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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Quote from vndragonslayer :
whats the 0-60 in your 36k civic?
More than you can afford pal (vroom vroom) Ferraarrriiiiii
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mysqlFeb 01, 2023 02:44 AM
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Quote from dilbert007 :
0-60.. faster acceleration split sec saving gimmicks are meant for newbies who are desperate for recognition. Folks who can truly afford a luxury sports car ..(not by begging and borrowing ), will keep their families, friends, and fellow passengers' safety in mind before trying out any of these antics. So Alon can sell his BS to ill-informed fanboys as the next-gen tech but can't fool us.
So true! ICE automakers have fortunately never charged more for higher horse power vehicles, or used power as a way to sell vehicles. That's why Ferrari, Porsche, Lambos are widely known for being great with storage and trunk space. We should all aspire to own a Civic one day, just to spite Musk.
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ggaproprosFeb 01, 2023 02:48 AM
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Quote from MadPup :
This reminds me of the rush to buy Enron stock when its value fell by 50%.
Same, the power companies are engaging in what should be fraudulent price fixing because of how many teslas there are and the solar that followed, the only difference is now we could actually forego Enron style companies entirely by buying an EV + 3 power walls, you can also stop charging on your tesla app at any time if you see some days with not much sun coming up, and use superchargers to fill up since theyre just as good as gas stations. Great time to be in. Utility companies are going to hit tax payers first with their monthly bill raises, then need the gov to bail them out
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ggaproprosFeb 01, 2023 02:50 AM
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Quote from iamharsh :
Has anyone received any clarity from CPA on how to get the 7500$ tax credit? Given that I meet the eligibility criteria and will pay 10K+ taxes in 2023:

1. Do I ask my employer to not deduct $7500 in taxes from my income so that I can use the credit.
2. Do I let my employer deduct taxes as usual, and will get $7500 refund when I do taxes next year?

I'm very confused. Any help is appreciated.
you can do whatever you want, you could tell your employer to not withhold any taxes the entire year, its just generally not a good idea to owe the gov a big tax bill. If you want you can tell employer to have less withdrawn for a couple months so you can use your $7500 now.
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caymeraFeb 01, 2023 02:54 AM
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Quote from iamharsh :
Has anyone received any clarity from CPA on how to get the 7500$ tax credit? Given that I meet the eligibility criteria and will pay 10K+ taxes in 2023:

1. Do I ask my employer to not deduct $7500 in taxes from my income so that I can use the credit.
2. Do I let my employer deduct taxes as usual, and will get $7500 refund when I do taxes next year?

I'm very confused. Any help is appreciated.
From what I believe, its a tax credit which is only applicable to the Taxes owed and does not get refunded to you. Simple check would be to take a look at your 1040 line 18 and see how much tax you are required to pay. If you owe more than 7500 then you'll get full credit, else you get partial based on whatever the amount is. You may be able to do IRA -> Roth IRA conversion to inflate that number.
Last edited by caymera January 31, 2023 at 08:07 PM.
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dilbert007Feb 01, 2023 02:57 AM
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Quote from foxblur :
Price cuts = feature removal. I do think the govt will somehow keep the 7500 incentive to prevent the race to the bottom mentality competition we're already seeing.
Its unfortunate Taxpayers have to pay for these poorly made vehicles for them to be even viable for some buyers. On top of all the local incentives given for keeping Gigas operational.
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ggaproprosFeb 01, 2023 02:57 AM
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Quote from IndiaPaleAle :
Tesla Energy revs just increased 90% YoY to $1.3B. 'Just look...'
Theres so many boomers that work in stagnant industries like washing machines or tractors or big beef and dont realize how the smartest engineers are not working at their companies but instead going after engineering opportunities that actually have opportunities to hit new targets YoY
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dilbert007Feb 01, 2023 02:59 AM
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Quote from ggapropros :
Same, the power companies are engaging in what should be fraudulent price fixing because of how many teslas there are and the solar that followed, the only difference is now we could actually forego Enron style companies entirely by buying an EV + 3 power walls, you can also stop charging on your tesla app at any time if you see some days with not much sun coming up, and use superchargers to fill up since theyre just as good as gas stations. Great time to be in. Utility companies are going to hit tax payers first with their monthly bill raises, then need the gov to bail them out
And.. missing the most important point
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NamT5832Feb 01, 2023 03:01 AM
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Welp I ordered from SoCal on 1/20 for a Black MYLR. Delivery status never changed from Feb-March.

Changed today to April 1st - May 13th
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nsxalwayzFeb 01, 2023 03:02 AM
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Duh! Everyone knows 0-60 times determines the true performance of a vehicle.

If you ain't first, you're last
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phoceanFeb 01, 2023 03:16 AM
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Quote from foxblur :
You prefer water toys. I prefer land toys. What you hopefully understand is you carry a 3% loan when I bonds and other investments are returning 6.89%.
6.89% is taxable and the 3% is non taxable. There is not much gain here. I imagine one credit hard pull probably is worth close to $1k. So the comparison is really a wash.

But keeping the money give you more flexibility.
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phoceanFeb 01, 2023 03:21 AM
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Quote from caymera :
From what I believe, its a tax credit which is only applicable to the Taxes owed and does not get refunded to you. Simple check would be to take a look at your 1040 line 18 and see how much tax you are required to pay. If you owe more than 7500 then you'll get full credit, else you get partial based on whatever the amount is. You may be able to do IRA -> Roth IRA conversion to inflate that number.
Non-Refundable credit is relative to your total tax liability. So you don't need to do anything regarding withhold.
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phoceanFeb 01, 2023 03:25 AM
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Quote from NamT5832 :
Welp I ordered from SoCal on 1/20 for a Black MYLR. Delivery status never changed from Feb-March.

Changed today to April 1st - May 13th
To show "I am rich", one just need to order 20inch wheel plus in optional color.
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PicolongFeb 01, 2023 03:37 AM
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Quote from fishtank :
Ordered MYLR on 1/26… delivery date just changed to 3/14-3/31
Same here, MYLR W/B no upgrades OD 1/25, FL. The delivery date just changed to 3/14-3/31.

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vndragonslayerFeb 01, 2023 03:46 AM
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Quote from Legosandmcgrew :
Can anyone explain to me why Tesla fans call the Model 3 an M3? The M3 is a sports sedan made by BMW...
abbreviated for model 3

and bmw m3 are useless rust bucket now.. gets smoked by a 47k tesla model 3 P at half the price
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