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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 14, 2023 02:29 PM
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thinh4u2Jan 14, 2023 02:29 PM
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Just to confirm, the tax credit now applies at the time of sale, rather than at the end of the 2023 year, is this correct?

This makes a big difference because file 0 dependents on my biweekly upfront so I usually RECEIVE a small tax return at the end of the year. It's my way of controlling my spending throughout the year.

(So with the previous tax credit in 2022, I was not eligible since I did not owe at the end of the year, which was a bummer)
Jan 14, 2023 02:30 PM
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pugxiwawaJan 14, 2023 02:30 PM
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Quote from snowalker :
Yes, makes no financial sense. But the CEO disgusts me. I don't think this is a thing for other things I purchase. I know I am not alone. If every CEO treats employees like he does, 70% of the people here will be only searching for deals on toilet paper.
You are only reading what media wants you to read. If he really really treats employees that bad, wouldn't people just pack up and all quit? This is free country. They are free to move. Losing free gourmet chef making their lunch? No fancy barista coffee? Can't work from home? Wow, those people better take a look at 98% of corporate America jobs and see how many have even close to the benefits they are getting. They are just being brought back to the reality instead of living in a bubble.
Jan 14, 2023 02:30 PM
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mattymsu25Jan 14, 2023 02:30 PM
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Quote from pugxiwawa :
You are only reading what media wants you to read. If he really really treats employees that bad, wouldn't people just pack up and all quit? This is free country. They are free to move. Losing free gourmet chef making their lunch? No fancy barista coffee? Can't work from home? Wow, those people better take a look at 98% of corporate America jobs and see how many have even close to the benefits they are getting. They are just being brought back to the reality instead of living in a bubble.
lolz. Yeah, nailed it.
Jan 14, 2023 02:33 PM
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topchoJan 14, 2023 02:33 PM
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Yeah, Elon is horrible. He had the nerve to give the pink slips to scores of snowflakes who thought they were entitled to a competitive ongoing compensation without having to work. The nightmare of every investor.
Jan 14, 2023 02:33 PM
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dparkyJan 14, 2023 02:33 PM
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Quote from TofuVic :
If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
Same here I ended up paying $68k, there should be some kind of class action
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Jan 14, 2023 02:34 PM
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krizz90Jan 14, 2023 02:34 PM
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Price seems about right considering you won't be impressing anyone by driving a Tesla these days. Musk has put a sour taste in the mouth of everyone except his loyal fanboys. Go with one of the many better options now available, that don't come with the Musky odor.
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Jan 14, 2023 02:37 PM
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n1kki6Jan 14, 2023 02:37 PM
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Quote from krizz90 :
Price seems about right considering you won't be impressing anyone by driving a Tesla these days. Musk has put a sour taste in the mouth of everyone except his loyal fanboys. Go with one of the many better options now available, that don't come with the Musky odor.
You buy cars to impress people? Are you 16?

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Jan 14, 2023 02:37 PM
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gtsh0pp3rJan 14, 2023 02:37 PM
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Quote from dparky :
Same here I ended up paying $68k, there should be some kind of class action
Class action for what? Because you missed a deal that came after the fact and learned you paid too much? No one forced you
Jan 14, 2023 02:39 PM
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gtsh0pp3rJan 14, 2023 02:39 PM
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Quote from krizz90 :
Price seems about right considering you won't be impressing anyone by driving a Tesla these days. Musk has put a sour taste in the mouth of everyone except his loyal fanboys. Go with one of the many better options now available, that don't come with the Musky odor.
Post a better deal/option or move on, no one cares what's you think of some ceo, we are here for deals
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buttonsguyJan 14, 2023 02:41 PM
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Quote from dragontales :
Do I tell payroll at work just simply set aside $7500/24 paychecks for me?
Short version, if all other qualifiers are met, you simply need to owe 7500.00 to get credit. If you owe 4000 in taxes, you only get a 4000.00 credit. That being said I would claim as many dependents as possible to make sure I owed enough money to maximize the credit.

Remember, treasury is still writing code for the credit so many things can still change.
Jan 14, 2023 02:42 PM
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kupop2Jan 14, 2023 02:42 PM
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Quote from thinh4u2 :
Just to confirm, the tax credit now applies at the time of sale, rather than at the end of the 2023 year, is this correct?

This makes a big difference because file 0 dependents on my biweekly upfront so I usually RECEIVE a small tax return at the end of the year. It's my way of controlling my spending throughout the year.

(So with the previous tax credit in 2022, I was not eligible since I did not owe at the end of the year, which was a bummer)
No, not upfront yet. Plus the tax credit doesn't matter if you owe or get a refund at year end. It's a credit on taxes you owe. If you normally get a small refund you'll get your small refund+7500. Provided you actually have a tax liability of at least 7500 which you should if you work a regular w2 job and make a wage to buy a55k car
Last edited by kupop2 January 14, 2023 at 07:44 AM.
Jan 14, 2023 02:45 PM
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boxturtleJan 14, 2023 02:45 PM
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Quote from thinh4u2 :
Just to confirm, the tax credit now applies at the time of sale, rather than at the end of the 2023 year, is this correct?

This makes a big difference because file 0 dependents on my biweekly upfront so I usually RECEIVE a small tax return at the end of the year. It's my way of controlling my spending throughout the year.

(So with the previous tax credit in 2022, I was not eligible since I did not owe at the end of the year, which was a bummer)
The tax credit application at time of sale does not start until 2024, so you still have to wait until you file your taxes if you buy an ev this year. It does not matter if you owe taxes at the end of the year or not. What matters is what your tax form shows you owe.
Jan 14, 2023 02:45 PM
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mjbailey21Jan 14, 2023 02:45 PM
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Quote from mattymsu25 :
lolz. Yeah, nailed it.
And your response is typical of somebody who doesn't have anything legitimate to say other than repeating the opinions of peasants.
Jan 14, 2023 02:51 PM
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graymen2Jan 14, 2023 02:51 PM
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I'm not in the market for a new car until next year (when my little one is done with preschool to free up $$$).

Will there be a "rebate" in 2024? Where can I get more details.

Sorry to the people who bought this last month.

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Jan 14, 2023 02:53 PM
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FatFreddieJan 14, 2023 02:53 PM
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Quote from achilles_xboxmode :
Damn.. Wife started working in 2022 and our AGI is over 300k for 2022. Won't qualify based on the income limit!!
File Married, separate in 2023, assuming one of you will make under 150k, and put car in that person's name.

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