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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 17, 2023 12:04 AM
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mitchfloridaJan 17, 2023 12:04 AM
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Quote :
SamS

He bought it in December'22. Federal tax incentives started 1/1/23.
It wasn't a secret that the new Federal tax rebates were starting on January 1st. Why anyone bought before that is a bit of a mystery.
Jan 17, 2023 12:08 AM
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vndragonslayerJan 17, 2023 12:08 AM
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Quote from mitchflorida :
It wasn't a secret that the new Federal tax rebates were starting on January 1st. Why anyone bought before that is a bit of a mystery.
the blanket battery requirement werent enforced from jan-march.. elon didn't reduced tesla until a few days into jan

hence why some are mad they missed out on the lowered pricing+tax credit .. despite having some 3500/7500 savings in dec..

but if they bought it in dec.. they were rich enough to do it.
Jan 17, 2023 12:16 AM
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94c107ea-869c-45a5-becd-c6b552Jan 17, 2023 12:16 AM
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Quote from AlexK6706 :
If you need a steering wheel you should not be on the road.
Will you just talk more about your Porsche? it breaks up the monotony of the near constant back and forth on tax credit.
Jan 17, 2023 12:17 AM
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dealhunt_101Jan 17, 2023 12:17 AM
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Quote from fmcfad01 :
Everyone is mixing up language. Yes, you owe your tax liability, but people are using owe in the context of, after you prepare your return, do you need to write a check (owe) or will you get a return. It has nothing to do with the results of your return. It has to do with how much you made, your tax bracket %, and some other factors. If you made enough to owe at least $7500 in federal tax liability, you get the credit.

Good explanation, and that has been explained several times over by some. Not that difficult to understand, honestly, if one really wants to read, focus and understand it right.
Jan 17, 2023 12:32 AM
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AlexK6706Jan 17, 2023 12:32 AM
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Don't forget to sweeten the deal by buying $5000 of paper ibonds.
Jan 17, 2023 12:36 AM
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vndragonslayerJan 17, 2023 12:36 AM
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Quote from AlexK6706 :
Don't forget to sweeten the deal by buying $5000 of paper ibonds.
rubbish.. why drive a porsche when u can walk.. by buy bonds when u can barter with cavemens
Jan 17, 2023 12:41 AM
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AlexK6706Jan 17, 2023 12:41 AM
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Quote from vndragonslayer :
rubbish.. why drive a porsche when u can walk.. by buy bonds when u can barter with cavemens
Buddy, have you ever been to a country with public transportation? I drive a Porsche not because I want to, but because there are literally no other options in the US.

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Jan 17, 2023 12:43 AM
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vndragonslayerJan 17, 2023 12:43 AM
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Buddy, have you ever been to a country with public transportation? I drive a Porsche not because I want to, but because there are literally no other options in the US.
doesnt matter. driving a porsche is bad for the environment.. they have shitty boomer interior and nickel and dime you on every option. they're slower on the drag strip vs a cheap tesla 3 p model.. cheaper cars like miata/mr2 run circles around them on the curves..

walk is free, environmentally friendly and u don't get taxed at the pump for walking and zero maintenance cost. no tires to replace or oil to check on. can use in all weather condition.

only an idiot will drive a porsche when things that are better are for free.
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Jan 17, 2023 12:44 AM
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DaVinciBJan 17, 2023 12:44 AM
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Apparently the tax credit will be there for many years. The crazy auto market in last 2 years just get tamed a little bit, while still being crazy. Many new electric vehicles are going to follow. Inflation just got tiny bit better. Why the hurry folks? The bigger party has yet to begin.
Jan 17, 2023 12:47 AM
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vndragonslayerJan 17, 2023 12:47 AM
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Quote from DaVinciB :
Apparently the tax credit will be there for many years. The crazy auto market in last 2 years just get tamed a little bit, while still being crazy. Many new electric vehicles are going to follow. Inflation just got tiny bit better. Why the hurry folks? The bigger party has yet to begin.
tax credit will be here for long.. qualifying it is not.. jan-march.. u have a blanket tax credit if u meet irs income req.. post march.. cars will have to meet battery requirements and blah blah...
Jan 17, 2023 12:56 AM
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smachineJan 17, 2023 12:56 AM
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Quote from mitchflorida :
It wasn't a secret that the new Federal tax rebates were starting on January 1st. Why anyone bought before that is a bit of a mystery.
If someone single had AGI over $150k or married over $300k they would be excluded off the new $7500 credit. I'd suspect many people buying $50k+ cars probably fell into that category. The older federal rebate that Tesla phased out of in 2019 had no income limits.
Jan 17, 2023 12:56 AM
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KensicJan 17, 2023 12:56 AM
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Quote from DaVinciB :
Apparently the tax credit will be there for many years. The crazy auto market in last 2 years just get tamed a little bit, while still being crazy. Many new electric vehicles are going to follow. Inflation just got tiny bit better. Why the hurry folks? The bigger party has yet to begin.
definitely agree. if someone is absoluately in need of a car in the next 3 months. yea consider a tesla if its in your budget. but if your current car could last 2-3 more years, just wait and chill and let the price drop!
Jan 17, 2023 12:57 AM
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DaVinciBJan 17, 2023 12:57 AM
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Quote from vndragonslayer :
tax credit will be here for long.. qualifying it is not.. jan-march.. u have a blanket tax credit if u meet irs income req.. post march.. cars will have to meet battery requirements and blah blah...
But aren't most if not all Tesla batteries made in us already? Anything major missed here?
Jan 17, 2023 01:01 AM
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pugxiwawaJan 17, 2023 01:01 AM
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Quote from DaVinciB :
But aren't most if not all Tesla batteries made in us already? Anything major missed here?
It's not just about where battery is made, also where the % components are sourced. As of now majority part of battery is sourced from china, so depending on IRS where they think the cut off % is. It's extremely vague at this point, hence the uncertainty and the certainty that most likely past of $3750 rebate requirement won't be met post March.

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grxnxdosJan 17, 2023 01:08 AM
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How do tax credits and CVRP work when cosigners are involved?

Context: I have a family member looking to purchase a MY. I'll be cosigning for them. They qualify for CVRP but will not be able to max out the tax credits. I don't qualify for CVRP but could max out the tax credits. If I cosign the transaction, will they be able to apply for CVRP and leave me off the application since we aren't a household? And also, does the new tax credit program allow me to claim the credits as cosigner?

Thank in advance. Just looking to maximize incentives.

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