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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 29, 2023 04:12 AM
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BobloadmireJan 29, 2023 04:12 AM
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Quote from seanleeforever :
Hmm. I am not talking about minor paint scratches, but one place didn't have base paint, and another place where the sheet metal had welding mark. Both places are smaller than coin size, but still disappointing this happened because it was so obvious
Oh wow that is seriously noticeable. I haven't noticed anything huge like that yet. Where was your made?
Jan 29, 2023 04:13 AM
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BobloadmireJan 29, 2023 04:13 AM
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Quote from faing :
Thanks! I also saw one in stock Model Y long range AWD for $52,990. But the range list 258 something like that. I hesitate a bit, and it was gone in a couple minute. Do you know why this one is 258 mi range? Thanks!
That's the standard range with the new battery. It's an odd duck
Jan 29, 2023 04:15 AM
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faingJan 29, 2023 04:15 AM
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Quote from Bobloadmire :
That's the standard range with the new battery. It's an odd duck
I thought I clearly saw long range. It could be a typo. But we don't want a car with low range like this. Right?
Jan 29, 2023 04:19 AM
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dtwizzyJan 29, 2023 04:19 AM
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Any update if the crvp rebate for California residents is being updated to include Tesla?
Jan 29, 2023 04:21 AM
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turns2stoneJan 29, 2023 04:21 AM
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Quote from faing :
Thanks! I also saw one in stock Model Y long range AWD for $52,990. But the range list 258 something like that. I hesitate a bit, and it was gone in a couple minute. Do you know why this one is 258 mi range? Thanks!
You saw a "standard range" AWD Model Y, built in Austin, with the 4680 battery cells. It has 269mi of range.

You can't custom order this variation, it goes straight to 'available inventory' and doesn't last very long. It's basically the 'newest of the new' when it comes to Teslas. It has a new front and rear single cast frame. The 4680 batteries are new, but can't yet deliver the power and range found in the 2170s which are in the regular Model Ys.
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faingJan 29, 2023 04:31 AM
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Quote from turns2stone :
You saw a "standard range" AWD Model Y, built in Austin, with the 4680 battery cells. It has 269mi of range.

You can't custom order this variation, it goes straight to 'available inventory' and doesn't last very long. It's basically the 'newest of the new' when it comes to Teslas. It has a new front and rear single cast frame. The 4680 batteries are new, but can't yet deliver the power and range found in the 2170s which are in the regular Model Ys.
I see. Thanks for the information.
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phoceanJan 29, 2023 04:34 AM
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Quote from faing :
I just realized that the EPA estimate is different between custom order and in stock Model Y.

For Model Y long range: custom order is 330 mi range. But in stock one only list 318 mi.

Can anyone explain this to me? Thanks!
318mi is for 20in wheels. 331mi is for the standard 19in wheels. In stock cars mostly have 20in wheels.

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Jan 29, 2023 05:04 AM
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extremus669Jan 29, 2023 05:04 AM
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Quote from supernoman :
Get a divorce and have one who qualifies buy the car.
Divorce would not have helped as each of us made over the top limit. Would be more fair if tax credit was available to everyone. We would have gotten two Teslas.
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KaizerJan 29, 2023 05:14 AM
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Quote from extremus669 :
Divorce would not have helped as each of us made over the top limit. Would be more fair if tax credit was available to everyone. We would have gotten two Teslas.
You've mistakenly wandered into the wrong thread. The Maybach deal expired at the end of 2022.
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supernomanJan 29, 2023 05:16 AM
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Quote from extremus669 :
Divorce would not have helped as each of us made over the top limit. Would be more fair if tax credit was available to everyone. We would have gotten two Teslas.
You could afford 2 as it is. 15k savings is at most 2.5% of your combined income. Get a divorce and quit your job this year to qualify. Next you'll say you already made too much to qualify in January.
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sussigJan 29, 2023 06:25 AM
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Just an update for those who applied with Tower FCU. They are processing apps using first in first out (FIFO). From what I know they're working on those that applied around 1/18-1/19 at the moment. Once the eCommerce team starts working on your membership application it takes them a day or two to process the information. It helps to have already uploaded your identification (driver's license front and back) to the online portal. It does not help to call them until they reach out to you, it only ties up their customer support agents even more. Once they have reviewed and approved your membership, you will be contacted via the portal messaging to sign your membership document via DocuSign (or snail mail) and complete payment. Once these steps are complete it will be another business day to receive your membership information.

Separately, if you applied for a loan application at the same time as your membership, it will likely be approved much sooner. Once it is approved it sits in an "approved pending" state until your membership is completed. Once your membership is complete and account opened, it is recommended at this time to call in to the loan dept and let them know so they can proceed with disbursement of your funding/check.

Hope this helps both the people on this thread and Tower.
besides DL and membership, what other documents do they ask for ?
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Jan 29, 2023 06:35 AM
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Quote from vndragonslayer :
outdated article.. tesla dont cost arm and leg... nice try though
https://www.autoblog.com/2023/01/...aged-cars/

2 day old article, not outdated. The upfront cost of the Tesla is not the main issue, it is the cost of repair. Parts limitations and production methods cause the Tesla models to cost more to repair when damaged compared to legacy OEMs.

This is not a new issue; Tesla even created their own insurance agency to help bring down high insurance rates because the cars are expensive to insure.
https://www.tesla.com/insurance
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ggaproprosJan 29, 2023 07:37 AM
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Quote from extremus669 :
Divorce would not have helped as each of us made over the top limit. Would be more fair if tax credit was available to everyone. We would have gotten two Teslas.
If you both have incomes of over $150k then you should have a house and a mortgage interest payment, you can then file joint but separately and then structure it so you can get one of your AGI under $150k.

the $150k limit sucks for younger people in tech who WFH and rent (me) because my take home pay is less than $60k per year after taxes and rent.
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Quote from ggapropros :
If you both have incomes of over $150k then you should have a house and a mortgage interest payment, you can then file joint but separately and then structure it so you can get one of your AGI under $150k.

the $150k limit sucks for younger people in tech who WFH and rent (me) because my take home pay is less than $60k per year after taxes and rent.
Mortgage interest does not reduce AGI. You are confusing itemized deductions and AGI.

There is little you can do to reduce AGI beyond contributing more to retirement (which you should easily be maxing out at that income level) or making less money.
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ggaproprosJan 29, 2023 08:17 AM
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Quote from scraejtp :
Mortgage interest does not reduce AGI. You are confusing itemized deductions and AGI.

There is little you can do to reduce AGI beyond contributing more to retirement (which you should easily be maxing out at that income level) or making less money.
eh

whoops youre right, had a brain fart

but that person should have a house which means they should be enabled to joint filing separately and maximize 401k contributions which for 2023 is $22,500.
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