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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 14, 2023 09:12 PM
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anhdongtxJan 14, 2023 09:12 PM
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Quote from AlexK6706 :
Why does the best vehicle money can buy need $7500 credit to get it off the lot?
It doesn't
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Jan 14, 2023 09:12 PM
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se-riouslyJan 14, 2023 09:12 PM
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Quote from pugxiwawa :
Battery is warranty 8 years 120k miles. Why you worry about it? And there are plenty of tests done for people who drive last 120k and battery only has 15-20% degradation. It's like worrying about paying for engine replacement after 8 years when you are shopping for ICE car.
It's actually like worrying about engine/transmission replacement on an ICE car after 5 years or 60K miles (the typical powertrain warranty).
Jan 14, 2023 09:14 PM
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EliteDealHunterJan 14, 2023 09:14 PM
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Quote from anhdongtx :
It doesn't
Right, it just needs a $14k price drop plus a $7500 tax credit to get it off the lot.
Jan 14, 2023 09:15 PM
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AlexK6706Jan 14, 2023 09:15 PM
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Quote from anhdongtx :
It doesn't
It doesn't but this thread is 200 pages long?
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JamesH9564Jan 14, 2023 09:15 PM
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Quote from AlexK6706 :
I'm not interested in history, I'm interested in current market conditions. If tesla was a reliable luxury sports cars it would neither have a 4 year warranty nor it would get it's ass beaten by an ICE SUV.
The quality benchmarks in car industry, such as Lexus, all have 4-year quality. That doesn't make them less reliable than Hyundai. The point is: don't use the length of warranty as the argument.

Similarly, some ICE SUVs have large engines so they regularly beat sports cars nowadays, even legendary sports cars. Again it doesn't mean those sports cars cease to become sports cars. Straight line acceleration doesn't mean as much for a sports car fan as other things - handling/size/weight/etc.
Jan 14, 2023 09:16 PM
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se-riouslyJan 14, 2023 09:16 PM
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Quote from gLaDiAtOr73 :
Do you guys recommend full self driving? Also does the 15k put you above the tax credit threshold?
Yes, it would put it above the credit threshold. So don't add it when you buy it. After you take delivery, subscribe to it for $200/month, decide if it's worth it to you, and then add it later for $15K.
Jan 14, 2023 09:16 PM
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EliteDealHunterJan 14, 2023 09:16 PM
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The simple truth here is if Tesla was the best car ever and had no competition then Tesla wouldn't be dropping their prices by 20% in order to make sure their cars qualify for the credit. If all the other cars are so bad they wouldn't care about people buying them just to get the credit. Tesla itself is proving that it is scared of competition from other brands. No two ways about it.
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AlexK6706Jan 14, 2023 09:17 PM
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Quote from JamesH9564 :
The quality benchmarks in car industry, such as Lexus, all have 4-year quality. That doesn't make them less reliable than Hyundai. The point is: don't use the length of warranty as the argument.

Similarly, some ICE SUVs have large engines so they regularly beat sports cars nowadays, even legendary sports cars. Again it doesn't mean those sports cars cease to become sports cars. Straight line acceleration doesn't mean as much for a sports car fan as other things - handling/size/weight/etc.
Tesla was found to be one of the most unreliable brands in America, according to Consumer Reports' annual reliability report.
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baller11111Jan 14, 2023 09:19 PM
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Quote from Freshmilk :
at risk of sounding like I'm advocating for Tesla, EVs absolutely promote cleaner air, in a number of ways. the emissions generated even from our dirtiest power source (coal fire power plants) to generate the power necessary to charge a battery that propel a cars are far less toxic than what is generated by an on board combustion engine generating the same power, even a relatively "clean" one. claims to the contrary are what is, in fact, pure myth.

battery disposal is an environmental concern for sure but not one that directly impacts air quality so much. I was speaking only of cleaner air, living in a highly populated area with intensely heavy vehicle traffic, it's a part of daily life here
you forgot about mining all the rare earth minerals used in the battery
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se-riouslyJan 14, 2023 09:20 PM
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Quote from FancyWren413 :
So if someone bought a steak for $16 and ate it, then next month it's on sale for $10 did they lose $6?
The problem with you steak example is that you can't resell it after you've consumed it. A car can be resold after it has been used for a while.
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zipxavierJan 14, 2023 09:21 PM
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Quote from mustangpony :
https://www.sce.com/residential/r...-Rate-Plan [sce.com]

Welcome to California
"Most people in the country pay nothing near that" is what i said. Of course there's outliers
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DanCarJan 14, 2023 09:22 PM
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Quote from baller11111 :
you forgot about mining all the rare earth minerals used in the battery
Tell us which rare earth minerals are used in the battery? None.
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zipxavierJan 14, 2023 09:22 PM
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Quote from tqlla3k :
Oh really? How much is it to supercharge during peak hours in your area?
I've supercharged 4 times in 5 years, who cares about supercharger rates. It's about home electricity rates.
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j4c11Jan 14, 2023 09:24 PM
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Quote from se-riously :
It's actually like worrying about engine/transmission replacement on an ICE car after 5 years or 60K miles (the typical powertrain warranty).
It's really not the same thing. A powertrain is a collection of parts which can be repaired individually. Torque converter goes? You replace that. Transmission goes? You replace that. Engine is worn? You rebuild it. It's a matter of if.

In contrast, loss of battery capacity is a well know unavoidable side effect of every charge cycle, and is not fixable. It's a matter of when.

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anhdongtxJan 14, 2023 09:24 PM
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Quote from AlexK6706 :
It doesn't but this thread is 200 pages long?
I went for lunch, took a nap and you are still here, obsessed with it. That's why.
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