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expiredicemule1 posted Jan 30, 2023 01:55 PM
expiredicemule1 posted Jan 30, 2023 01:55 PM

12TB Western Digital Ultrastar DC HC520 7200RPM SATA 3.5" Enterprise Hard Drive (Certified Refurbished) - 5 Year Warranty + Free S/H $109.99

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GoHardDrive.com [goharddrive.com] has the 12TB WD Ultrastar enterprise-grade helium-filled hard drives for $109.99 with no tax and free S/H. These drives are certified refurbished by Western Digital and come with a 5 year warranty for peace of mind. GoHardDrive is a reputable seller with over 429K items sold in their eBay store with a 100% positive [ebay.com] feedback record.

Features:
Capacity: 12TB (12000GB)
Buffer: 256 MB Cache
Rotation Speed: 7200RPM
Interface: SATA III 6.0Gb/s
Manufacturer Part #: HUH721212ALN600
Technology: CMR / PMR
Form Factor: 3.5" Mechanical Hard Drive
Seek Time: Average 8.9 ms
Weight: 1.3 lbs
MTBF Rating: 2.5 million hours
Warranty: 5 year warranty

Full spec sheet [westerndigital.com]

Also available is the 10TB version for $89.99 here [goharddrive.com].

There is currently another deal for a similar 12TB Seagate Exos drive for $104.99 with +133 TU but it only has a 2 year warranty. For an extra $5, you get an additional 3 years of warranty coverage with this drive. Well worth it in my opinion.

https://www.goharddrive.com/WD-Ul...1-1313.htm
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GoHardDrive.com [goharddrive.com] has the 12TB WD Ultrastar enterprise-grade helium-filled hard drives for $109.99 with no tax and free S/H. These drives are certified refurbished by Western Digital and come with a 5 year warranty for peace of mind. GoHardDrive is a reputable seller with over 429K items sold in their eBay store with a 100% positive [ebay.com] feedback record.

Features:
Capacity: 12TB (12000GB)
Buffer: 256 MB Cache
Rotation Speed: 7200RPM
Interface: SATA III 6.0Gb/s
Manufacturer Part #: HUH721212ALN600
Technology: CMR / PMR
Form Factor: 3.5" Mechanical Hard Drive
Seek Time: Average 8.9 ms
Weight: 1.3 lbs
MTBF Rating: 2.5 million hours
Warranty: 5 year warranty

Full spec sheet [westerndigital.com]

Also available is the 10TB version for $89.99 here [goharddrive.com].

There is currently another deal for a similar 12TB Seagate Exos drive for $104.99 with +133 TU but it only has a 2 year warranty. For an extra $5, you get an additional 3 years of warranty coverage with this drive. Well worth it in my opinion.

https://www.goharddrive.com/WD-Ul...1-1313.htm

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Jan 30, 2023 02:57 PM
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kangaroombaJan 30, 2023 02:57 PM
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From the product page:

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NOTE: These HDD is used by Datacenter Servers for about 3 Years period.
If you buy, make sure you have backups.
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Jan 30, 2023 03:09 PM
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WindytraderJan 30, 2023 03:09 PM
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2.5 million hrs rating, does that mean operating time of 2.5 million hrs. Because if so, 24hrs/day, 365 days/yr, this thing is rated for 285 yrs of use?

*edit
MTBF =mean(avg) time between failures, so I guess yes to the 285 yrs above
Last edited by Windytrader January 30, 2023 at 07:12 AM.
Jan 30, 2023 04:07 PM
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gluttonneJan 30, 2023 04:07 PM
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Very reasonable price for building out a sizable NAS setup. They may be refurbs but proper enterprise class disks tend to be incredibly durable compared to the regular consumer level SATA disks we commonly see on sale for more, so I think this is a great deal as long as it has the warranty. Maybe not outrageously cheap considering not new, but bang for your buck is strong here.
Jan 30, 2023 08:23 PM
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SnozzberriesJan 30, 2023 08:23 PM
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I'm torn between this or the Seagate Exos x16 orx18.
Which one is more quieter and which is the better deal? Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
Jan 30, 2023 09:13 PM
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SuperMarioWorldJan 30, 2023 09:13 PM
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Price is now $119.99
Jan 30, 2023 11:05 PM
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SnozzberriesJan 30, 2023 11:05 PM
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Why the price jump? I wanted to buy some. I guess seagate is the way to go then
Jan 31, 2023 04:54 AM
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Teaser38Jan 31, 2023 04:54 AM
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Used drive with 25,000 hours of use here versus Seagate refurbished with 15 hours in SMART. Even with the seller warranty, I'm not sure here.
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Jan 31, 2023 11:50 AM
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DavidhhJan 31, 2023 11:50 AM
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Quote from Teaser38 :
Used drive with 25,000 hours of use here versus Seagate refurbished with 15 hours in SMART. Even with the seller warranty, I'm not sure here.
Except that those Seagate drives have forged SMART data. So, no they don't actually have 15 hours on them, and are also likely datacenter pull "refurbs". At least with GoHardDrive and these WD's, they're honest about it. And they're offering a 5 year warrantee, vs 2 years for the Exos at ServerPartDeals.

That said, the Exos drives are generally newer, so they probably have fewer hours on them. But that's less of an issue for durable enterprise drives. I've had much better luck with HGST/Hitatchi/WD Ultrastars, so I bought this before it went FP.
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Why the price jump? I wanted to buy some. I guess seagate is the way to go then
Because it went FP here. SD Effect. Companies often raise prices when there is higher demand for products. Serverpartdeals did the same thing on the Exos drives when those went FP, though they eventually dropped the price of one of them.
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Quote from Davidhh :
Except that those Seagate drives have forged SMART data. So, no they don't actually have 15 hours on them, and are also likely datacenter pull "refurbs". At least with GoHardDrive and these WD's, they're honest about it. And they're offering a 5 year warrantee, vs 2 years for the Exos at ServerPartDeals.

That said, the Exos drives are generally newer, so they probably have fewer hours on them. But that's less of an issue for durable enterprise drives. I've had much better luck with HGST/Hitatchi/WD Ultrastars, so I bought this before it went FP.

Because it went FP here. SD Effect. Companies often raise prices when there is higher demand for products. Serverpartdeals did the same thing on the Exos drives when those went FP, though they eventually dropped the price of one of them.
Couldn't have said it better myself, at least GoHardDrive is being honest about the previous usage. And with a 2.5 million hour MTBF, who cares if it's been used for a few years in a datacenter? That's like 1% of its estimated life. I feel much better with one of these extremely durable enterprise drives than a brand new consumer grade drive.

But I'm not sure what you mean about it going FP .... this post has a negative rating and never made it FP. I guess people would rather jump on the Exos drives with a much inferior warranty? Not me... I bought 6 of these drives back in September when they were the same price. And when I saw them drop again a couple days ago I bought another one to use as a hot spare in the unlikely event that I'll actually need it.

As for the price now being $119.99, I"m sure it will drop back down to $109.99 at some point. The 10TB drives are still available for $89.99 which is a better value per TB anyway.
Last edited by icemule1 January 31, 2023 at 07:13 AM.
Jan 31, 2023 10:02 PM
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SnozzberriesJan 31, 2023 10:02 PM
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Quote from icemule1 :
Couldn't have said it better myself, at least GoHardDrive is being honest about the previous usage. And with a 2.5 million hour MTBF, who cares if it's been used for a few years in a datacenter? That's like 1% of its estimated life. I feel much better with one of these extremely durable enterprise drives than a brand new consumer grade drive.

But I'm not sure what you mean about it going FP .... this post has a negative rating and never made it FP. I guess people would rather jump on the Exos drives with a much inferior warranty? Not me... I bought 6 of these drives back in September when they were the same price. And when I saw them drop again a couple days ago I bought another one to use as a hot spare in the unlikely event that I'll actually need it.

As for the price now being $119.99, I"m sure it will drop back down to $109.99 at some point. The 10TB drives are still available for $89.99 which is a better value per TB anyway.
I was about to complete payment on the 10tb one when I saw that it says they have been used in a data center for 5+ years. I was ok with the 3 years in the 12tb, but 5 years abbot much. I'll just wait till the 12tb come back down in price. Btw, does anyone know how loud these drives can get in same room?
Thanks
Feb 01, 2023 01:29 AM
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DavidhhFeb 01, 2023 01:29 AM
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Quote from icemule1 :
Couldn't have said it better myself, at least GoHardDrive is being honest about the previous usage. And with a 2.5 million hour MTBF, who cares if it's been used for a few years in a datacenter? That's like 1% of its estimated life. I feel much better with one of these extremely durable enterprise drives than a brand new consumer grade drive.

But I'm not sure what you mean about it going FP .... this post has a negative rating and never made it FP. I guess people would rather jump on the Exos drives with a much inferior warranty? Not me... I bought 6 of these drives back in September when they were the same price. And when I saw them drop again a couple days ago I bought another one to use as a hot spare in the unlikely event that I'll actually need it.

As for the price now being $119.99, I"m sure it will drop back down to $109.99 at some point. The 10TB drives are still available for $89.99 which is a better value per TB anyway.
It was on my FP. But SD now targets your FP based on the deals that you click on and comment on. Since I was watching and commenting in the Exos threads, I've been getting a lot of hard drive (and SSD) deals on my front page.
Feb 01, 2023 11:42 AM
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wildsage123Feb 01, 2023 11:42 AM
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Ive bought drives from gohardware. Drives run perfect for a year oe more so far. I beat the heck out of them when i first got them. Really hammered them. They passed every test. I at least reinitialize them now (surface test) in hard disk sentinel. It erases, writes and reads every sector and the app shows how strong each sector is with a color map,

Gohardware has a decent reputation. I was warned to stay away from the other dealers on Amazon of refurb drives.

I grabbed this from my notes I took a year ago researching drives fwiw: "Goharddrive, also uses the handles WPI (Amazon) and Apethouse (eBay). They warrant the drives and have an easy RMA process, they just send the shipping label and replace the drives."

Lastly, the bigger the drive, the more likely it has not been used for 5 plus years. That is how I feel about it. i check when a certain size drive hit the market, and assume it could be that old. They zero out the drives SMART now. before they left all the hours on smart.
Mar 31, 2023 09:27 AM
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DavidhhMar 31, 2023 09:27 AM
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A few points:
- Both $100 and $110 (the current price) are the cheapest we've ever seen for 14TB drives.

- the WD HC 520 has to be incorrectly labeled, and is actually a HC 530, since WD didn't make 520's in 14TB. (Either that, or the 14TB listing is wrong, but the model number confirms that it's 14TB.)

- That's actually a good thing, since with each new version, they get slightly faster and slightly more efficient. It also makes it likely to be newer and have less datacenter use.

- If the model number is correct, this drive has the power disable feature (based on the second to last digit being a "0", rather than an "L" for legacy). If you have an older system or power supply, it MIGHT not work out of the box as is. But a cheap ($5-ish) power adapter (or some kapton tape on the third pin of the connection) will make it work fine. So, if you've already gotten one, and it's not working, don't assume that it's broken.

I'm surprised that goharddrive didn't mention the power disable feature, since it's important to know about, given that it can completely disable the drive on most older systems! Then again, they have it incorrectly listed as an HC520 (which may or may not have this feature), so they may not have realized.

At either price, I'd jump on this deal - if I didn't already have a 12TB HC 520 sitting on my shelf unused!

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