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12TB Seagate Exos X16 3.5" 7200RPM SATA Internal Hard Drive (Mfr. Recertified)

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ServerPartDeals has 12TB Seagate Exos X16 3.5" 7200RPM SATA Internal Hard Disk Drive (Manufacturer Recertified, ST12000NM001G) on sale for $104.99. Shipping is free.

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Specs:
  • Exos X16 - 12TB Enterprise HDD
  • CMR recording
  • Helium sealed-drive design
  • Hyperscale SATA model tuned for large data transfers and low latency
  • Supports hot-plugging
  • 256MB cache
  • 2.5 Million hours MTBF
  • 7.2K RPM

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    • Manufacturer Recertified : 2 Year Limited Period Warranty
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ServerPartDeals has 12TB Seagate Exos X16 3.5" 7200RPM SATA Internal Hard Disk Drive (Manufacturer Recertified, ST12000NM001G) on sale for $104.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member Weltweit for finding this deal.

Specs:
  • Exos X16 - 12TB Enterprise HDD
  • CMR recording
  • Helium sealed-drive design
  • Hyperscale SATA model tuned for large data transfers and low latency
  • Supports hot-plugging
  • 256MB cache
  • 2.5 Million hours MTBF
  • 7.2K RPM

Editor's Notes

Written by citan359 | Staff
  • About this product:
    • Manufacturer Recertified : 2 Year Limited Period Warranty
  • About this store:
    • You can view ServerPartDeals's Return Policy here.
  • Additional Note:
    • Please refer to the Forum Thread for additional discussion regarding this deal.

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MWink
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I bought a couple drives from them recently, including this 12TB Seagate Exos X16. The packaging was among the best I've ever seen. The HD was in a sealed anti-static bag, surrounded by bubble wrap, in a box, surrounded by bubble wrap, in another box. The drive was physically immaculate, no dust, scratches, or scuffs. The manufacture date was August 2020. I'm not sure if that's when it was originally manufactured or recertified. After the SMART data had been reset, it had been run just enough to perform one full read scan (which takes close to a day). For those wanting to test the drive, I recommend HDDScan (for Windows). CrystalDiskInfo does not run any diagnostics itself. It merely displays the SMART info from the drive.

The drive works but I have some concerns, as it sometimes seems to take a few tries to calibrate when powering up. The other Exos (an X18) always gets it right on the first try. The drive performs well, with sequential reads/writes around 250MB/s peak. Random 4K reads are about 0.8MB/s, not exactly spectacular. On the other hand, Random 4K writes are over 13MB/s, faster than any other HD I've seen. As far as noise, it seems about the same as the WD/HGST helium drives.

Mine came with outdated firmware. You can get the update from Seagate's site by putting in your serial number. The download takes forever because it's close to dial-up speeds. It comes with a cross-platform command-line utility. I booted to a live Linux session to do the update. Instructions are included. Be careful, the commands are case-sensitive.

This drive has TLER (Time-Limited Error Recovery) which is usually intended for RAID setups. I think it's probably fine to leave this enabled, even when used on its own. The default timer appears to be 10 seconds. If the drive can't sort things out in that period, I doubt more time is going to make much of a difference. You can disable (or adjust) it with smartmontools (also included with GSmartControl). However, the setting must be reapplied after every power cycle. Here is the command:

smartctl -l scterc,0,0 /dev/sdX (Replace sdX with the designation of your drive. Also, this IS case-sensitive.)

This drive does not support conventional APM (Advanced Power Management). However, it does have power-saving features. It has multiple modes, including one that parks the heads and another that reduces the spindle speed. These are enabled by default and too aggressive for my tastes. You can use the SeaChest utility to adjust or disable these. Here are the commands for the Windows version:

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -s

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -d PDx --showEPCSettings

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -d PDx --EPCfeature disable

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -d PDx --powerBalanceFeature info

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -d PDx --powerBalanceFeature disable

Use the first command to determine the "handle" of your drive. For the subsequent commands, replace the "PDx" with your drive's handle. The second and forth commands display the current status of those features. The third and fifth commands disable the respective features. These settings DO appear to persist through power cycles.

For anyone wondering, the Exos X18 I got from them had a manufacture date less than six months ago. It had 0 power-on hours and obviously had NOT been tested after the SMART data was reset. Its firmware is up to date and I have not noticed any issue with it yet.
the12pac
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Looks like the X18's are $5 more
https://serverpartdeals.com/produ...hard-drive
fuzzycuffs
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In a home scenario, basically none.
x18 is slightly faster, but also uses slightly more power. In a home setting in a NAS, the speed benefit won't be realized in any real world situation.

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Jan 26, 2023
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TheRedEyeBandit
Jan 26, 2023
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Quote from Arcanlaw :
Ok, I'm biting, need a large drive to do some comparisons of huge chunks of data.

Before I commit to putting this in my qnap nas, what do you recommend running in terms of qc checking? Any overnight stress testing etc to give you the warm & fuzzies before trusting it?
Crystaldisk
Jan 26, 2023
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epistaxis
Jan 26, 2023
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Quote from Chince :
Anyone worried about them being "Manufacturer Recertified" ?

I remember that being an issue in the past.
Hard drives follow the bathtub curve typically (where most of the failures happen in the first few days/weeks of operation and at the same at the end of life). Seeing how these have a 2 year warranty and they're enterprise class HDDs I'd say go for it.
Pro
Jan 26, 2023
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BrainDoc
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Quote from Chince :
Anyone worried about them being "Manufacturer Recertified" ?

I remember that being an issue in the past.
I'm not worried. I also don't trust data to one drive though, regardless of how good or reliable it is.
Jan 26, 2023
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Switch1984
Jan 26, 2023
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omg what a deal
Jan 26, 2023
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HardwareLust
Jan 26, 2023
398 Posts
I got two of the 12tb x18's the last time they were on sale for $104. They were packed well, and both had 16 hours on them. Been running fine in my 2-bay Synology NAS. Wouldn't hesitate to buy more if I needed them.
Jan 26, 2023
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acbharath14
Jan 26, 2023
640 Posts
Purchased it during the previous deal for the same price a month ago. Overall had total uptime of 50 hours based on crystal disk info and working fine so far
Jan 26, 2023
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AoDAzrael
Jan 26, 2023
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Hm 7200RPM though that has me a little concerned. Back in the day you wanted 7200RPM or even 10k RPM for speed or performance but those days are long past. Theoretically more RPM = more wear and tear on mechanical parts all else being equal. Otherwise this would be an amazing deal and I'd be tempted to pick up 5 of these to toss into our NAS.
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Jan 26, 2023
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_deal_hunter_
Jan 26, 2023
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Any warranty?
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Jan 26, 2023
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SQGGQS
Jan 26, 2023
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is this alright for pc use? i'd plan on storing photos and videos on it. the dollar per tb looks pretty good
Jan 26, 2023
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supertester
Jan 26, 2023
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Are these good for WD NAS? I have the PR4100 4-bay version
Jan 26, 2023
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Hollyman
Jan 26, 2023
59 Posts
I picked up 2 of the 14tb, one was doa but the replacement was easy and relatively quick. I would buy from them again.
Jan 26, 2023
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astrokat
Jan 26, 2023
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Are these loud?
Jan 26, 2023
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DiMAn0684
Jan 26, 2023
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Quote from Tomatoes :
As your sole copy of data you are not prepared to lose? Absolutely, run away.

These have a good place as a secondary backup or if the data is easily replacible
Not like there's any other hard drive that would be an appropriate storage for sole copy of data on is not prepared to lose.
Jan 26, 2023
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SRSinHB
Jan 26, 2023
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I was looking at this one. Found the below link about reliability. Looks good. However, I am thinking of spending $30 more for the 14TB WD. Has slightly better reliability.
https://wccftech.com/backblaze-an...consumers/

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Weltweit
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Quote from sevast :
A long time ago Dell sent out parts marked "new" and "refurbished" for repairs. But they found that people in the know would reject the parts marked refurbished and wanted parts marked new. So they started marking every replacement part as refurbished. I think most if not all the replacement hard drives from Dell are actually new.
I do not recall a new one, maybe I just wasn't lucky. Also it could be that under the warranty agreements we had they were explicitly ok to send a a refurb, that is all we ever got for many years. Usually they were fine.


Quote from epistaxis :
Hard drives follow the bathtub curve typically (where most of the failures happen in the first few days/weeks of operation and at the same at the end of life). Seeing how these have a 2 year warranty and they're enterprise class HDDs I'd say go for it.
I agree, and as always - Make sure you have a backup onsite and offsite if is important to you.

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