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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 28, 2023 06:54 AM
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KaizerJan 28, 2023 06:54 AM
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Quote from toromac :
Typical stuff, takings advantage of low income ill-informed people. Sad but that's reality. I've already seen a lot of reddit posts about how people didn't even realize it has no parking sensors and theyre ticked off or severely disappointed. I've had parking sensors on my car since early 2000s. Do I need it? No. But why would I not want the best tech in my car on all aspects?

Haha. Hilarious to see some of the scrubs on this thread.
Single filer with no other deduction would need to earn around $70k to max out the $7500 credit. Is this someone you would call low income ill informed?
Jan 28, 2023 07:08 AM
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dragontalesJan 28, 2023 07:08 AM
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Quote from Kaizer :
Single filer with no other deduction would need to earn around $70k to max out the $7500 credit. Is this someone you would call low income ill informed?
If you're in the bay area you're super poor.
Jan 28, 2023 07:18 AM
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runtohell121Jan 28, 2023 07:18 AM
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Quote from grxnxdos :
Why are you getting rid of your ID.4 Pro. Was considering it since it already qualifies for CVRP and the tax credits so your insight would be helpful.
If you rely on charging network, CCS compared to Tesla is no competition, even if I live in California where there's a lot of chargers, it's just either broken or slow charging due to poor maintenance on the chargers, specifically Electrify America.

Lack of software update or the promise of software update for 2021 owners is a turn off. They started updating 2021 ID.4 end of December 2022 for "select" ID.4 owners, and a few days ago, they put a stop recall notice to pause all future update. So being a 2021 owner, feels like we're left out. The software update was suppose to add auto-hold, fix schedule charging, and improve charging speed.

I guess comparing 2021 vs 2023 is pointless though, since 2023 models have all the fixes and is a US built model that have better charging speed if you are able to get SKI battery models.

Other than that, the ID.4 is quite a comfortable cruiser, but feels a bit sluggish at time. I get nowhere near my EPA rated of 260, but I highly doubt a Model 3 gets anywhere near EPA rated 272; so range wise, both models are probably about 180-220 miles realistic if you're driving above 70mph on highways.
Jan 28, 2023 07:47 AM
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madmoney1Jan 28, 2023 07:47 AM
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Does the $7500 credit have to be applied to next years tax filing season? Is there any way to apply to this years?
Jan 28, 2023 09:19 AM
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NavLordJan 28, 2023 09:19 AM
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Quote from WiseLinen152 :
Guys need some help, TOWER FCU loan, is this only eligible for perm resident or citizen?

I am on work visa. It doesn't give me an option to choose immigrant.

Please help
Contact them to confirm if PR means Green Card holders. From what I know you are Non PR only in USCIS immigration context otherwise visa workers who file taxes in US are considered residents.
Jan 28, 2023 10:40 AM
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nhuqtJan 28, 2023 10:40 AM
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I know a lot of people are having tax questions, and for someone who in the industry, I just want to further explain how it works.

The federal tax credit of $7500 is considered a non-refundable credit. You have refundable credits which are your withholdings, and then non-refundable like this federal tax credit.

What you want to understand also is your tax liability. Your tax liability is based on your gross income, this includes any wages and your 1099-misc, or any income that you have generated for the year that is considered taxable.

Credits are withholding payments, estimated payments, tax credits, etc. These credits/payments are applied to your total tax liability, which decreases your liability. Therefore, the lower the liability, and higher the credits is what you would typically get back as a refund, given they are refundable. When you have a non-refundable credit like this federal tax credit, it will be deducted from your total tax liability. Therefore, if your total tax liability is $6000 for the year based on your income, you will get $6000 out of the $7500 tax credit applied. And any additional refundable credit that was overpaid will be refunded back to you.

It is important to note that your withholding amount is NOT your liability. You base your liability on your total income through a tax table provided by IRS website.

I hope that helps. Smilie
Jan 28, 2023 11:25 AM
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boxturtleJan 28, 2023 11:25 AM
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Quote from madmoney1 :
Does the $7500 credit have to be applied to next years tax filing season? Is there any way to apply to this years?
No, it is not possible to apply to this year's taxes if you bought it this year.

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Jan 28, 2023 11:46 AM
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panda232Jan 28, 2023 11:46 AM
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Quote from nhuqt :
I know a lot of people are having tax questions, and for someone who in the industry, I just want to further explain how it works.

The federal tax credit of $7500 is considered a non-refundable credit. You have refundable credits which are your withholdings, and then non-refundable like this federal tax credit.

What you want to understand also is your tax liability. Your tax liability is based on your gross income, this includes any wages and your 1099-misc, or any income that you have generated for the year that is considered taxable.

Credits are withholding payments, estimated payments, tax credits, etc. These credits/payments are applied to your total tax liability, which decreases your liability. Therefore, the lower the liability, and higher the credits is what you would typically get back as a refund, given they are refundable. When you have a non-refundable credit like this federal tax credit, it will be deducted from your total tax liability. Therefore, if your total tax liability is $6000 for the year based on your income, you will get $6000 out of the $7500 tax credit applied. And any additional refundable credit that was overpaid will be refunded back to you.

It is important to note that your withholding amount is NOT your liability. You base your liability on your total income through a tax table provided by IRS website.

I hope that helps. Smilie
Thank you for this great explanation. 👍🏻
Jan 28, 2023 12:39 PM
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johnnyptJan 28, 2023 12:39 PM
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I ordered tmyl with 7 seats on 1/22/23. Tesla app estimate delivery apr12 to may 14 now. Take too long and will miss the 7.5k tax
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SkillfulName372Jan 28, 2023 01:08 PM
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Ordered MYLR 7seater white on white 01/13/23 around 8:30am est. Got an estimate of feb 23 to March 30 around 01/14/23 night. Yesterday Jan 27 afternoon got a text and email that I have the vin.Estimate changed to Jan 27 to feb7. Delivery scheduled for feb 2.

Applied for tfcu yesterday not sure if iam gonna get loan approval in time for feb 2. Iam going to call them Monday and follow up. Any recommendations on how to proceed with the loan situation.
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Jan 28, 2023 01:26 PM
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mojo-jojo26Jan 28, 2023 01:26 PM
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What's the best place to sell or trade in your current vehicle? I've tried carvana and vroom; offers were somewhat low.
CarMax for hassle free and max returns.
Unless you want to sell to private party for more.
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Quote from SkillfulName372 :
Ordered MYLR 7seater white on white 01/13/23 around 8:30am est. Got an estimate of feb 23 to March 30 around 01/14/23 night. Yesterday Jan 27 afternoon got a text and email that I have the vin.Estimate changed to Jan 27 to feb7. Delivery scheduled for feb 2.

Applied for tfcu yesterday not sure if iam gonna get loan approval in time for feb 2. Iam going to call them Monday and follow up. Any recommendations on how to proceed with the loan situation.
Not possible by 2nd feb for sure but keep working with them for few days after car purchase too for refinance.. Its the truth
Get dealer finance currently and then later refinance with Tfcu within few days..
Their rates are same for purchase or refinance but they are backed up hold tight ..

I have applied from 10 days still work in progress !!!
Hope i get funding by 3rd feb or i am gonna follow same process dealer finance than refinance !!
Tesla finance is quick like 10 mins
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Jan 28, 2023 01:40 PM
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SkillfulName372Jan 28, 2023 01:40 PM
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Quote from MaroonCircle6262 :
Not possible by 2nd feb for sure but keep working with them for few days after car purchase too for refinance.. Its the truth
Get dealer finance currently and then later refinance with Tfcu within few days..
Their rates are same for purchase or refinance but they are backed up hold tight ..

I have applied from 10 days still work in progress !!!
Hope i get funding by 3rd feb or i am gonna follow same process dealer finance than refinance !!
Tesla finance is quick like 10 mins
Thanks. What kind of downpayment is necessary to finance with Tesla?
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Jan 28, 2023 01:42 PM
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MaroonCircle6262
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Quote from SkillfulName372 :
Thanks. What kind of downpayment is necessary to finance with Tesla?
Not sure since i put 50% but it shows like 10% initially when you try to enter information..
Its dependent on credit you can get with no money too..

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DealBozJan 28, 2023 02:10 PM
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Quote from SkillfulName372 :
Ordered MYLR 7seater white on white 01/13/23 around 8:30am est. Got an estimate of feb 23 to March 30 around 01/14/23 night. Yesterday Jan 27 afternoon got a text and email that I have the vin.Estimate changed to Jan 27 to feb7. Delivery scheduled for feb 2.

Applied for tfcu yesterday not sure if iam gonna get loan approval in time for feb 2. Iam going to call them Monday and follow up. Any recommendations on how to proceed with the loan situation.
Which location ?

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