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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 18, 2023 04:52 AM
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vndragonslayerJan 18, 2023 04:52 AM
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Quote from ggapropros :
Was born here. Makes no sense to move somewhere far away and then buy a tesla and spend a bunch of time driving to be around my social circle.

I plan on moving jobs at end of year to somewhere with an office so i can stop paying so much money for an extra bedroom for a home office that i have to pay for with my post tax dollars. I also think working remotely for my role specifically slows down velocity significantly because stakeholders are very hard to get a hold of compared to when I was in office. They typically are running their kids around and block off large chunks of their calendar when they previously would have been at the office
so u make money money net than those in rural area with same job.. i think ur rich enough to do without $7500 tax credit.. or u can read books and get smarter.. lower your tax obligations.. roll over ira.. donate.. gift family money, sell buy high sell low tesla stocks.. so u can get $7500 credit
Jan 18, 2023 04:53 AM
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vndragonslayerJan 18, 2023 04:53 AM
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Quote from mintblue3411 :
What is mpg of Tesla? I own an ev before and charge at home and found electric cost almost same as 30mpg car
ever try not charging at max peak expensive rate hours? like dead hours 12am -7am?
Jan 18, 2023 04:55 AM
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vndragonslayerJan 18, 2023 04:55 AM
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Quote from honestabe :
Out of curiosity. Anyone else excited about test driving the resigned Prius?. Not exactly apples to apples but certainly am interesting alternative.
theyre still ugly.. look at the entire shape n not just the front.. still looks like a prius .. drives like a prius.. its a tin can on wheel.. boring .. if i wanted to save on gas.. i'd walk instead for free.

only idiot would pay 30-35k on marked up priuses
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Jan 18, 2023 05:00 AM
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grxnxdosJan 18, 2023 05:00 AM
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Quote from rgadowski :
actually electric charging networks are everywhere. the car directs you through them to your destination. stops are great for getting something to eat, stretching and/or shopping. After 342k miles on my current MS i can say i have not regretted my choice at all. this does not include the 180k plus miles i put on my first MS.
Curious what your battery's health is like on your MS. Any noteworthy issues?
Jan 18, 2023 05:03 AM
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pugxiwawaJan 18, 2023 05:03 AM
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Quote from sillar68 :
Besides it being an EV, what are the top 5 things that impress you about your model Y?
Stupidly fast acceleration, 1-pedal driving, quiet, no maintenance, advance technology in autopilot and FSD, no key, sentry mode, dog mode, spacious interior, lots of space in sub trunk, perfect family car, awesome charging network, and most importantly - SAFETY. This is the safest car on the road today and I won't hesitate having my family in it.
Jan 18, 2023 05:07 AM
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vndragonslayerJan 18, 2023 05:07 AM
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Quote from pugxiwawa :
Stupidly fast acceleration, 1-pedal driving, quiet, no maintenance, advance technology in autopilot and FSD, no key, sentry mode, dog mode, spacious interior, lots of space in sub trunk, perfect family car, awesome charging network, and most importantly - SAFETY. This is the safest car on the road today and I won't hesitate having my family in it.
yes very safe.. u can drive off a cliff and survive with entire family Smilie im very impressed with this feature
Jan 18, 2023 05:08 AM
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NiceGuyFinishLastJan 18, 2023 05:08 AM
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Quote from vndragonslayer :
yes very safe.. u can drive off a cliff and survive with entire family Smilie im very impressed with this feature
Protects you and your family from yourself apparently

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Jan 18, 2023 05:09 AM
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pisceanJan 18, 2023 05:09 AM
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Quote from pugxiwawa :
Stupidly fast acceleration, 1-pedal driving, quiet, no maintenance, advance technology in autopilot and FSD, no key, sentry mode, dog mode, spacious interior, lots of space in sub trunk, perfect family car, awesome charging network, and most importantly - SAFETY. This is the safest car on the road today and I won't hesitate having my family in it.
The 1-pedal driving gives me head rush. If someone has motion sickness they will hate it.
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Jan 18, 2023 05:10 AM
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pugxiwawaJan 18, 2023 05:10 AM
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Quote from piscean :
The 1-pedal driving gives me head rush. If someone has motion sickness they will hate it.
that's why I switched to chill mode when there are passengers. It's much more smooth. Then I switch back to sports mode and go nuts when I'm on my own.

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I also learn how to let go pedal at a more gentle rate to smooth out regen. You get used to it quickly. Can't go back to use brake in ice car anymore!
Last edited by pugxiwawa January 17, 2023 at 10:14 PM.
Jan 18, 2023 05:11 AM
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CycloneFWJan 18, 2023 05:11 AM
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Quote from grxnxdos :
Curious what your battery's health is like on your MS. Any noteworthy issues?
My S is older than the guy's you quoted, but my miles are significantly less. Mine is 10 years old with 120k miles. I get 250 miles out of the original 265 miles on a 100% charge. I'm happy with that level of degradation and have had no issues.
Jan 18, 2023 05:17 AM
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pisceanJan 18, 2023 05:17 AM
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Quote from CycloneFW :
My S is older than the guy's you quoted, but my miles are significantly less. Mine is 10 years old with 120k miles. I get 250 miles out of the original 265 miles on a 100% charge. I'm happy with that level of degradation and have had no issues.
How percentage of battery Healy is remaining ? 70-80 pc ? Usually batteries degrade with time and usage
Jan 18, 2023 05:18 AM
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ggaproprosJan 18, 2023 05:18 AM
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Quote from vndragonslayer :
so u make money money net than those in rural area with same job.. i think ur rich enough to do without $7500 tax credit.. or u can read books and get smarter.. lower your tax obligations.. roll over ira.. donate.. gift family money, sell buy high sell low tesla stocks.. so u can get $7500 credit
Rent is dirt cheap in rural areas because no one wants to live there. Im not a hermit though. Net pay after rent is probably a lot higher. I just checked and middle of nowhere CA you can get a $1200 apartment thats same size as mine, so i could make $50000 less per year and see the same amount of money hit my bank account after rent because rent is post-tax.

Also you seem to have no idea what youre talking about when lowering AGI
-Rollover 401k into a traditional IRA keeps its tax deferred status.
-You dont understand how gifting works at all, you cant write off gift to family members.
-You also dont understand how stocks work at all, a capital gains loss on stocks has nothing to do with your w-2 income. They are completely separate.
-Donating $20k isnt in the cards, the tech recession means I now have to keep lots of money in emergency fund in case companies decide to lay off tens of thousands of people. Unemployment is capped at far beneath the rent for a 1 bedroom with an office. Youre not allowed to exit a lease in california if you lose your job, so youre on the hook for all 12 months.
Last edited by ggapropros January 17, 2023 at 10:23 PM.
Jan 18, 2023 05:22 AM
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CycloneFWJan 18, 2023 05:22 AM
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Quote from piscean :
How percentage of battery Healy is remaining ? 70-80 pc ? Usually batteries degrade with time and usage
94% of its original capacity at a full charge now after 10 years and 120k miles
Jan 18, 2023 05:22 AM
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PuzzleFighterJan 18, 2023 05:22 AM
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Damnably hideous car tho
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Jan 18, 2023 05:25 AM
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BrooklyniteJan 18, 2023 05:25 AM
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Quote from rgadowski :
about 14 cents per kWh on average, but some areas are much more expensive. the model 3 can get 4-4.5 miles for kWh.

your local utility most likely has a deal for EV charging overnight like national grid does in Upstate NY. The plan doubles connection fee to $35 monthly but drops fee from 14 cents to around 6 cents per kWh
Those are ridiculously cheap prices. Here in SoCal we pay 54c/Kw for 4pm-9pm and 0.27c/Kw all other times even midnight.

So for me comparing to 23mpg gas car Tesla runs like getting gas at $2.50/gallon.

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