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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Feb 06, 2023 05:55 AM
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ggaproprosFeb 06, 2023 05:55 AM
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Quote from Brooklynite :
Charging an EV is not 100% efficient. This is a real secret no one talks about. When you fill up a 82KwH battery, the amount of energy you actually use off your house meter is much higher and could be 20% or 50% more or even double who knows, There is literally no documentation on this anywhere and no one has measured it. I have searched many sites and youtube and since Tesla gives you the KwH used no one bothers to measure it off the wall. And honestly its very difficult anyway because its not a regular 110v outlet to just buy a device and measure the efficiency. All that heat generated and the battery cooling etc is all inefficiencies Tesla doesnt want you to know.

So an 82KwH battery to get fully charged would cost me 82 * 1.3 * 0.62 =
Absolute bullshit. I know no one can be this stupid and ignorant as they would not be able to feed themselves in the morning let alone use the internet.

Do you think the tesla charger is a 5000 lumen light bulb that lights up your whole garage? or a space heater? WTF are you smoking??

Perhaps you are confusing EVs with gasoline engines, which because youre exploding fossil fuels in a metal block to spin a drive shaft loses about 70% of its energy to HEAT, which is why you need massive radiators and fans in cars.
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Feb 06, 2023 05:58 AM
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ggaproprosFeb 06, 2023 05:58 AM
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Quote from inthecity :
It all depends on each persons situation. I live in MA. My electricity rate is .45/kw. There is no off peak rate options for me. It's a flat rate anytime of the day. I have a Honda Accord Hybrid that gives me 48miles/gallon. If I chose to transition to EV this is the car I would replace.
However at todays prices it the cost for 100 miles. EV charge cost 26 * .45 = 11.7. Gas cost 3.29 * 100 /48 = $6.85. I don't drive a lot, my average annual mileage is about 8000. My car is 3 years old. I expect maintenance to be minimal $50/year for another 2 years at least.

Based on those numbers it makes no sense to upgrade to an EV in my situation. It all depends on your situation and the car you are replacing. Doing math based on National averages makes no sense. Everyone knows their numbers and should do their own calculations and arrive at a decision.
whats your utilities company
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Feb 06, 2023 06:04 AM
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ggaproprosFeb 06, 2023 06:04 AM
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Quote from sleekwallet :
hu? that's not the case for me. I charge it from my powerwall and the two numbers match
No man, no one has figured out how to measure electricity between the wall and devices, they great gods of power at the utility company can feel how much power transmits over 100 miles and thats how you get your power bill every month
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Feb 06, 2023 06:12 AM
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inthecityFeb 06, 2023 06:12 AM
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Quote from ggapropros :
whats your utilities company
Eversource : here are the links for the tariffs
Supply rate : https://www.eversource.com/conten...pply-rates
Deliver rate : https://www.eversource.com/conten...very-rates
Supply rate : 25.776 , Delivery rate : 16.0
It actually comes to 42 cents not 45 I quoted earlier. Still The gas costs look way better than charging costs.
Feb 06, 2023 06:28 AM
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94c107ea-869c-45a5-becd-c6b552Feb 06, 2023 06:28 AM
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Quote from Brooklynite :
How do you lock a Tesla if you are 20 feet away without using a smartphone?
You said in your original post if 3+ ft away, car doesn't auto lock (false). Your new hypothetical is how to lock if too far away for BT signal but w/o using app.

Q: Why would you NOT wanna use app in that scenario?
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Feb 06, 2023 06:44 AM
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BrooklyniteFeb 06, 2023 06:44 AM
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Quote from IndiaPaleAle :
You said in your original post if 3+ ft away, car doesn't auto lock (false). Your new hypothetical is how to lock if too far away for BT signal but w/o using app.

Q: Why would you NOT wanna use app in that scenario?
In my original post I said you cannot lock your Tesla without opening an app if you are 3 feet away and that is because Tesla does not give you a keyfab that everyone else does.

Unlocking a phone, opening an app, going through options to lock a car is NOT the same as convenience of a single button on a keyfab.
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Feb 06, 2023 06:46 AM
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BrooklyniteFeb 06, 2023 06:46 AM
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Quote from inthecity :
Eversource : here are the links for the tariffs
Supply rate : https://www.eversource.com/conten...pply-rates [eversource.com]
Deliver rate : https://www.eversource.com/conten...very-rates [eversource.com]
Supply rate : 25.776 , Delivery rate : 16.0
It actually comes to 42 cents not 45 I quoted earlier. Still The gas costs look way better than charging costs.
This will be the scenario with all utility companies in the future as more EVs are adopted. Serious laws need to stop utility companies from abusing customers like myself at $0.62/KwH
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Feb 06, 2023 06:49 AM
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BrooklyniteFeb 06, 2023 06:49 AM
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Quote from ggapropros :
Absolute bullshit. I know no one can be this stupid and ignorant as they would not be able to feed themselves in the morning let alone use the internet.

Do you think the tesla charger is a 5000 lumen light bulb that lights up your whole garage? or a space heater? WTF are you smoking??

Perhaps you are confusing EVs with gasoline engines, which because youre exploding fossil fuels in a metal block to spin a drive shaft loses about 70% of its energy to HEAT, which is why you need massive radiators and fans in cars.
You can be as loud and abusive as you want but still charging an 75KwH Tesla battery will cost you way more than 75KW on your meter. And I challenge anyone to find a single link on this issue. I am honestly curious to see it. I scoured the web and youtube and could not find one.

You comparison with gas is actually worthless gas is not sold by size of its energy but sold by the gallons.
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Feb 06, 2023 06:51 AM
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94c107ea-869c-45a5-becd-c6b552Feb 06, 2023 06:51 AM
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Quote from Brooklynite :
In my original post I said you cannot lock your Tesla without opening an app if you are 3 feet away and that is because Tesla does not give you a keyfab that everyone else does.

Unlocking a phone, opening an app, going through options to lock a car is NOT the same as convenience of a single button on a keyfab.
It auto locks via BT though. And trunk/frunk/lock is persistent notification in Android. If that wasn't already intuitive enough, they sell FOB.
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Feb 06, 2023 06:54 AM
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dshopprFeb 06, 2023 06:54 AM
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Quote from Brooklynite :
In my original post I said you cannot lock your Tesla without opening an app if you are 3 feet away and that is because Tesla does not give you a keyfab that everyone else does.

Unlocking a phone, opening an app, going through options to lock a car is NOT the same as convenience of a single button on a keyfab.
you can just buy keyfob
Feb 06, 2023 07:04 AM
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94c107ea-869c-45a5-becd-c6b552Feb 06, 2023 07:04 AM
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Quote from t.i. :
this is some genius recommendation. Want more power go with 3. LOLlaugh out loud
Yep, If I were buying a SUV, the 3rd row (dogs, car seats) & adjustable 2nd row would be way more useful than +1.3s 0-60.
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Feb 06, 2023 07:07 AM
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BrentBurnzFeb 06, 2023 07:07 AM
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Quote from Brooklynite :
In my original post I said you cannot lock your Tesla without opening an app if you are 3 feet away and that is because Tesla does not give you a keyfab that everyone else does.

Unlocking a phone, opening an app, going through options to lock a car is NOT the same as convenience of a single button on a keyfab.
1) they give you a keycard that you can use to lock and unlock your car if you don't have your phone.

2) with your phone, the car automatically locks when you're a few feet away so you don't even need to open the app in your dumb hypothetical.

But keep trying
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clauFeb 06, 2023 07:08 AM
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Quote from Brooklynite :
You can be as loud and abusive as you want but still charging an 75KwH Tesla battery will cost you way more than 75KW on your meter. And I challenge anyone to find a single link on this issue. I am honestly curious to see it. I scoured the web and youtube and could not find one.

You comparison with gas is actually worthless gas is not sold by size of its energy but sold by the gallons.
https://www.caranddriver.com/feat...ng-losses/
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Mikey122687Feb 06, 2023 07:11 AM
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Quote from MotaGotas :
Model Y long range price just went up tonight to $54990/- A $2K bump up — what a joke! Wanted to buy it this week
You had 2 weeks, you snooze you loose
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