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So I started to ladder T-Bills for the reasons everyone is stating in this thread. The rate is so volatile (in a good way) that locking into anything even 12 months is too long for me and rates continue to climb. I use fidelity and my suggestion is this.

When they offer the new 4 week and 8 week and 13 week t-bill (they auction on diff days and diff weeks) go in and buy one of each of them with whatever money you can spare. Let's use 5k for each.

I would buy a 4 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy an 8 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy a 13 week t-bill WITH Rollover for 5k

Then after 4 weeks when that first on comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Then after 8 weeks when the second comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.

Now you will have 3 13 week t-bills rolling every 4 weeks or so and rolling into a new one with the proceeds. This way every 4 weeks you are capturing an increasing rate and not locked into anything longer than 13 weeks. You benefit from the rate hikes, can cash out at any time, and you have state tax shelter from the earned interest.

I can almost guarantee that the above will yield you more net income (taking in tax break) at the end of 11months then the 5% locked CD

just my 2cents
You can buy treasuries from just about any brokerage. I use Fidelity, as I like their platform and they don't charge fees/commissions for treasuries.
Fidelity Fixed Income Page [fidelity.com]
Follow the above link and scroll down to the row "U.S. Treasury." Choose the duration you want and click on it. You can then click "buy" to start a trade of a specific treasury bill/bond.
Fidelity's Intro to Treasuries [fidelity.com]
This is true, but it doesn't make an 11-month CD at 5% a bad idea. Those HYS can change their rates at any time, but here you're guaranteed to get 5%.

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myselfdotcom
02-02-2023 at 06:31 PM.
02-02-2023 at 06:31 PM.
Quote from Puff601 :
Probably the wrong place to ask but... What would you guys do with 500k or so to ensure its not just sitting in an account gaining minimal interest?
cocaine and hookers!
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02-02-2023 at 06:35 PM.
02-02-2023 at 06:35 PM.
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If you're on website, click on the rep number next to the name. If on the app, I believe there's a link under each post where you can give thanks.
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02-02-2023 at 06:39 PM.

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02-02-2023 at 06:39 PM.
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02-02-2023 at 06:45 PM.
02-02-2023 at 06:45 PM.
Quote from mblock66 :
So I started to ladder T-Bills for the reasons everyone is stating in this thread. The rate is so volatile (in a good way) that locking into anything even 12 months is too long for me and rates continue to climb. I use fidelity and my suggestion is this.

When they offer the new 4 week and 8 week and 13 week t-bill (they auction on diff days and diff weeks) go in and buy one of each of them with whatever money you can spare. Let's use 5k for each.

I would buy a 4 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy an 8 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy a 13 week t-bill WITH Rollover for 5k

Then after 4 weeks when that first on comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Then after 8 weeks when the second comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.

Now you will have 3 13 week t-bills rolling every 4 weeks or so and rolling into a new one with the proceeds. This way every 4 weeks you are capturing an increasing rate and not locked into anything longer than 13 weeks. You benefit from the rate hikes, can cash out at any time, and you have state tax shelter from the earned interest.

I can almost guarantee that the above will yield you more net income (taking in tax break) at the end of 11months then the 5% locked CD

just my 2cents
Nice post and alternative. Different brokers work differently on buying t-bills with some having high quantity limits for purchase so if one doesn't work, try another. Also, not sure how you "can cash out at any time" with your t-bills, I guess you can try and sell them on secondary market through your broker? Anyhow, if you want to get safe/easy 5%, the 11-month CD is actually pretty decent if you don't mind being locked up during that time and probably won't end up costing you much over the laddering the same time period, unless you are playing in huge dollar amounts.
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ScarletCable765
02-02-2023 at 06:47 PM.
02-02-2023 at 06:47 PM.
I appreciate all of the posts above mentioning T Bills from Fidelity. I've never been into this type of stuff and always held my money in savings accounts plus brokerage accounts where I would just buy and hold stocks (and the occasional options trading). But last year I made the most money I ever have in my life through work and have about 670k saved from the year and it seems like a no brainer to put the majority of that into some low-risk stuff like T Bills (I already use Fidelity as my broker). I have a lot to learn!
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vivithemage
02-02-2023 at 07:02 PM.
02-02-2023 at 07:02 PM.
Quote from TurtlePerson2 :
Depends on your state/local tax rate and your expectations for treasury rates in the near future. Take the 5% return (annualized) of this CD and multiply it by (1 - state income tax). If that's greater than 4.75%, then the CD might give you a larger return.

Also consider that you'll forfeit the interest on your CD if you withdraw early. If you need liquidity, then the treasury is probably a better bet, even if you could make slightly more money on the CD.

Also, keep in mind that the CapitalOne CD is 5% APY, while the 4.75% treasury bond is the actual interest rate. This means that if you sequentially buy two 6 month treasuries at 4.75%, then you'll actually end up with a 4.81% return for the year.
Is there an ELI5 on how these work? I haven't found much simple information on it.
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beowulf7
02-02-2023 at 07:08 PM.
02-02-2023 at 07:08 PM.
What's the penalty for early withdrawal? Loss of all the interest earned?

Edit: I found the answer.

Early Withdrawal Penalty: If you redeem a Certificate of Deposit (CD) prior to maturity, you will incur an early withdrawal penalty.

For a CD with a twelve (12) month or shorter term, the penalty is three (3) months interest, regardless of when you redeem the account prior to maturity.
For a CD with a term greater than twelve (12) months, the penalty is six (6) months of interest regardless of when you redeem the account prior to maturity.
If any Certificate of Deposit owner dies or is declared legally incompetent, the Certificate of Deposit can be redeemed early, without penalty.

Depending on how early you redeem your CD, the penalty for early redemption may be greater than the interest you have earned on your account.
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02-02-2023 at 07:09 PM.
02-02-2023 at 07:09 PM.
Quote from mblock66 :
So I started to ladder T-Bills for the reasons everyone is stating in this thread. The rate is so volatile (in a good way) that locking into anything even 12 months is too long for me and rates continue to climb. I use fidelity and my suggestion is this.

When they offer the new 4 week and 8 week and 13 week t-bill (they auction on diff days and diff weeks) go in and buy one of each of them with whatever money you can spare. Let's use 5k for each.

I would buy a 4 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy an 8 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy a 13 week t-bill WITH Rollover for 5k

Then after 4 weeks when that first on comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Then after 8 weeks when the second comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.

Now you will have 3 13 week t-bills rolling every 4 weeks or so and rolling into a new one with the proceeds. This way every 4 weeks you are capturing an increasing rate and not locked into anything longer than 13 weeks. You benefit from the rate hikes, can cash out at any time, and you have state tax shelter from the earned interest.

I can almost guarantee that the above will yield you more net income (taking in tax break) at the end of 11months then the 5% locked CD

just my 2cents

Great post. Thanks for sharing.
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02-02-2023 at 07:25 PM.
02-02-2023 at 07:25 PM.
Quote from paayter :
I signed up for Robinhood gold which gives you 4 percent yield on the cash shitting there. If you put in a big enough amount the 5 dollar per
Month fee is neglible.
I was going to say this as well. $1500 is breakeven, but after that 4% yield and your money remains liquid.
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02-02-2023 at 07:35 PM.
02-02-2023 at 07:35 PM.
Quote from charger :
What's the highest savings account APY from a reliable bank/credit union that does NOT require direct deposit? I'm seeing UFB Direct at 4.21% but I've never heard of them before.

Have used them for 3 months. Got 1099 they are really axos bank.
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02-02-2023 at 07:50 PM.
02-02-2023 at 07:50 PM.
Quote from mblock66 :
So I started to ladder T-Bills for the reasons everyone is stating in this thread. The rate is so volatile (in a good way) that locking into anything even 12 months is too long for me and rates continue to climb. I use fidelity and my suggestion is this.

When they offer the new 4 week and 8 week and 13 week t-bill (they auction on diff days and diff weeks) go in and buy one of each of them with whatever money you can spare. Let's use 5k for each.

I would buy a 4 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy an 8 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy a 13 week t-bill WITH Rollover for 5k

Then after 4 weeks when that first on comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Then after 8 weeks when the second comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.

Now you will have 3 13 week t-bills rolling every 4 weeks or so and rolling into a new one with the proceeds. This way every 4 weeks you are capturing an increasing rate and not locked into anything longer than 13 weeks. You benefit from the rate hikes, can cash out at any time, and you have state tax shelter from the earned interest.

I can almost guarantee that the above will yield you more net income (taking in tax break) at the end of 11months then the 5% locked CD

just my 2cents

Can you share a website where I can learn more about this? No rollover vs rollover? Pls and Ty!
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02-02-2023 at 07:59 PM.
02-02-2023 at 07:59 PM.
Quote from shopperuvdealz :
I have the Capital One Quicksilver credtcard,but nothing else with Capital One. Can a Capital One CD account be tied to a checking account with a different bank to transfer funds? Thanks for being helpful and patient with a banking newby.
I believe you can. But there is another sure way. Open a Capital One savings account, tie it to your external bank account and then do the transfers from there. It's much easier than tying the CD to the external account.
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I've been on this website for years and I had no idea you could "rep" users, I thought that was just liking someones comment.
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02-02-2023 at 08:03 PM.
02-02-2023 at 08:03 PM.
Quote from candelabra :
treasurydirect.gov and you can get an Series I bond up to $10K that yields about 6-7% now. Google search I Bond to research that if you're interested.

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/sa...est-rates/
was this the same one that was at 9%?

i have a savings bond that was given to me years ago and i don't know what to do with it.
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02-02-2023 at 08:05 PM.
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Quote from George_P_Burdell :
which one is 5.25?
https://www.navyfederal.org/check...rates.html

Not seeing one

Problem with the Navy one is they can stop it early if the rates drop. Fine print shows:

Navy Federal reserves the right to end or modify this offer at any time.
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