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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 15, 2023 02:43 PM
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gotoee37000Jan 15, 2023 02:43 PM
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Will Tesla auto pilot help reduce night driving stress? I have a 5 year old crv which has no driving assistance and driving in the midnight was very stressful esp. when there are big trucks d ing in the opposite direction.
Jan 15, 2023 02:46 PM
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NotAbot987Jan 15, 2023 02:46 PM
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Quote from kalbert_72 :
Never owned a Tesla but thinking of buying one. Watched a lot of good reviews on YouTube.....came across this one below. Is this just a once off or does it happen more than folks are aware? It shows Tesla stopping for no apparent reason on fast lane on highway and causing a pileup.

https://youtu.be/0LTecQHRtXw



Looks like it was a driver error. See this follow-up article: https://www.ktvu.com/news/tesla-f...idge-crash
Jan 15, 2023 02:46 PM
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ikonoklastJan 15, 2023 02:46 PM
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Quote from vndragonslayer :
how? nobody forced u to buy anything.. do ice automaker give recent buyers refund when they roll out promotions like cash back and rebate 1-3 weeks after you buy your car?
Did you buy a Tesla in 2022? If not, then you might not understand paying $10k+ more for the SAME product. I didn't buy a Tesla but that doesn't mean I can't empathize with those who did in 2022. I didn't say Tesla should refund their 2022 customers, shit happens, life is unfair etc.

My problem is Musk's and Tesla's business manners which is overpromise/underdeliver and sometimes never deliver. FSD, robotaxi, endless delays in his promises, on and on and on. That's just Tesla and not his ridiculous claims with his other companies. Dude is a borderline conman backed by a real company like Tesla that gives him credibility. I really don't see how people are blind to these things unless they are in a cult.

I know I know, it doesn't matter what I think about his manners.
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Jan 15, 2023 02:47 PM
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JellyBellyMDJan 15, 2023 02:47 PM
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Quote from Pga :
Lol you are making things up as you go chief. My garage has it's own lift and for past two decades the only one that work on my cars is me. And I have yet to buy a brand new car.

I can make my own maintenance internals too:

-Tesla needs new battery every 60k
-Tesla needs new heat pump every 100k
-Tesla needs cooling system flush every 20k

You replace those if you are not a fool
Eat some more crow Chief!

BMW RECOMMENDED MAINTENANCE SERVICES
Certain BMW maintenance intervals will vary in frequency depending on your model and on how you drive, so you should always check your owner's manual to be certain. Here's what you can expect:

BMW 10,000-MILE MAINTENANCE
Replace engine oil, oil filter, and coolant
Repeat every 10,000 miles
BMW 20,000-MILE MAINTENANCE
Inspect and replace fuel filters
Repeat every 20,000 miles
BMW 30,000-MILE MAINTENANCE
Replace brake fluid
After first replacement, brake fluid can be replaced at 60,000 mile intervals
If manual transmission: replace transmission fluid every 30,000 miles
BMW 60,000-MILE MAINTENANCE
Replace engine air filter and spark plugs
Inspect and replace brake pads and brake rotors as necessary
Repeat every 60,000 miles
If you have an automatic transmission, replace transmission fluid every 60,000 miles
BMW 90,000-MILE MAINTENANCE
Replace timing belt and hoses
Repeat every 90,000 miles
BMW MAINTENANCE AFTER 90,000 MILES
Continue to schedule BMW preventative maintenance every 5,000 miles
Follow BMW maintenance intervals as listed above
Jan 15, 2023 02:52 PM
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RoyGeeBivJan 15, 2023 02:52 PM
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Quote from mobilefan :
I have checked with more than 10 friends who switched to Tesla and have clean records. They echo the same. I drive a 2021 5 Series and a highlander & I pay around 800$ for 6 months for both the cars. When I got the insurance quote for Model S, they gave me 3.2K just for that car.
You "checked with more than ten friends"? OK, well we are not friends but my insurance went up from 93/mo for a 2015 Ford Fusion to 113/mo for a 2022 F-150 Lightning (Lariat). 500/ded 250/250 (StateFarm). Ima put your post in the "cool story" category.
BTW squeaky clean record, I just live in a state with sky high insurance rates due to being in top ten for DUI and uninsured motorists... all around crappy drivers. (CO)
Last edited by RoyGeeBiv January 15, 2023 at 07:58 AM.
Jan 15, 2023 02:53 PM
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rrc06Jan 15, 2023 02:53 PM
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Quote from mwiggin87 :
You'd have to have the mom register it in the moms name, then transfer/sell/gift it to your wife later. The mom would get the credit and have to give you the cash.
Yeah figured all that. Still not a bad way to go if she is cool with it
Jan 15, 2023 02:54 PM
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rrc06Jan 15, 2023 02:54 PM
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Quote from Carey9314 :
Why would you pay that much money for a death trap? I guess maybe you're suicidal? Weird
Bullshit.

Tesla makes the safest mass market car on the planet in a crash. just look at the guy who tried to kill his family in California in a model y off that cliff. rescuers normally expect to find people dead there
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Jan 15, 2023 02:55 PM
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rrc06Jan 15, 2023 02:55 PM
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Quote from JellyBellyMD :
Eat some more crow Chief!

BMW RECOMMENDED MAINTENANCE SERVICES
Certain BMW maintenance intervals will vary in frequency depending on your model and on how you drive, so you should always check your owner's manual to be certain. Here's what you can expect:

BMW 10,000-MILE MAINTENANCE
Replace engine oil, oil filter, and coolant
Repeat every 10,000 miles
BMW 20,000-MILE MAINTENANCE
Inspect and replace fuel filters
Repeat every 20,000 miles
BMW 30,000-MILE MAINTENANCE
Replace brake fluid
After first replacement, brake fluid can be replaced at 60,000 mile intervals
If manual transmission: replace transmission fluid every 30,000 miles
BMW 60,000-MILE MAINTENANCE
Replace engine air filter and spark plugs
Inspect and replace brake pads and brake rotors as necessary
Repeat every 60,000 miles
If you have an automatic transmission, replace transmission fluid every 60,000 miles
BMW 90,000-MILE MAINTENANCE
Replace timing belt and hoses
Repeat every 90,000 miles
BMW MAINTENANCE AFTER 90,000 MILES
Continue to schedule BMW preventative maintenance every 5,000 miles
Follow BMW maintenance intervals as listed above
Tesla got rid of recommended annual maintenance years ago

Meanwhile you can count on a Mercedes-Benz dealership to rape you with service A and B charges regularly

https://www.greencarreports.com/n...aintenance
Jan 15, 2023 02:59 PM
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ikonoklastJan 15, 2023 02:59 PM
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Quote from NotAbot987 :
Looks like it was a driver error. See this follow-up article: https://www.ktvu.com/news/tesla-f...idge-crash
Where does it say in the article that "it was a driver error"?

I see this: "The crash has raised questions about the technology and the driver's role in the incident. Several Tesla owners and experts suggest human error may be a factor, amid a federal investigation."

Investigations take time so to say this or that is the definite cause is premature.

I have experienced Tesla's well-known phantom braking while using their autopilot. It is unnerving when the vehicle suddenly slows down for no reason.

I don't think Tesla or Musk take criticism very well so they will continue to blame the driver even when their self-proclaimed FULL SELF DRIVING doesn't work as the name suggests. They continue to overstate the car's ability while charging $15k for its "phantom" ability. It'd be false advertising if it was any other company.
Last edited by ikonoklast January 15, 2023 at 08:01 AM.
Jan 15, 2023 03:03 PM
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JonasA7275Jan 15, 2023 03:03 PM
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Government continues to piss away our tax money to push their nonsense ideology of saving the planet by driving EVs. How generous of them.
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PgaJan 15, 2023 03:04 PM
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Quote from JellyBellyMD :
Eat some more crow Chief!

BMW RECOMMENDED MAINTENANCE SERVICES
Certain BMW maintenance intervals will vary in frequency depending on your model and on how you drive, so you should always check your owner's manual to be certain. Here's what you can expect:

BMW 10,000-MILE MAINTENANCE
Replace engine oil, oil filter, and coolant
Repeat every 10,000 miles
BMW 20,000-MILE MAINTENANCE
Inspect and replace fuel filters
Repeat every 20,000 miles
BMW 30,000-MILE MAINTENANCE
Replace brake fluid
After first replacement, brake fluid can be replaced at 60,000 mile intervals
If manual transmission: replace transmission fluid every 30,000 miles
BMW 60,000-MILE MAINTENANCE
Replace engine air filter and spark plugs
Inspect and replace brake pads and brake rotors as necessary
Repeat every 60,000 miles
If you have an automatic transmission, replace transmission fluid every 60,000 miles
BMW 90,000-MILE MAINTENANCE
Replace timing belt and hoses
Repeat every 90,000 miles
BMW MAINTENANCE AFTER 90,000 MILES
Continue to schedule BMW preventative maintenance every 5,000 miles
Follow BMW maintenance intervals as listed above
your list is shit....here's the actual truth:

https://pictures.dealer.com/h/hen...32723x.jpg


You list is so shitty that it recommends timing belt change at 90k......while all BMW engines use only timing chains which do not require service....
Last edited by Pga January 15, 2023 at 08:13 AM.
Jan 15, 2023 03:04 PM
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AlexK6706Jan 15, 2023 03:04 PM
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Excuse my ignorance my dear super car drivers, but what's AWD fluid? Is this a new invention of British scientists?
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Jan 15, 2023 03:07 PM
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PgaJan 15, 2023 03:07 PM
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Quote from rrc06 :
Tesla got rid of recommended annual maintenance years ago

Meanwhile you can count on a Mercedes-Benz dealership to rape you with service A and B charges regularly

https://www.greencarreports.com/n...aintenance
yeah lol when there's very few service stations around to service the volume of vehicles you are selling, you probably don't want all those cars be parking the parking lots for preventive annual check ups
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PurpleRain77Jan 15, 2023 03:09 PM
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My est delivery date got updated to Jan25th from March in Dallas TX

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Jan 15, 2023 03:09 PM
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ikonoklastJan 15, 2023 03:09 PM
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Quote from AlexK6706 :
Excuse my ignorance my dear super car drivers, but what's AWD fluid? Is this a new invention of British scientists?
All-Wheel-Drive. It's the differential fluid that typically needs to be changed at 30k miles, YMMV. AWD has an extra differential to drive the 2nd set of wheels. Typical automatic FWD cars only need transmission fluid flush. AWD cars need both transmission fluid flush and differential fluid flush.

I left out many other scenarios like RWD, 4WD and manual transmission variations.

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