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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 17, 2023 02:41 PM
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mojo-jojo26Jan 17, 2023 02:41 PM
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Quote from dealhunt_101 :
I've added my NJ address to the registration but the 2k credit is not reflected just yet. But the order subtotal, excluding destination & order fee, is 53,990 so it should qualify for NJ credit.
Yes, it should after you update your registration details.
I'm sure you checked it the correct place but just in case, go to "Financing" option and select "Cash" to see the details.
You always can select other options after verifying rebate.
Hope this helps.
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dynamiteJan 17, 2023 02:43 PM
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Quote from GreenIdea3316 :
These are essentially throw away cars. The price is going to crater to create any real demand for this trash. I will stick with my Highlander until they sell Tesla's for 1/2 as much as the Highlander which is way more reliable better vehicle.
That is the problem with EVs currently. The battery replacement cost becomes more than the value of the car after the warranty on the battery expires. After year 8 the model 3 has zero value on the resale market.

No doubt the future of EVs will be purchasing the car body outright but leasing the battery pack for a monthly fee. This will make the new price more palatable (about $10k less than current prices), take care of the plunging depreciation issue, and help the manufacturers lock customers into their brand by offering cheaper monthly fees in exchange for longer monthly contacts.
Jan 17, 2023 02:44 PM
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CheapSkateRUsJan 17, 2023 02:44 PM
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Put the tax rebate savings in a CD and use that money for the 25k battery replacement in five years you folks
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Jan 17, 2023 02:46 PM
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OliveRose694Jan 17, 2023 02:46 PM
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Anyone know if Tesla will pass the 7.5k incentive on the leases they do? Would be great if they did as Audi, Mercedes, Jeep do.
Jan 17, 2023 02:46 PM
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AViciousTurtleJan 17, 2023 02:46 PM
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Quote from woomer051 :
Ideas so great they need subsidized
Yeah cuz they don't give any money to big oil lol
Jan 17, 2023 02:59 PM
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NeatOstrich900Jan 17, 2023 02:59 PM
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Quote from dynamite :
That is the problem with EVs currently. The battery replacement cost becomes more than the value of the car after the warranty on the battery expires. After year 8 the model 3 has zero value on the resale market.

No doubt the future of EVs will be purchasing the car body outright but leasing the battery pack for a monthly fee. This will make the new price more palatable (about $10k less than current prices), take care of the plunging depreciation issue, and help the manufacturers lock customers into their brand by offering cheaper monthly fees in exchange for longer monthly contacts.
The new batteries are rated 500k-600k miles. There's all new battery tech compared to the 12 year old model S which a majority are holding up to well over 200k miles.
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dvdrdiscsJan 17, 2023 02:59 PM
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Quote from LovelyRain4135 :
With the $7,500 California rebate + $7,500 federal tax credit, Model Y or 3 becomes a no Brainer.
CA has a 7,500 rebate program?
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PurpleTerrier192Jan 17, 2023 03:01 PM
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Quote from LovelyRain4135 :
With the $7,500 California rebate + $7,500 federal tax credit, Model Y or 3 becomes a no Brainer.
What $7500 CA rebate?

I think he is talking about the CVRP program which has changed to $7500 for the 2023 year, assuming you quailify.

https://cleanvehiclerebate.org/en...s-change-0
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dvdrdiscsJan 17, 2023 03:08 PM
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Quote from PurpleTerrier192 :
What $7500 CA rebate?
I think I saw what he is referring to. CA does have a $7,500 ev rebate but you're likely not going to see a penny. First the price cap seems to place the Y out of eligibility. $45k limit. Second, even if it dies qualify, you have to be making at most 4 times the federal poverty line. For a single person, that's $14 x 4. If you're making $56k/yr you are likely not buying a $52k car.
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britdudeJan 17, 2023 03:09 PM
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The answer is no . Credit card payment is limited to just the initial $250 fee
You can use the Bilt card for payments
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LovelyRain4135Jan 17, 2023 03:12 PM
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Quote from dvdrdiscs :
I think I saw what he is referring to. CA does have a $7,500 ev rebate but you're likely not going to see a penny. First the price cap seems to place the Y out of eligibility. $45k limit. Second, even if it dies qualify, you have to be making at most 4 times the federal poverty line. For a single person, that's $14 x 4. If you're making $56k/yr you are likely not buying a $52k car.
I just ask my dad to use his name to buy the car. He is retired so income eligible. And I just give him cash to pay it off.
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LovelyRain4135Jan 17, 2023 03:13 PM
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Quote from dvdrdiscs :
I think I saw what he is referring to. CA does have a $7,500 ev rebate but you're likely not going to see a penny. First the price cap seems to place the Y out of eligibility. $45k limit. Second, even if it dies qualify, you have to be making at most 4 times the federal poverty line. For a single person, that's $14 x 4. If you're making $56k/yr you are likely not buying a $52k car.
SUV has 60k limit so the model Y is eligible
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BzchanJan 17, 2023 03:16 PM
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Unless you have information that's not public knowledge yet, you won't be seeing that $7500 with a Tesla. They are no longer listed as a participating manufacturer, they lost that when they raised their prices. And if it's like other manufacturers once you are gone, you don't get back on the list of eligible vehicles even if you meet the requirements.
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Quote from LovelyRain4135 :
I just ask my dad to use his name to buy the car. He is retired so income eligible. And I just give him cash to pay it off.
Does he have $7,500 in tax liability?

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