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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 17, 2023 01:46 PM
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GreenIdea3316Jan 17, 2023 01:46 PM
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These are essentially throw away cars. The price is going to crater to create any real demand for this trash. I will stick with my Highlander until they sell Tesla's for 1/2 as much as the Highlander which is way more reliable better vehicle.
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Jan 17, 2023 01:48 PM
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NeatHarrier765Jan 17, 2023 01:48 PM
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Quote from MurraytheDemonSkull :
You may not be able to claim the full amount
I ask because ordering now, there is no guarantee that one would get deliveries by March 31st.
Jan 17, 2023 01:50 PM
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CycloneFWJan 17, 2023 01:50 PM
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Quote from Tnyc :
Thanks for the comprehensive reply! I'm sure it helps many people who are considering going EV. So would you do it again and buy another EV knowing what you know now?
It's anecdotal, but my Model S has had significantly better battery performance than that poster's Y and my S lived years of its life in Ithaca, NY. Btw, after 10 years and 120k miles, it still gets 250 miles on a full charge (validated this weekend) from its original 265 miles. YMMV though.
Jan 17, 2023 01:55 PM
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ZurgJan 17, 2023 01:55 PM
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Quote from NeatHarrier765 :
I ask because ordering now, there is no guarantee that one would get deliveries by March 31st.
Well, I am not sure where Tesla is getting the information about March of 2023 because on IRS website there is no mention of it.
https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after
Jan 17, 2023 01:58 PM
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SlickEonakJan 17, 2023 01:58 PM
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Driving Tesla is like driving with MAGA flag.
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Jan 17, 2023 02:03 PM
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fmcfad01Jan 17, 2023 02:03 PM
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Quote from Zurg :
Well, I am not sure where Tesla is getting the information about March of 2023 because on IRS website there is no mention of it.
https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after [irs.gov]
Whatever org in the government is putting out the regulations on the battery composition part of the rebate said they will release that guidance around March, which is when the old rule ($7500 off) would go away, and the new rule ($3750 + $3750) would get phased in. This could result in teslas getting half the rebate. Gov didn't figure this out in time, so they simply carried foreard the old policy until they define the new one. The discussion here is - take advantage of the old policy while you can.
Jan 17, 2023 02:04 PM
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LAST_EXITJan 17, 2023 02:04 PM
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Quote from Zurg :
Well, I am not sure where Tesla is getting the information about March of 2023 because on IRS website there is no mention of it.
https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after
You expect IRS to be transparent?

https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/...y-gm-tesla

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Jan 17, 2023 02:05 PM
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fmcfad01Jan 17, 2023 02:05 PM
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Quote from EliteDealHunter :
You can't claim the credit until you file your 2023 taxes in 2024. At that time if either your 2023 or 2022 MAGI is below the cap then you qualify for the credit.

You can't claim a tax credit on your 2022 taxes for something that didn't occur until 2023 (you buying the car).
This is wrong, the IRS website says you can use the current year or the year prior.
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Jan 17, 2023 02:07 PM
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LovelyRain4135Jan 17, 2023 02:07 PM
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Quote from GreenIdea3316 :
These are essentially throw away cars. The price is going to crater to create any real demand for this trash. I will stick with my Highlander until they sell Tesla's for 1/2 as much as the Highlander which is way more reliable better vehicle.
Flip phones were reliable as well. It's okay to stay in the dinosaur age but better if society make advancements
Jan 17, 2023 02:10 PM
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LovelyRain4135Jan 17, 2023 02:10 PM
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With the $7,500 California rebate + $7,500 federal tax credit, Model Y or 3 becomes a no Brainer.
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Jan 17, 2023 02:13 PM
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mojo-jojo26Jan 17, 2023 02:13 PM
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Quote from FancyMagic4349 :
What proof do you have to show as a NJ resident.
NJ license for registration.
If bought online, add registration details and $4K or $2K will be deducted right away from total.

https://chargeup.njcleanenergy.co...guidelines
Jan 17, 2023 02:22 PM
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bradmanJan 17, 2023 02:22 PM
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Quote from fmcfad01 :
This is wrong, the IRS website says you can use the current year or the year prior.
You can use the current year or prior year AGI for income qualification. However, you can claim the credit on the year when your take delivery of the vehicle. If your delivery is in 2023, you can claim the credit in 2023 taxes when you file them in 2024 April.
Jan 17, 2023 02:25 PM
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ZurgJan 17, 2023 02:25 PM
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Quote from fmcfad01 :
This is wrong, the IRS website says you can use the current year or the year prior.
It says you can use 2022 for your income qualification, NOT a credit deduction for 2022.
Very big difference.... and a guaranteed audit.
Jan 17, 2023 02:27 PM
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JunkeyJan 17, 2023 02:27 PM
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Quote from Nkapeo :
Can we do down payment for Tesla cars using one or more credit cards ? Looking to see if I can get some extra discounts using credit card bonus offers /points
The answer is no . Credit card payment is limited to just the initial $250 fee

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Jan 17, 2023 02:41 PM
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freeforlifeJan 17, 2023 02:41 PM
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Quote from EliteDealHunter :
You can't claim the credit until you file your 2023 taxes in 2024. At that time if either your 2023 or 2022 MAGI is below the cap then you qualify for the credit.

You can't claim a tax credit on your 2022 taxes for something that didn't occur until 2023 (you buying the car).
Thank you for clarification. Makes much more sense.

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