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So I started to ladder T-Bills for the reasons everyone is stating in this thread. The rate is so volatile (in a good way) that locking into anything even 12 months is too long for me and rates continue to climb. I use fidelity and my suggestion is this.
When they offer the new 4 week and 8 week and 13 week t-bill (they auction on diff days and diff weeks) go in and buy one of each of them with whatever money you can spare. Let's use 5k for each.
I would buy a 4 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy an 8 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy a 13 week t-bill WITH Rollover for 5k
Then after 4 weeks when that first on comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Then after 8 weeks when the second comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Now you will have 3 13 week t-bills rolling every 4 weeks or so and rolling into a new one with the proceeds. This way every 4 weeks you are capturing an increasing rate and not locked into anything longer than 13 weeks. You benefit from the rate hikes, can cash out at any time, and you have state tax shelter from the earned interest.
I can almost guarantee that the above will yield you more net income (taking in tax break) at the end of 11months then the 5% locked CD
just my 2cents
You can buy treasuries from just about any brokerage. I use Fidelity, as I like their platform and they don't charge fees/commissions for treasuries. Fidelity Fixed Income Page[fidelity.com]
Follow the above link and scroll down to the row "U.S. Treasury." Choose the duration you want and click on it. You can then click "buy" to start a trade of a specific treasury bill/bond. Fidelity's Intro to Treasuries[fidelity.com]
This is true, but it doesn't make an 11-month CD at 5% a bad idea. Those HYS can change their rates at any time, but here you're guaranteed to get 5%.
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Saw that my CD was "opened" but was still at a $0 balance with my initial deposit in a processing state with a date of Feb 22. Called and she said that since this was my first Cap1 account, there is a 7-10 business day period while they make sure the amount isn't associated with fraud and things like that. She did say the interest would start from the day of the transfer. (yesterday for me)
A newbie question.
To prevent the penalty for early withdrawal, with 50K, can I open 5 separate CDs (10K/each) with Cap One? Just in case I need to withdraw less then 10K when my emergency fund runs out during 11 months.
Thanks.
A newbie question.
To prevent the penalty for early withdrawal, with 50K, can I open 5 separate CDs (10K/each) with Cap One? Just in case I need to withdraw less then 10K when my emergency fund runs out during 11 months.
Thanks.
You should be able to but note that you will still face an early withdrawal penalty on the 10k if you choose to break it. An alternative might be to put 40k in CD/CDs with Cap 1 and to put 10K in a high yield savings account I believe Cap1 also has one of these. While the rate will be lower than 5% in the savings account - the money is available to you when you need it. Caveat - HY Savings accounts rates are not fixed or guaranteed like a CD.
You should be able to but note that you will still face an early withdrawal penalty on the 10k if you choose to break it. An alternative might be to put 40k in CD/CDs with Cap 1 and to put 10K in a high yield savings account I believe Cap1 also has one of these. While the rate will be lower than 5% in the savings account - the money is available to you when you need it. Caveat - HY Savings accounts rates are not fixed or guaranteed like a CD.
A newbie question.
To prevent the penalty for early withdrawal, with 50K, can I open 5 separate CDs (10K/each) with Cap One? Just in case I need to withdraw less then 10K when my emergency fund runs out during 11 months.
Thanks.
A newbie question.
To prevent the penalty for early withdrawal, with 50K, can I open 5 separate CDs (10K/each) with Cap One? Just in case I need to withdraw less then 10K when my emergency fund runs out during 11 months.
Thanks.
The penalty fee is $125 for every 10k and you'll break even if you don't take out within 6 months. I think it's worth more to put 20% of your CD into savings like the other SDer said. At least you get 2% interest worry free saving which you can take out at anytime for emergency purpose.
Can you sell these T-Bills before the maturity date if you need the cash? Do you lose the entire interest rate in that case?
Yes, you can sell them, however you pay a sells commison and if interest rates are currently higher than when you purchased the t-bill, it is worth less and you probably will lose some capital, however not much. I'm talking about short duration T-Bills, you could lose much more on 5/10/30 year ones for sure.
My wife happens to be talking to their customer service. I don't know why anybody in their right mind (that includes my wife) will keep an account with them. She is on the 3rd agent and they are all clueless and just asking her to do stuff on website and directing her to links that don't exist.
My wife happens to be talking to their customer service. I don't know why anybody in their right mind (that includes my wife) will keep an account with them. She is on the 3rd agent and they are all clueless and just asking her to do stuff on website and directing her to links that don't exist.
I agree with you. They closed my CD with no explanation and when I called them they said I did not fund the account. Well when I opened the CD I provided the bank routing number, account number and they even told me that they would try two small transactions.
If they were expecting me to fund it differently shouldn't they have at least sent me an email. It was a big waste of time.
Robinhood have 4.15% with their Gold accounts ($5 per month fee) on your uninvested cash. You can cancel anytime, can invest that money anytime, no need for stupid 1980s CDs
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When they offer the new 4 week and 8 week and 13 week t-bill (they auction on diff days and diff weeks) go in and buy one of each of them with whatever money you can spare. Let's use 5k for each.
I would buy a 4 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy an 8 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy a 13 week t-bill WITH Rollover for 5k
Then after 4 weeks when that first on comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Then after 8 weeks when the second comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Now you will have 3 13 week t-bills rolling every 4 weeks or so and rolling into a new one with the proceeds. This way every 4 weeks you are capturing an increasing rate and not locked into anything longer than 13 weeks. You benefit from the rate hikes, can cash out at any time, and you have state tax shelter from the earned interest.
I can almost guarantee that the above will yield you more net income (taking in tax break) at the end of 11months then the 5% locked CD
just my 2cents
Fidelity Fixed Income Page [fidelity.com]
Follow the above link and scroll down to the row "U.S. Treasury." Choose the duration you want and click on it. You can then click "buy" to start a trade of a specific treasury bill/bond.
Fidelity's Intro to Treasuries [fidelity.com]
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BMO Harris bank is FDIC insured and giving 4.2% in savings account. Anyone has account with them?
To prevent the penalty for early withdrawal, with 50K, can I open 5 separate CDs (10K/each) with Cap One? Just in case I need to withdraw less then 10K when my emergency fund runs out during 11 months.
Thanks.
To prevent the penalty for early withdrawal, with 50K, can I open 5 separate CDs (10K/each) with Cap One? Just in case I need to withdraw less then 10K when my emergency fund runs out during 11 months.
Thanks.
To prevent the penalty for early withdrawal, with 50K, can I open 5 separate CDs (10K/each) with Cap One? Just in case I need to withdraw less then 10K when my emergency fund runs out during 11 months.
Thanks.
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The schedule is here https://www.treasurydirect.gov/au.../upcoming/ [treasurydirect.gov]
You need money in your account the day of the auction.
To prevent the penalty for early withdrawal, with 50K, can I open 5 separate CDs (10K/each) with Cap One? Just in case I need to withdraw less then 10K when my emergency fund runs out during 11 months.
Thanks.
If they were expecting me to fund it differently shouldn't they have at least sent me an email. It was a big waste of time.
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