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So I started to ladder T-Bills for the reasons everyone is stating in this thread. The rate is so volatile (in a good way) that locking into anything even 12 months is too long for me and rates continue to climb. I use fidelity and my suggestion is this.
When they offer the new 4 week and 8 week and 13 week t-bill (they auction on diff days and diff weeks) go in and buy one of each of them with whatever money you can spare. Let's use 5k for each.
I would buy a 4 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy an 8 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy a 13 week t-bill WITH Rollover for 5k
Then after 4 weeks when that first on comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Then after 8 weeks when the second comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Now you will have 3 13 week t-bills rolling every 4 weeks or so and rolling into a new one with the proceeds. This way every 4 weeks you are capturing an increasing rate and not locked into anything longer than 13 weeks. You benefit from the rate hikes, can cash out at any time, and you have state tax shelter from the earned interest.
I can almost guarantee that the above will yield you more net income (taking in tax break) at the end of 11months then the 5% locked CD
just my 2cents
You can buy treasuries from just about any brokerage. I use Fidelity, as I like their platform and they don't charge fees/commissions for treasuries. Fidelity Fixed Income Page[fidelity.com]
Follow the above link and scroll down to the row "U.S. Treasury." Choose the duration you want and click on it. You can then click "buy" to start a trade of a specific treasury bill/bond. Fidelity's Intro to Treasuries[fidelity.com]
This is true, but it doesn't make an 11-month CD at 5% a bad idea. Those HYS can change their rates at any time, but here you're guaranteed to get 5%.
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02-02-2023 at 01:59 PM.
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Should I do this or 4.75% with treasury bonds?
Depends on your state/local tax rate and your expectations for treasury rates in the near future. Take the 5% return (annualized) of this CD and multiply it by (1 - state income tax). If that's greater than 4.75%, then the CD might give you a larger return.
Also consider that you'll forfeit the interest on your CD if you withdraw early. If you need liquidity, then the treasury is probably a better bet, even if you could make slightly more money on the CD.
Also, keep in mind that the CapitalOne CD is 5% APY, while the 4.75% treasury bond is the actual interest rate. This means that if you sequentially buy two 6 month treasuries at 4.75%, then you'll actually end up with a 4.81% return for the year.
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02-02-2023 at 02:16 PM.
Here's a hack that not everyone thinks about. Break the amount you lock in a CD into smaller amounts.
For example, if you are doing a 500k CD, do 5 100k accounts. That way, if you need 100k or less before term you only get 1/5 the penalty as you only have to break one smaller CD.
Here's a hack that not everyone thinks about. Break the amount you lock in a CD into smaller amounts.
For example, if you are doing a 500k CD, do 5 100k accounts. That way, if you need 100k or less before term you only get 1/5 the penalty as you only have to break one smaller CD.
Here's a hack that not everyone thinks about. Break the amount you lock in a CD into smaller amounts.
For example, if you are doing a 500k CD, do 5 100k accounts. That way, if you need 100k or less before term you only get 1/5 the penalty as you only have to break one smaller CD.
Here's a hack that not everyone thinks about. Break the amount you lock in a CD into smaller amounts.
For example, if you are doing a 500k CD, do 5 100k accounts. That way, if you need 100k or less before term you only get 1/5 the penalty as you only have to break one smaller CD.
Exactly what I do, have more CDs with less amounts so you can break only what you need
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When they offer the new 4 week and 8 week and 13 week t-bill (they auction on diff days and diff weeks) go in and buy one of each of them with whatever money you can spare. Let's use 5k for each.
I would buy a 4 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy an 8 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy a 13 week t-bill WITH Rollover for 5k
Then after 4 weeks when that first on comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Then after 8 weeks when the second comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Now you will have 3 13 week t-bills rolling every 4 weeks or so and rolling into a new one with the proceeds. This way every 4 weeks you are capturing an increasing rate and not locked into anything longer than 13 weeks. You benefit from the rate hikes, can cash out at any time, and you have state tax shelter from the earned interest.
I can almost guarantee that the above will yield you more net income (taking in tax break) at the end of 11months then the 5% locked CD
just my 2cents
Fidelity Fixed Income Page [fidelity.com]
Follow the above link and scroll down to the row "U.S. Treasury." Choose the duration you want and click on it. You can then click "buy" to start a trade of a specific treasury bill/bond.
Fidelity's Intro to Treasuries [fidelity.com]
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Not sure if there's compound interest that one can earn for keeping it locked in longer.
This isn't that.
Not sure if there's compound interest that one can earn for keeping it locked in longer.
https://www.capitalone.
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Also consider that you'll forfeit the interest on your CD if you withdraw early. If you need liquidity, then the treasury is probably a better bet, even if you could make slightly more money on the CD.
Also, keep in mind that the CapitalOne CD is 5% APY, while the 4.75% treasury bond is the actual interest rate. This means that if you sequentially buy two 6 month treasuries at 4.75%, then you'll actually end up with a 4.81% return for the year.
Not sure if there's compound interest that one can earn for keeping it locked in longer.
https://www.bankrate.co
This isn't that.
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For example, if you are doing a 500k CD, do 5 100k accounts. That way, if you need 100k or less before term you only get 1/5 the penalty as you only have to break one smaller CD.
For example, if you are doing a 500k CD, do 5 100k accounts. That way, if you need 100k or less before term you only get 1/5 the penalty as you only have to break one smaller CD.
This is smart thinking. Repped.
For example, if you are doing a 500k CD, do 5 100k accounts. That way, if you need 100k or less before term you only get 1/5 the penalty as you only have to break one smaller CD.
https://www.bankrate.co
Thank you. I calculated $91.48 earned if kept in for 11 months at the 5% rate. Then, the CD percent will either go up or down a bit after that.
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For example, if you are doing a 500k CD, do 5 100k accounts. That way, if you need 100k or less before term you only get 1/5 the penalty as you only have to break one smaller CD.
Exactly what I do, have more CDs with less amounts so you can break only what you need