Get this and if you feel like you should have gone with the 16", then just throw the milwaukee 16" bar and chain on it and convert it to 16". It uses the same tool/body/motor as the 16" saw, this one just has a 14" bar/chain on it.
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yup, i'm big on correcting the rampant devaluation of words these days...
somebody gota fight the good fight
This argument comes up on every HD "hackable" deal. Most logical explanation I've heard is that "hack" here is the other (actually, first) definition, meaning to cut apart. We assume the computer hack definition or gaming the system, but simply it's just parting out a sale.
Not saying it's a good use of the word or that I wasn't confused either initially. Probably it was intentionally chosen to be confusing as clickbait (conspiracy theory)
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yup, i'm big on correcting the rampant devaluation of words these days...
somebody gota fight the good fight
A common usage of the word "hack" is to use something (especially a computer system) in a way that wasn't intended but is nonetheless useful to the hacker. Many, if not most "cyber hacks" involve the hacker noticing a flaw in a system that can be taken advantage of *in a way that wasn't intended*.
This "hack" literally fits that definition. HD probably didn't intend for the "free gift" promotional system to be used as an extra X% off discount. (I'm sure they're aware by now and it probably just doesn't happen enough to bother fixing.)
Point is, that this is absolutely a correct usage of the word hack, unless you want to stick to pre-19th century definitions.
Do chainsaws go on sale typiclly before the traditional "mowing season" anyways? I feel like with retailers hurting so bad in earnings lately that the real deals will be coming in general. Anyone else with insights there?
A common usage of the word "hack" is to use something (especially a computer system) in a way that wasn't intended but is nonetheless useful to the hacker. Many, if not most "cyber hacks" involve the hacker noticing a flaw in a system that can be taken advantage of *in a way that wasn't intended*.
This "hack" literally fits that definition. HD probably didn't intend for the "free gift" promotional system to be used as an extra X% off discount. (I'm sure they're aware by now and it probably just doesn't happen enough to bother fixing.)
Point is, that this is absolutely a correct usage of the word hack, unless you want to stick to pre-19th century definitions.
of course they meant it to be this way... because that's how they literally designed it, coded it and specifically state it on the receipt, in plain text. if they "didn't intend" for items to have a prorated value, it wouldn't be there. just like Lowe's 0s out the free item and discounts main item. that's how they designed it and intended it to be used.
because HomeDepot doesn't care about the discount and ability to return the "free" item doesn't make it a hack in any way... you're literally following the clearly printed instructions given to you by the vendor.
This argument comes up on every HD "hackable" deal. Most logical explanation I've heard is that "hack" here is the other (actually, first) definition, meaning to cut apart. We assume the computer hack definition or gaming the system, but simply it's just parting out a sale.
Not saying it's a good use of the word or that I wasn't confused either initially. Probably it was intentionally chosen to be confusing as clickbait (conspiracy theory)
yeah, i've heard that justification before (which obviously isn't the case, see the post below yours)... but even that isn't what's happening here. it's already two separate items, listed as discrete entities on the receipt, once it's in your hands. there's nothing to "hack" apart.
if somebody figures out how to get this to work with the bundled items (like the OP posted), where it's one line item on the receipt... then total agree, you've hacked apart the bundle and got a prorated refund for one of the items by way of a hack.
Do chainsaws go on sale typiclly before the traditional "mowing season" anyways? I feel like with retailers hurting so bad in earnings lately that the real deals will be coming in general. Anyone else with insights there?
i generally find the best deals at the end of whatever the items season would be, or at the total opposite season... normally trying to clear out stock for items that will sell easily off the shelves during those times.
right before or during when the item is generally used is the worst time in my opinion... they know you need it, no reason to discount
of course they meant it to be this way... because that's how they literally designed it, coded it and specifically state it on the receipt, in plain text. if they "didn't intend" for items to have a prorated value, it wouldn't be there. just like Lowe's 0s out the free item and discounts main item. that's how they designed it and intended it to be used.
because HomeDepot doesn't care about the discount and ability to return the "free" item doesn't make it a hack in any way... you're literally following the clearly printed instructions given to you by the vendor.
You're missing my point. It's about whether or not it is used in the way or for the purpose intended. If HD had intended to make this act like a discount, it would've been a lot cheaper (logistically) for them to allow users to opt for an additional 5% off or whatever, and not waste a lot of money shipping items that will be returned or not picked up.
Any "free gift" system like this is going to have the problem of how you handle returns. HD did it in this way (for various good reasons I could guess at), which opened up the possibility for the system to be abused to get an extra discount *without any intention of keeping the item*. Using it in this way is non-obvious to many people and obviously not how it was intended to be used, so it's appropriately called a "hack".
I don't understand the shills in this thread downvoting the "hack". Who cares? I've bought a few tools from these big box stores that ended up being returns that were repackaged as new. Are their profit margins hurting our pockets?
You're missing my point. It's about whether or not it is used in the way or for the purpose intended. If HD had intended to make this act like a discount, it would've been a lot cheaper (logistically) for them to allow users to opt for an additional 5% off or whatever, and not waste a lot of money shipping items that will be returned or not picked up.
Any "free gift" system like this is going to have the problem of how you handle returns. HD did it in this way (for various good reasons I could guess at), which opened up the possibility for the system to be abused to get an extra discount *without any intention of keeping the item*. Using it in this way is non-obvious to many people and obviously not how it was intended to be used, so it's appropriately called a "hack".
"Using it in this way is non-obvious"
are you serious dude..? it's a line item on the receipt, clear as day. it literally tells you the maximum return value of each item, both online and instore. it doesn't get much more obvious than that.
you can tell yourself whatever you'd like... but this is clearly using the system as it was intended and outlined to the consumer. no in any way a "hack".
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I don't understand the shills in this thread downvoting the "hack". Who cares? I've bought a few tools from these big box stores that ended up being returns that were repackaged as new. Are their profit margins hurting our pockets?
not sure you know what a shill is...
also, this thread isn't even for returning the battery and keeping the saw... the OP never updated/added it, it's just for the DotD. my guess is the few downvotes are from people that are either upset it's not the 16'' bar or it doesn't have the 12Ah HO battery.
"Using it in this way is non-obvious"
are you serious dude..? it's a line item on the receipt, clear as day. it literally tells you the maximum return value of each item, both online and instore. it doesn't get much more obvious than that.
you can tell yourself whatever you'd like... but this is clearly using the system as it was intended and outlined to the consumer. no in any way a "hack".
not sure you know what a shill is...
also, this thread isn't even for returning the battery and keeping the saw... the OP never updated/added it, it's just for the DotD. my guess is the few downvotes are from people that are either upset it's not the 16'' bar or it doesn't have the 12Ah HO battery.
"...non-obvious to many people" - this is objectively true, demonstrated by the fact that people ask how the hack works, and are often confused, in every similar thread - including this one - so yes I'm serious. Obvious to you does not mean obvious to everyone.
Battery operated drill/SDS. Wut?? No thanks.
Battery operated impact driver/wrench. Wut?? No thanks.
Battery operated reciprocating/jig saw. Wut?? No thanks.
Battery operated weedwacker. Wut?? No thanks.
Battery operated RC car. Wut?? No thanks.
Battery operated car/truck. Wut?? No thanks.
see how your comment gets real silly, real quick grandpa..?
for all day work, nope, obviously it's not going to replace a gas power chainsaw... but for jobs within the allotted time/scope, the good battery chainsaws are actually beasts these days. it'll be nice not to grab my 20'' 455 Rancher for small jobs.
"...non-obvious to many people" - this is objectively true, demonstrated by the fact that people ask how the hack works, and are often confused, in every similar thread - including this one - so yes I'm serious. Obvious to you does not mean obvious to everyone.
ROFL...
yes, peoples inability to understand what they're reading makes things a hack... that's what you're going with now? so in no way circumventing the system, you're just telling people how to do something they don't understand?
yup, hacking the world over there... update that resume, Anonymous is probably looking for new members!!!
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somebody gota fight the good fight
Not saying it's a good use of the word or that I wasn't confused either initially. Probably it was intentionally chosen to be confusing as clickbait (conspiracy theory)
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somebody gota fight the good fight
A common usage of the word "hack" is to use something (especially a computer system) in a way that wasn't intended but is nonetheless useful to the hacker. Many, if not most "cyber hacks" involve the hacker noticing a flaw in a system that can be taken advantage of *in a way that wasn't intended*.
This "hack" literally fits that definition. HD probably didn't intend for the "free gift" promotional system to be used as an extra X% off discount. (I'm sure they're aware by now and it probably just doesn't happen enough to bother fixing.)
Point is, that this is absolutely a correct usage of the word hack, unless you want to stick to pre-19th century definitions.
waited to long to get back to this
This "hack" literally fits that definition. HD probably didn't intend for the "free gift" promotional system to be used as an extra X% off discount. (I'm sure they're aware by now and it probably just doesn't happen enough to bother fixing.)
Point is, that this is absolutely a correct usage of the word hack, unless you want to stick to pre-19th century definitions.
because HomeDepot doesn't care about the discount and ability to return the "free" item doesn't make it a hack in any way... you're literally following the clearly printed instructions given to you by the vendor.
Not saying it's a good use of the word or that I wasn't confused either initially. Probably it was intentionally chosen to be confusing as clickbait (conspiracy theory)
if somebody figures out how to get this to work with the bundled items (like the OP posted), where it's one line item on the receipt... then total agree, you've hacked apart the bundle and got a prorated refund for one of the items by way of a hack.
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right before or during when the item is generally used is the worst time in my opinion... they know you need it, no reason to discount
because HomeDepot doesn't care about the discount and ability to return the "free" item doesn't make it a hack in any way... you're literally following the clearly printed instructions given to you by the vendor.
You're missing my point. It's about whether or not it is used in the way or for the purpose intended. If HD had intended to make this act like a discount, it would've been a lot cheaper (logistically) for them to allow users to opt for an additional 5% off or whatever, and not waste a lot of money shipping items that will be returned or not picked up.
Any "free gift" system like this is going to have the problem of how you handle returns. HD did it in this way (for various good reasons I could guess at), which opened up the possibility for the system to be abused to get an extra discount *without any intention of keeping the item*. Using it in this way is non-obvious to many people and obviously not how it was intended to be used, so it's appropriately called a "hack".
Any "free gift" system like this is going to have the problem of how you handle returns. HD did it in this way (for various good reasons I could guess at), which opened up the possibility for the system to be abused to get an extra discount *without any intention of keeping the item*. Using it in this way is non-obvious to many people and obviously not how it was intended to be used, so it's appropriately called a "hack".
are you serious dude..? it's a line item on the receipt, clear as day. it literally tells you the maximum return value of each item, both online and instore. it doesn't get much more obvious than that.
you can tell yourself whatever you'd like... but this is clearly using the system as it was intended and outlined to the consumer. no in any way a "hack".
also, this thread isn't even for returning the battery and keeping the saw... the OP never updated/added it, it's just for the DotD. my guess is the few downvotes are from people that are either upset it's not the 16'' bar or it doesn't have the 12Ah HO battery.
are you serious dude..? it's a line item on the receipt, clear as day. it literally tells you the maximum return value of each item, both online and instore. it doesn't get much more obvious than that.
you can tell yourself whatever you'd like... but this is clearly using the system as it was intended and outlined to the consumer. no in any way a "hack".
not sure you know what a shill is...
also, this thread isn't even for returning the battery and keeping the saw... the OP never updated/added it, it's just for the DotD. my guess is the few downvotes are from people that are either upset it's not the 16'' bar or it doesn't have the 12Ah HO battery.
"...non-obvious to many people" - this is objectively true, demonstrated by the fact that people ask how the hack works, and are often confused, in every similar thread - including this one - so yes I'm serious. Obvious to you does not mean obvious to everyone.
Battery operated impact driver/wrench. Wut?? No thanks.
Battery operated reciprocating/jig saw. Wut?? No thanks.
Battery operated weedwacker. Wut?? No thanks.
Battery operated RC car. Wut?? No thanks.
Battery operated car/truck. Wut?? No thanks.
see how your comment gets real silly, real quick grandpa..?
for all day work, nope, obviously it's not going to replace a gas power chainsaw... but for jobs within the allotted time/scope, the good battery chainsaws are actually beasts these days. it'll be nice not to grab my 20'' 455 Rancher for small jobs.
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yes, peoples inability to understand what they're reading makes things a hack... that's what you're going with now? so in no way circumventing the system, you're just telling people how to do something they don't understand?
yup, hacking the world over there... update that resume, Anonymous is probably looking for new members!!!