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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 28, 2023 02:28 AM
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euuser1398928Jan 28, 2023 02:28 AM
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Quote from IMAFriend :
What do you recommend if selling a 2019 Tesla with FSD?
Seems like most of these sites don't factor in that FSD.
I know (at the moment) that FSD is fairly useless, but it's not worthless. It's a $15k add-on, even if I only get 50% of that value. Seems like these car buying sites don't even acknowledge it.

Thoughts for that?
Assuming you are 2019 HW3 since you mention FSD so you must be HW3...Don't sell. The changes over the last few years are very minor. Just keep and enjoy your telsa. Might be worth the jump in 2024
Jan 28, 2023 02:28 AM
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runtohell121Jan 28, 2023 02:28 AM
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Quote from IMAFriend :
What do you recommend if selling a 2019 Tesla with FSD?
Seems like most of these sites don't factor in that FSD.
I know (at the moment) that FSD is fairly useless, but it's not worthless. It's a $15k add-on, even if I only get 50% of that value. Seems like these car buying sites don't even acknowledge it.

Thoughts for that?
Private party. FSD at trade in is worthless to them; only worth money to private buyers.

I'm trying to get rid of my 2021 VW ID.4 Pro, but at the same time I need to know when the delivery date is for the 2023 Tesla Model 3 RWD.
Jan 28, 2023 02:31 AM
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turns2stoneJan 28, 2023 02:31 AM
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Quote from foxblur :
I didn't know this. I had read "next year" so I assumed 2024 for those vehicles. Further solidifies their position on them and removes my concern that my MYLR won't have them.
Ya you can even see they USS removed in the product images when you go to order the S/X on Tesla.com

Quote from foxblur :
Have you seen any reviews of the MYAWD? Biggest concern for me buying this MYLR. I just wonder about their cameras...
A few people have them on Reddit. What about their cameras?
Jan 28, 2023 02:32 AM
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euuser1398928Jan 28, 2023 02:32 AM
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Quote from mattymsu25 :
lol at all you chumps who paid $6-15k for a garbage beta application.

https://insideevs.com/news/633801...-feasible/
Correct Elon said its not financially viable to retrofit HW4 (FSD 2.0) into HW3 (FSD 1.0). But HW3 is still FSD and is 200-300% safer than a human. You can always wait for the next thing to drop. HW4 will be sluggish and buggy at first. And by the time they iron that out you'll suggest we wait for HW5...
Jan 28, 2023 02:33 AM
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turns2stoneJan 28, 2023 02:33 AM
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Quote from foxblur :
Correct Elon said its not financially viable to retrofit HW4 (FSD 2.0) into HW3 (FSD 1.0). But HW3 is still FSD and is 200-300% safer than a human. You can always wait for the next thing to drop. HW4 will be sluggish and buggy at first. And by the time they iron that out you'll suggest we wait for HW5...
FSD is FSD. There is no 1.0 or 2.0
Jan 28, 2023 02:34 AM
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Travis64Jan 28, 2023 02:34 AM
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Quote from foxblur :
Fremont? Matrix headlights? Ryzen computer?
These are all 2023s
All 2022 had ryzen chips
Jan 28, 2023 02:35 AM
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euuser1398928Jan 28, 2023 02:35 AM
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Quote from turns2stone :
Ya you can even see they USS removed in the product images when you go to order the S/X on Tesla.com



A few people have them on Reddit. What about their cameras?
I've read ideas that there may be new cameras especially in the Chinese MYAWD, 4680, magnetic center console. People are claiming new camera housings now on US M3.

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Jan 28, 2023 02:36 AM
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dilbert007Jan 28, 2023 02:36 AM
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Quote from piscean :
You are a resident for tax purposes. Did they ask for any immigration docs ? Usually they don't may be others can tell what docs they provided ?
Some lenders don't prefer to deal with loan defaulters who might have to leave the country on short notice and never return. Hence they prefer citizens or permanent residents.
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euuser1398928Jan 28, 2023 02:36 AM
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Quote from turns2stone :
FSD is FSD. There is no 1.0 or 2.0
Quote from Elon in 2021...
"I'm confident that HW 3.0 or the FSD Computer 1 will be able to achieve full self-driving at a safety level much greater than a human, probably at least 200-300% better than a human. Obviously, there will be a future HW 4.0 or Full Self Driving Computer 2 which we'll probably introduce with the Cybertruck, so maybe in about a year or so."
Jan 28, 2023 02:42 AM
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turns2stoneJan 28, 2023 02:42 AM
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Quote from foxblur :
I've read ideas that there may be new cameras especially in the Chinese MYAWD, 4680, magnetic center console. People are claiming new camera housings now on US M3.
I have the new camera housing on my 11/22 build Model 3. I haven't seen any Model Y in person or online with the new cameras.

Quote from foxblur :
Quote from Elon in 2021...
"I'm confident that HW 3.0 or the FSD Computer 1 will be able to achieve full self-driving at a safety level much greater than a human, probably at least 200-300% better than a human. Obviously, there will be a future HW 4.0 or Full Self Driving Computer 2 which we'll probably introduce with the Cybertruck, so maybe in about a year or so."
He's describing the hardware "FSD Computer". Not the software. FSD is still FSD.
Jan 28, 2023 02:45 AM
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euuser1398928Jan 28, 2023 02:45 AM
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Quote from turns2stone :
I have the new camera housing on my 11/22 build Model 3. I haven't seen any Model Y in person or online with the new cameras.


He's describing the hardware "FSD Computer". Not the software. FSD is still FSD.
What do you think is the purpose of the new camera housing?
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turns2stoneJan 28, 2023 02:45 AM
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Quote from dilbert007 :
After all the gimmick and hype it's a damn basic badly built overpriced car 🚗.. so some folks might enjoy the much nicer gas vehicle for 50k
I also have a new $50K gas vehicle. I enjoy the Tesla a lot more.
Jan 28, 2023 02:47 AM
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turns2stoneJan 28, 2023 02:47 AM
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Quote from foxblur :
What do you think is the purpose of the new camera housing?
I'm not entirely sure. I came from a 2020 Model 3, and my 2023 Model 3 camera image quality looks about the same.

I haven't seen or read from anyone online that has discovered a difference that translates into something you'd see in the car. However, they new hardware is relatively new. I expect someone to take it apart and compare, at some point.
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vndragonslayerJan 28, 2023 02:47 AM
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Quote from dilbert007 :
After all the gimmick and hype it's a damn basic badly built overpriced car 🚗.. so some folks might enjoy the much nicer gas vehicle for 50k
rather enjoy 37k tesla 3 than overpriced gimmick dinosaur gas guzzler corolla/civics that don't have parking sensors
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dilbert007Jan 28, 2023 02:51 AM
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Quote from turns2stone :
I also have a new $50K gas vehicle. I enjoy the Tesla a lot more.
Of course you have to say that now to be part of the fans-only club and you are on the hook for substantial dough!!

Pl make sure to put some gorilla glue on the handles.. so that it stays. on 😆
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