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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 18, 2023 12:13 PM
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TheKingofDealsJan 18, 2023 12:13 PM
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Quote from thinh4u2 :
Anyone know the going rate to get the chargers installed where you live?

I live near Raleigh NC, and I think it's like $1100-1500 for the Wall charger installation here.

I wonder how much a 240v installation is, to use the mobile instead and save some money.
Hello neighbor! I had my builder install 2 of 240V NEMA 14-50 receptacles in my garage 5 years ago when building my house. I assumed I would have 1 maybe 2 electrical vehicles at some point. My advice would be reach out to few electricians to get quote.
You can do the wall charger + hardwired or Mobile connector + 240V NEMA 14-50
The Mobile connector route charges slightly slower but if your charging over night does not make a difference. 30 miles an hour vs 37 hr if I remember correctly.
https://www.tesla.com/support/find-electrician
Jan 18, 2023 12:21 PM
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BroSanJan 18, 2023 12:21 PM
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Hello hello neighbors, another Raleigh area preorder here... Yes, I will need to have one installed as well...
Jan 18, 2023 12:41 PM
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KaatuPaadiJan 18, 2023 12:41 PM
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Quote from vndragonslayer :
theres also ice fanbois delusional that a 23 civic at 30k or 40k rav is better than a tesla 3 at 37k
When it come to tech absolutely Tesla beats in every single item. When it comes to size, overall cost, convenience, still a long way to go for EVs to become competitive.. For those who charge in public chargers, the cost is almost same as gas... The biggest issues why people don't buys is Cost, convenience and Size... These EVs are tiny for their 1-1 comparison..
Jan 18, 2023 12:49 PM
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pugxiwawaJan 18, 2023 12:49 PM
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Quote from topcho :
Nothing wrong about this. You get $7,500 on top of what you are OWED.
No, that's wrong. The only reason government would owe you money is you already prepay tax to government, and it just returns the portion that you overpay. That has nothing to do with your tax liability.

For example:
You make 75k a year, assume federal tax is 10%. You owe government 7500 at the end of year. Most people choose to have withholding throughout the year, assume you pay government 7500/12= 625 per month, at the end of year, you already pay 7500 in tax, therefore, refund is $0 because you already pay what you owe.

IF you choose to pay government double of $625, by mistake or whatnot, at the end of year you would've paid $15000 to government. But you only owe $7500, so you file tax return and government now owes you $7500 so you get that back. The $7500 is not some magic money that government gives you. It's your money but you overpay so they return to you.

If you don't pay government anything throughout the year, you still owe it $7500 at the end of year, so you write a check to IRS when filing return for $7500 + interest.

Now here come EV rebate. if you buy a Tesla and get $7500 rebate, it reduces the amount you owe by $7500 REGARDLESS what you choice to do in the 3 scenario above. So now because of rebate you owe government $0, so whatever you have paid to government throughout the year you will get it back. Government does not give you $7500 on top of what you owe.

Assume you make 50k a year and owe government $5000 at the end of year. Buying a Tesla will reduce that $5000 to $0, but government will not send you another $2500 because you don't owe enough. If you prepay throughout the year you will get $5000 in refund, not $7500.

Hope this is clear.
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blkpelJan 18, 2023 12:51 PM
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Quote from JayC3270 :
I ordered two days ago. Got expected delivery date between jan 22 and feb 19
Was yours custom built or existing inventory?
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MaroonCircle6262
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Jan 18, 2023 12:52 PM
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Quote from thinh4u2 :
Anyone know the going rate to get the chargers installed where you live?

I live near Raleigh NC, and I think it's like $1100-1500 for the Wall charger installation here.

I wonder how much a 240v installation is, to use the mobile instead and save some money.
Bro duke energy is paying for it
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Jan 18, 2023 12:55 PM
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MaroonCircle6262
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Here is the link for raleigh people do research

https://www.duke-energy.com/home/...rep-credit

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Jan 18, 2023 01:01 PM
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topchoJan 18, 2023 01:01 PM
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Quote from pugxiwawa :
No, that's wrong. The only reason government would owe you money is you already prepay tax to government, and it just returns the portion that you overpay. That has nothing to do with your tax liability.

For example:
You make 75k a year, assume federal tax is 10%. You owe government 7500 at the end of year. Most people choose to have withholding throughout the year, assume you pay government 7500/12= 625 per month, at the end of year, you already pay 7500 in tax, therefore, refund is $0 because you already pay what you owe.

IF you choose to pay government double of $625, by mistake or whatnot, at the end of year you would've paid $15000 to government. But you only owe $7500, so you file tax return and government now owes you $7500 so you get that back. The $7500 is not some magic money that government gives you. It's your money but you overpay so they return to you.

If you don't pay government anything throughout the year, you still owe it $7500 at the end of year, so you write a check to IRS when filing return for $7500 + interest.

Now here come EV rebate. if you buy a Tesla and get $7500 rebate, it reduces the amount you owe by $7500 REGARDLESS what you choice to do in the 3 scenario above. So now because of rebate you owe government $0, so whatever you have paid to government throughout the year you will get it back. Government does not give you $7500 on top of what you owe.

Assume you make 50k a year and owe government $5000 at the end of year. Buying a Tesla will reduce that $5000 to $0, but government will not send you another $2500 because you don't owe enough. If you prepay throughout the year you will get $5000 in refund, not $7500.

Hope this is clear.
The scenario above was absolutely righjt and you are not saying nothing that discredits it. If you are owed $10000 on your original tax return, the government will send you $17,500 as long as you have that much liability. That is what he/she said and it is absolutely right.
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If you want a hideous car, check out the Solo EV
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sm1907Jan 18, 2023 01:05 PM
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Quote from BroSan :
Hello hello neighbors, another Raleigh area preorder here... Yes, I will need to have one installed as well...
I got the below estimate in Cary, NC

ESTIMATE

Solutions Electrical LLc
PO Box 3911
Cary, NC 27519

[email protected]
(919) 454-7470
www.Solutionselectrical.net



Estimate details
Estimate no.: 1856
Estimate date: 1/16/23
Expiration date: 2/16/23

Product or service Amount
1. Tesla Car Charger 1 unit × $470.00 $470.00
1-to install a level 3 Tesla Charger about 6 feet away from the panel same wall (EATON CH) we will run a #6-2 romex conductor from the panel
to the location where the charger will be install, please note a cut on the drywall is necessary in order to drill and pull the conductor and we will
install the piece back but we will NOT BE responsible for any patching or painting.
2-customer will supply car charger.
2. Inspection fees 1 unit × $0.00 $0.00
1-if the customer need to get this permitted and extra $140 not included on this total.

Total $470.00
Expiry date 2/16/23
Jan 18, 2023 01:30 PM
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thinh4u2Jan 18, 2023 01:30 PM
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Quote from sm1907 :
I got the below estimate in Cary, NC

ESTIMATE

Solutions Electrical LLc
PO Box 3911
Cary, NC 27519

[email protected]
(919) 454-7470
www.Solutionselectrical.net



Estimate details
Estimate no.: 1856
Estimate date: 1/16/23
Expiration date: 2/16/23

Product or service Amount
1. Tesla Car Charger 1 unit × $470.00 $470.00
1-to install a level 3 Tesla Charger about 6 feet away from the panel same wall (EATON CH) we will run a #6-2 romex conductor from the panel
to the location where the charger will be install, please note a cut on the drywall is necessary in order to drill and pull the conductor and we will
install the piece back but we will NOT BE responsible for any patching or painting.
2-customer will supply car charger.
2. Inspection fees 1 unit × $0.00 $0.00
1-if the customer need to get this permitted and extra $140 not included on this total.

Total $470.00
Expiry date 2/16/23
Hey neighbors, so cool that there's a few of us from Raleigh in here lol.

Wow that's not bad at all. $470 but that includes the wall connector price? I think the wall connector line is $350, that's great!

I do not see this vendor on Tesla find electrician list though. Are you familiar with them? Have you used them before?
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iceage2007Jan 18, 2023 01:30 PM
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The price of the wall charger increased from $350 to $425 already!
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pisceanJan 18, 2023 01:31 PM
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One more gripe of mine with Tesla is build quality apart from cheap interior. Looks like lot of issues with paint, windows not closing entirely and condensation issues for tail lights. Man this car is at most 40k car because of technology lol.
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thinh4u2Jan 18, 2023 01:37 PM
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Bro duke energy is paying for it
Oh nice, but unfortunately I live in Apex so we use Apex energy. I don't think apex does a similar credit Frown

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Jan 18, 2023 01:37 PM
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sm1907Jan 18, 2023 01:37 PM
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Quote from thinh4u2 :
Hey neighbors, so cool that there's a few of us from Raleigh in here lol.

Wow that's not bad at all. $470 but that includes the wall connector price? I think the wall connector line is $350, that's great!

I do not see this vendor on Tesla find electrician list though. Are you familiar with them? Have you used them before?
no, I just did a craigslist and got this quote. Sharing, so some of you can try and let me know?

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