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12TB Seagate Exos X16 3.5" 7200RPM SATA Internal Hard Drive (Mfr. Recertified) Expired

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ServerPartDeals has 12TB Seagate Exos X16 3.5" 7200RPM SATA Internal Hard Disk Drive (Manufacturer Recertified, ST12000NM001G) on sale for $104.99. Shipping is free.

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Specs:
  • Exos X16 - 12TB Enterprise HDD
  • CMR recording
  • Helium sealed-drive design
  • Hyperscale SATA model tuned for large data transfers and low latency
  • Supports hot-plugging
  • 256MB cache
  • 2.5 Million hours MTBF
  • 7.2K RPM

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ServerPartDeals.com has 12TB Seagate Exos X16 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 3.5" Hard Disk Drive HDD (Manufacturer Recertified, ST12000NM001G) on sale for $104.99. Shipping is free.

Specs:
Exos X16 - 12TB Enterprise HDD
CMR recording
Helium sealed-drive design
Hyperscale SATA model tuned for large data transfers and low latency
Supports hot-plugging
256MB cache
2.5 Million hours MTBF
7.2K RPM

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Last Edited by MWink January 26, 2023 at 01:52 PM
Mine came with outdated firmware (SN03, current version is SN04). You can get the update from Seagate's site by putting in your serial number. The download takes forever because it's close to dial-up speeds. It comes with a cross-platform command-line utility. I booted to a live Linux session to do the update. Instructions are included. Be careful, the commands are case-sensitive.

This drive has TLER (Time-Limited Error Recovery) which is usually intended for RAID setups. I think it's probably fine to leave this enabled, even when used on its own. The default timer appears to be 10 seconds. If the drive can't sort things out in that period, I doubt more time is going to make much of a difference. You can disable (or adjust) it with smartmontools (also included with GSmartControl). However, the setting must be reapplied after every power cycle. Here is the command:

smartctl -l scterc,0,0 /dev/sdX

(Replace sdX with the designation of your drive.)

This drive does not support conventional APM (Advanced Power Management). However, it does have power-saving features. It has multiple modes, including one that parks the heads and another that reduces the spindle speed. These are enabled by default and too aggressive for my tastes. You can use the SeaChest utility to adjust or disable these. Here are the commands for the Windows version:

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -s

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -d PDx --showEPCSettings

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -d PDx --EPCfeature disable

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -d PDx --powerBalanceFeature info

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -d PDx --powerBalanceFeature disable

Use the first command to determine the "handle" of your drive. For the subsequent commands, replace the "PDx" with your drive's handle. The second and forth commands display the current status of those features. The third and fifth commands disable the respective features. These settings DO appear to persist through power cycles.



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I bought a couple drives from them recently, including this 12TB Seagate Exos X16. The packaging was among the best I've ever seen. The HD was in a sealed anti-static bag, surrounded by bubble wrap, in a box, surrounded by bubble wrap, in another box. The drive was physically immaculate, no dust, scratches, or scuffs. The manufacture date was August 2020. I'm not sure if that's when it was originally manufactured or recertified. After the SMART data had been reset, it had been run just enough to perform one full read scan (which takes close to a day). For those wanting to test the drive, I recommend HDDScan (for Windows). CrystalDiskInfo does not run any diagnostics itself. It merely displays the SMART info from the drive.

The drive works but I have some concerns, as it sometimes seems to take a few tries to calibrate when powering up. The other Exos (an X18) always gets it right on the first try. The drive performs well, with sequential reads/writes around 250MB/s peak. Random 4K reads are about 0.8MB/s, not exactly spectacular. On the other hand, Random 4K writes are over 13MB/s, faster than any other HD I've seen. As far as noise, it seems about the same as the WD/HGST helium drives.

Mine came with outdated firmware. You can get the update from Seagate's site by putting in your serial number. The download takes forever because it's close to dial-up speeds. It comes with a cross-platform command-line utility. I booted to a live Linux session to do the update. Instructions are included. Be careful, the commands are case-sensitive.

This drive has TLER (Time-Limited Error Recovery) which is usually intended for RAID setups. I think it's probably fine to leave this enabled, even when used on its own. The default timer appears to be 10 seconds. If the drive can't sort things out in that period, I doubt more time is going to make much of a difference. You can disable (or adjust) it with smartmontools (also included with GSmartControl). However, the setting must be reapplied after every power cycle. Here is the command:

smartctl -l scterc,0,0 /dev/sdX (Replace sdX with the designation of your drive. Also, this IS case-sensitive.)

This drive does not support conventional APM (Advanced Power Management). However, it does have power-saving features. It has multiple modes, including one that parks the heads and another that reduces the spindle speed. These are enabled by default and too aggressive for my tastes. You can use the SeaChest utility to adjust or disable these. Here are the commands for the Windows version:

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -s

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -d PDx --showEPCSettings

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -d PDx --EPCfeature disable

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -d PDx --powerBalanceFeature info

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -d PDx --powerBalanceFeature disable

Use the first command to determine the "handle" of your drive. For the subsequent commands, replace the "PDx" with your drive's handle. The second and forth commands display the current status of those features. The third and fifth commands disable the respective features. These settings DO appear to persist through power cycles.

For anyone wondering, the Exos X18 I got from them had a manufacture date less than six months ago. It had 0 power-on hours and obviously had NOT been tested after the SMART data was reset. Its firmware is up to date and I have not noticed any issue with it yet.
Looks like the X18's are $5 more
https://serverpartdeals.com/produ...hard-drive
In a home scenario, basically none.
x18 is slightly faster, but also uses slightly more power. In a home setting in a NAS, the speed benefit won't be realized in any real world situation.

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01-31-2023 at 08:57 PM.
01-31-2023 at 08:57 PM.
It will be cheaper?

https://www.techspot.com/news/972...-2022.html

Or more expensive because nobody wants to make them
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Got two in the mail today, both failed the 'Generic Long' test in SeaTools due to tons of bad sectors... Time to see how they handle a DOA claim, I'll be sure to post updates.
What. Hold off. Pass. Remanufacture is supposed to fix the issues and recertify HDD before resale.
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02-01-2023 at 07:20 AM.
02-01-2023 at 07:20 AM.
Quote from Weltweit :
Your controller inside your dock may not be able to address drives beyond a certain size.
If you have access to a desktop, connect it directly and see if you can format it there.
Your dock >>may<< see it afterwards.
I'd download Seatools and run a short and long test as well while it is connected directly to the computer.
One of my docks can not deal with drives over 8TB, the other one can. Both are old and date back to when docks were a new innovation.
I figured that was the case when i smacked the drive directly into the computer instead of using the dock after completing a complete wipe and nothing changed. It popped up immediately and I've been running an extended test since early this morning (60% down....)

Looked up the specs on my dock and its max capacity it can handle is 8TB.
I never knew that docks had a maximum size HDD they could handle so you learn something new every day. Bought a new docking station that can handle 20TB hard drives.
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got the professional for 10 bucks but now has gone up in price. I posted a deal during BF
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Quote from goosedude :
Received my Seagate Exos X18 ST12000NM000J 12TB 7.2K RPM SATA today and plugged into my external dock for testing.

I converted the drive to GPT from MBR but my Win10 Pro machine is still only seeing it as 936GB and not 12TB.

I've looked at the drive via multiple programs (Disk Management, AOMEI Partittion assistance, CrystalDisk, and DiskCheckup and all see only 936GB without ability to expand it to 12TB.

Opinions on what's wrong here?? I already have 3+ TB GPT drives on this computer so don't know the issue.

Doing a full wipe data now.....will see if that allows me to see the full drive capacity.
you did something to screw up the drive partitioning. Go do research on a dos cmd called "Diskpart"
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got the professional for 10 bucks but now has gone up in price. I posted a deal during BF

Pro is better, but this one is totally free right now. I put it the same download on two cpus last night. The activation is prepopulated into the installation.
Reg price is 19.50 on their site. Unless you have bunches like you do, this seems fine.
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Pro is better, but this one is totally free right now. I put it the same download on two cpus last night. The activation is prepopulated into the installation.
Reg price is 19.50 on their site. Unless you have bunches like you do, this seems fine.
yes i can do the same thing with pro
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Received mine yesterday. It makes funny sounds and is not detected. Sigh!
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Received mine yesterday. It makes funny sounds and is not detected. Sigh!

They will pay for the shipping to replace it. I ordered 30 the past month no issues
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It will be cheaper?

https://www.techspot.com/news/972...-2022.html

Or more expensive because nobody wants to make them
Sort term glut with what we are seeing now and then what?
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Just bought 3, for my 2 bay NAS. What tool is everybody using for their drive full write tests?
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you did something to screw up the drive partitioning. Go do research on a dos cmd called "Diskpart"
Or if you have a linux install, GParted is great.
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Or if you have a linux install, GParted is great.
i am sure if he was on linux he would have figured it out. Only smart people who want to deal with cmd lines use that OS
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i am sure if he was on linux he would have figured it out. Only smart people who want to deal with cmd lines use that OS

Gparted is a super easy and powerful gui utility.

A lot of Linux distros these days don't require you to even glance at the terminal much less use it. If you're buying enterprise drives like these that aren't meant for home use, Linux is useful to have for troubleshooting.
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