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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 22, 2023 10:09 PM
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Eltoroz00mJan 22, 2023 10:09 PM
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Quote from dohmahmigh :
Appreciate the input! if that's the case, i wonder how would we actually input the number since we're both W2?

Also, anyone has any insights to my 2nd question?
does anyone know if the alternative fuel infrastructure tax credit reimburses the cost of installing a 240V 14-50 outlet for using the mobile connector, but NOT the wall charger?
Tax credit/reimbursement for level 2 charger installations differ from state to state.
Jan 22, 2023 10:09 PM
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7465Jan 22, 2023 10:09 PM
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I placed an order for a model y - long-range - 7 seaters, white, no FSD, and with standard wheels last Thursday, 1-19-2023. How long it takes to get the VIN?
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Jan 22, 2023 10:11 PM
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DealBozJan 22, 2023 10:11 PM
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Quote from MaroonCircle6262 :
It depends if they have in stock or not.. Not exactly sure i dont want to guide you wrong way and miss.. But service should be able to install later. Best will be to talk to CS 😕
Any suggestion to connect with CS, as i would like to remove the Enhanced Auto Pilot from my invoice
Jan 22, 2023 10:12 PM
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Superman007Jan 22, 2023 10:12 PM
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Quote from 7465 :
I placed an order for a model y - long-range - 7 seaters, white, no FSD, and with standard wheels last Thursday, 1-19-2023. How long it takes to get the VIN?
first week
Jan 22, 2023 10:18 PM
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t.i.Jan 22, 2023 10:18 PM
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Quote from CycloneFW :
My 2013 still gets 94% of the original capacity with 250 miles on a full charge vs. the original 265. I'm not concerned about the batteries nor the replacement cost for something 10 years old and still going strong.
The miles shown as oppose to actual mileage decreases with charge cycles. The 250 miles on full charge is probably not getting you 250 actual miles and most likely not even close to it.
But as long as you are happy with the vehicle that's all matters.
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Jan 22, 2023 10:19 PM
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sidewinder33625Jan 22, 2023 10:19 PM
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Quote from stanleychan :
I don't think anything is going to happen, but for those who bought in Q4 2022, this change org petition is getting momentum and media coverage. It doesn't hurt to sign the petition to see if anything will materialized.

"The Change.org petition actually shows pretty reasonable requests. Started by Tesla YouTube host DennisCW, the petition is asking the EV maker to provide those who took delivery of their cars in Q4 2022 free access to Full Self-Driving for one year or free Supercharging miles. Considering that Tesla charges $199 per month for an FSD subscription, the owners' request is quite reasonable. The same is true for free supercharging access.
Both FSD access and free Supercharging would likely not cost Tesla an arm and a leg as the former is simply access to software-based features and the latter is already frequently provided by the company, especially in times of need. Plus, granting the owners' petition would likely give Tesla a lot of positive sentiments from the car-buying public, which is quite valuable for the company as it goes deeper into the mainstream auto market. "

https://www.change.org/p/give-tes...rect=false
so if they had raised the price, is tesla now entitled to the difference? no one forced anyone to buy the car at those prices. it sucks, deal with it and move on rather than be so entitled. besides, those that sold/traded their old cars would have gotten significantly more for it than what it would be worth now.
Jan 22, 2023 10:21 PM
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CycloneFWJan 22, 2023 10:21 PM
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Quote from t.i. :
The miles shown as oppose to actual mileage decreases with charge cycles. The 250 miles on full charge is probably not getting you 250 actual miles and most likely not even close to it.
But as long as you are happy with the vehicle that's all matters.
Considering in December 2022 I drove 247 miles from a full charge and, while I was power limited as I was very low in power, I still had range to go to get home, I'm comfortable with the 250 it put on-screen when I was fully charged.

Now, before others jump on this, most would be very nervous getting this low. I wasn't concerned as I was on my way home and passing plenty of public chargers, so I could always top off if I didn't make it (plus I could call AAA). The key is to watch your power bar. If you get below 40 kW instantaneous power available, the car can shut off at any time. I didn't get that low, but was around 60 kW.

Also to note, on that series of Model S, the EPA Rated Range is for 300 Wh/mi, which I hit regularly. Sometimes I beat it, but those times are rare.

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Jan 22, 2023 10:25 PM
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t.i.Jan 22, 2023 10:25 PM
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Quote from CycloneFW :
Considering in December 2022 I drove 247 miles from a full charge and, while I was power limited as I was very low in power, I still had range to go to get home, I'm comfortable with the 250 it put on-screen when I was fully charged.

Now, before others jump on this, most would be very nervous getting this low. I wasn't concerned as I was on my way home and passing plenty of public chargers, so I could always top off if I didn't make it (plus I could call AAA). The key is to watch your power bar. If you get below 40 kW instantaneous power available, the car can shut off at any time. I didn't get that low, but was around 60 kW.

Also to note, on that series of Model S, the EPA Rated Range is for 300 Wh/mi, which I hit regularly. Sometimes I beat it, but those times are rare.
Wow. That's great.
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Jan 22, 2023 10:27 PM
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Travis64Jan 22, 2023 10:27 PM
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Quote from CycloneFW :
Considering in December 2022 I drove 247 miles from a full charge and, while I was power limited as I was very low in power, I still had range to go to get home, I'm comfortable with the 250 it put on-screen when I was fully charged.

Now, before others jump on this, most would be very nervous getting this low. I wasn't concerned as I was on my way home and passing plenty of public chargers, so I could always top off if I didn't make it (plus I could call AAA). The key is to watch your power bar. If you get below 40 kW instantaneous power available, the car can shut off at any time. I didn't get that low, but was around 60 kW.

Also to note, on that series of Model S, the EPA Rated Range is for 300 Wh/mi, which I hit regularly. Sometimes I beat it, but those times are rare.
Not good to go below 10%
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CycloneFWJan 22, 2023 10:30 PM
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Quote from Travis64 :
Not good to go below 10%
Eh, while yes, it's more along the lines of "don't let it sit under 10%", just like you shouldn't let it sit at 100%. Plus I was heading home, so I would immediately be charging. Keep in mind, I have 120k miles and 10 years on this car. I've gotten to know it's "personality". Many road trips have helped on this.

Now, give me a loaner from Tesla and I'd never trust getting to extremes. I know my pack is balanced and calibrated. I doubt any loaner is.
Jan 22, 2023 10:42 PM
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t.i.Jan 22, 2023 10:42 PM
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Quote from CycloneFW :
Eh, while yes, it's more along the lines of "don't let it sit under 10%", just like you shouldn't let it sit at 100%. Plus I was heading home, so I would immediately be charging. Keep in mind, I have 120k miles and 10 years on this car. I've gotten to know it's "personality". Many road trips have helped on this.

Now, give me a loaner from Tesla and I'd never trust getting to extremes. I know my pack is balanced and calibrated. I doubt any loaner is.
I am interested in getting my pack balanced as well. How do you do that?
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Jan 22, 2023 10:59 PM
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anhdongtxJan 22, 2023 10:59 PM
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Does anybody know if the chargers (mobile or wall) are shipped to your house separately or do you pick that up when you pick up the car?
Jan 22, 2023 11:06 PM
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YouLikeDisciplineJan 22, 2023 11:06 PM
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Quote from sidewinder33625 :
so if they had raised the price, is tesla now entitled to the difference? no one forced anyone to buy the car at those prices. it sucks, deal with it and move on rather than be so entitled. besides, those that sold/traded their old cars would have gotten significantly more for it than what it would be worth now.
This is what's so hilarious about the whole price cut ordeal. In my opinion, these cars were way overpriced to begin with. I didnt see the value in them for the asking price and sat out. Even now, I believe the 3 and Y are still a $6-7k overpriced before any credits. Only now after the price cuts are they coming back down to what they are realistically worth. The same goes for many ICE vehicles on the market...overpriced at MSRP and definitely so after these market adjustments that dealers are applying.

Those that bought at the original price before the cuts, even if a day before- that's totally on you. You felt the price was acceptable at the time of purchase. You felt comfortable that for what the car offers, the features, and name, it checked the boxes..so quit whining. You win some, lose some.
Jan 22, 2023 11:18 PM
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Nos4r2Jan 22, 2023 11:18 PM
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Quote from 7465 :
I placed an order for a model y - long-range - 7 seaters, white, no FSD, and with standard wheels last Thursday, 1-19-2023. How long it takes to get the VIN?
I placed mine on the 14th and still no vin.

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Jan 22, 2023 11:26 PM
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CycloneFWJan 22, 2023 11:26 PM
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Quote from t.i. :
I am interested in getting my pack balanced as well. How do you do that?
Don't do it often, but occasionally drain below 10% and then let charge 100%, including that extra hour where it is at 99%. Below 10% to 99% recalibrates and then that top off rebalances the cells in the pack. I don't do this purposefully, it just happens naturally on some of my road trips.

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