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So I started to ladder T-Bills for the reasons everyone is stating in this thread. The rate is so volatile (in a good way) that locking into anything even 12 months is too long for me and rates continue to climb. I use fidelity and my suggestion is this.
When they offer the new 4 week and 8 week and 13 week t-bill (they auction on diff days and diff weeks) go in and buy one of each of them with whatever money you can spare. Let's use 5k for each.
I would buy a 4 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy an 8 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy a 13 week t-bill WITH Rollover for 5k
Then after 4 weeks when that first on comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Then after 8 weeks when the second comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Now you will have 3 13 week t-bills rolling every 4 weeks or so and rolling into a new one with the proceeds. This way every 4 weeks you are capturing an increasing rate and not locked into anything longer than 13 weeks. You benefit from the rate hikes, can cash out at any time, and you have state tax shelter from the earned interest.
I can almost guarantee that the above will yield you more net income (taking in tax break) at the end of 11months then the 5% locked CD
just my 2cents
You can buy treasuries from just about any brokerage. I use Fidelity, as I like their platform and they don't charge fees/commissions for treasuries. Fidelity Fixed Income Page[fidelity.com]
Follow the above link and scroll down to the row "U.S. Treasury." Choose the duration you want and click on it. You can then click "buy" to start a trade of a specific treasury bill/bond. Fidelity's Intro to Treasuries[fidelity.com]
This is true, but it doesn't make an 11-month CD at 5% a bad idea. Those HYS can change their rates at any time, but here you're guaranteed to get 5%.
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Agree + you build a great credit history by using credit cards wisely, that can help you get better deals on Mortgage / car loan etc..
We pay for 90% of everything we buy with a credit card, pay it off every month. Haven't paid interest on anything for 15 years. We will never need a mortgage or a car loan.
Anyone that has done this deal, is capital one holding your money for 13 days for processing? I transferred money from chase and cap1 says it will take 13 days to set up the cd
It's worth understanding when it's advantageous to buy each option. And the above site has articles that explain where it's best to buy each option (I-bonds can only be purchased at treasury direct, but others can be purchased through financial institutions, and there can be advantages to doing that.)
Figuring out your best strategy for the current environment takes a bit of your time.
As mentioned earlier, these are not subject to state tax (which can make them better than CDs in some situations), but you will pay federal tax.
You can change how often interest payments are deposited into your linked account. Is there an advantage to keeping interest in the CD instead of taking the deposit monthly? Does the interest compound within the CD, or is your interest calculated only on the initial amount?
Same thing happened to me I didnt understand what was going on until i called them and they said they only way to get your higher rate was to open a new account. I closed my account and took my money elsewhere.
Same thing happened to me. I took a LOT of money out when I found this out.
This is a good deal but Capitol One are crooks IMO.
Setting up a fidelity acct today. What days are the auctions on or link for schedule?
https://home.treasury.gov/system/...hedule.pdf
I think you have between the Announcement and Auction dates to purchase a bill that "starts" on the Settlement date. Not sure of times though.
We pay for 90% of everything we buy with a credit card, pay it off every month. Haven't paid interest on anything for 15 years. We will never need a mortgage or a car loan.
Same. And I use the points I earn for gift cards and travel.
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Anyone that has done this deal, is capital one holding your money for 13 days for processing? I transferred money from chase and cap1 says it will take 13 days to set up the cd
I bought a Cap One CD 2 weeks ago and it took 7 days for the account to go "live". I have no idea why. They had the money the day after I opened the account. I did start earning interest from the day I opened it though, not the day it went "live" online.
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When they offer the new 4 week and 8 week and 13 week t-bill (they auction on diff days and diff weeks) go in and buy one of each of them with whatever money you can spare. Let's use 5k for each.
I would buy a 4 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy an 8 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy a 13 week t-bill WITH Rollover for 5k
Then after 4 weeks when that first on comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Then after 8 weeks when the second comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Now you will have 3 13 week t-bills rolling every 4 weeks or so and rolling into a new one with the proceeds. This way every 4 weeks you are capturing an increasing rate and not locked into anything longer than 13 weeks. You benefit from the rate hikes, can cash out at any time, and you have state tax shelter from the earned interest.
I can almost guarantee that the above will yield you more net income (taking in tax break) at the end of 11months then the 5% locked CD
just my 2cents
Fidelity Fixed Income Page [fidelity.com]
Follow the above link and scroll down to the row "U.S. Treasury." Choose the duration you want and click on it. You can then click "buy" to start a trade of a specific treasury bill/bond.
Fidelity's Intro to Treasuries [fidelity.com]
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You have various options: I-bonds; TIPS, Treasury bills/notes
It's worth understanding when it's advantageous to buy each option. And the above site has articles that explain where it's best to buy each option (I-bonds can only be purchased at treasury direct, but others can be purchased through financial institutions, and there can be advantages to doing that.)
Figuring out your best strategy for the current environment takes a bit of your time.
As mentioned earlier, these are not subject to state tax (which can make them better than CDs in some situations), but you will pay federal tax.
This is a good deal but Capitol One are crooks IMO.
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Would I need to use desktop site or is it available on the app?
Rates are going up and there might not be a reduction any time soon. At least for the next couple of years, and maybe longer.
I think you have between the Announcement and Auction dates to purchase a bill that "starts" on the Settlement date. Not sure of times though.
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