower end of the market. But in the coming years there's gonna be a bloodbath among most "known" legacy carmakers.
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Jan 13, 2023 08:18 PM
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JenovaImprovedJan 13, 2023 08:18 PM
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Yay I just love losing 5 figures on the value of my car instantly. My insurance company and car registration better drop my price.
Jan 13, 2023 08:18 PM
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gen2Jan 13, 2023 08:18 PM
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53,000+6.25% sales tax = $56,300

5yr loan @ 6% interest is $9k, for a grand total of $65,300 !!
Jan 13, 2023 08:19 PM
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timedkJan 13, 2023 08:19 PM
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Quote from sholbrook22 :
Federal tax credit applies to LEASING as well as purchase. Great option if you don't have the tax liability to use to rebate.

Also check into local/state EV incentives.
How would the leasing break down? Does the manufacturer pass the whole $7500 to the buyer?
Jan 13, 2023 08:19 PM
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dilbert007Jan 13, 2023 08:19 PM
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Haha I am glad to see this Tesla Fan boy's TIde pod-eating episode. This company breathing on its hype will eventually die by it. For 45 to 50k investment get chrysler pacifica plug in hybrid. Come summer these teslas in states like California it will become cloth hangers so much for renewable energy experiment at the cost of common man.
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Jan 13, 2023 08:20 PM
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MydiscoverJan 13, 2023 08:20 PM
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Quote from OgreDave :
I see some Model Y in stock now in Orange County .. so tempting but the interest rates make it hard to stomach the payments. Then tack on insurance and I don't know how so many can make such a quick buying decision.
People here pay cash for the car. They don't need to finance it. I financed my car as it was only 1.45% for 60 months. Also insurance is not too bad for a tesla. About $1150 per year but my states insurance is on the high side I was told which is bad for me.
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MoJackManJan 13, 2023 08:20 PM
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Quote from EfficientWalrus7040 :
Donating to charity is a write off. That reduces your taxable income. A tax credit is a dollar for dollar credit against your tax bill. If you owed $10,000 you'd now owe $2,500. If you owed $500 you'd be getting a rebate of $7,000.
But I thought there is no rebate. You have to owe 7500 to get the money. Meaning make sure you owe at least 7500 on taxes and make less than the income limits

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Jan 13, 2023 08:21 PM
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vndragonslayerJan 13, 2023 08:21 PM
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Quote from Mydiscover :
No I didn't just move to Cali. I have a home there but just visit once in a while. I just leave my car registered from where I bought it from tax free as I still have a home there as well. I can drive it anywhere in the USA tax free.
so you're not a cali resident.. moot to argue .. move on.. californians pay taxes or get penalized.

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