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So I started to ladder T-Bills for the reasons everyone is stating in this thread. The rate is so volatile (in a good way) that locking into anything even 12 months is too long for me and rates continue to climb. I use fidelity and my suggestion is this.
When they offer the new 4 week and 8 week and 13 week t-bill (they auction on diff days and diff weeks) go in and buy one of each of them with whatever money you can spare. Let's use 5k for each.
I would buy a 4 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy an 8 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy a 13 week t-bill WITH Rollover for 5k
Then after 4 weeks when that first on comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Then after 8 weeks when the second comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Now you will have 3 13 week t-bills rolling every 4 weeks or so and rolling into a new one with the proceeds. This way every 4 weeks you are capturing an increasing rate and not locked into anything longer than 13 weeks. You benefit from the rate hikes, can cash out at any time, and you have state tax shelter from the earned interest.
I can almost guarantee that the above will yield you more net income (taking in tax break) at the end of 11months then the 5% locked CD
just my 2cents
You can buy treasuries from just about any brokerage. I use Fidelity, as I like their platform and they don't charge fees/commissions for treasuries. Fidelity Fixed Income Page[fidelity.com]
Follow the above link and scroll down to the row "U.S. Treasury." Choose the duration you want and click on it. You can then click "buy" to start a trade of a specific treasury bill/bond. Fidelity's Intro to Treasuries[fidelity.com]
This is true, but it doesn't make an 11-month CD at 5% a bad idea. Those HYS can change their rates at any time, but here you're guaranteed to get 5%.
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VMFXX - Vanguard Money Market fund (default fund cash sits in in a Vanguard brokerage acct) is at 4.48% APY (7 day SEC yield).
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VMFXX - Vanguard Money Market fund (default fund cash sits in in a Vanguard brokerage acct) is at 4.48% APY (7 day SEC yield).
Can deposit or withdraw at any time.
And the second the fed drops the rate that will drop with it.
Returns are always based on risk. If they are having to pay 15%, it means people aren't sure they will get their money back. Similar to "junk" bonds in the US.
Interest is based on a year, and since it is 11 months, you will get 11/12 of the 5%. 11/12 x .05 = .0458. So you will get your $5000 back plus $5000 x .0458 = 229. So you make a total of $229 profit.
Risk here is less about not getting money back and more about inflation. Investment is not in USD but local currency.
So I started to ladder T-Bills for the reasons everyone is stating in this thread. The rate is so volatile (in a good way) that locking into anything even 12 months is too long for me and rates continue to climb. I use fidelity and my suggestion is this.
When they offer the new 4 week and 8 week and 13 week t-bill (they auction on diff days and diff weeks) go in and buy one of each of them with whatever money you can spare. Let's use 5k for each.
I would buy a 4 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy an 8 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy a 13 week t-bill WITH Rollover for 5k
Then after 4 weeks when that first on comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Then after 8 weeks when the second comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Now you will have 3 13 week t-bills rolling every 4 weeks or so and rolling into a new one with the proceeds. This way every 4 weeks you are capturing an increasing rate and not locked into anything longer than 13 weeks. You benefit from the rate hikes, can cash out at any time, and you have state tax shelter from the earned interest.
I can almost guarantee that the above will yield you more net income (taking in tax break) at the end of 11months then the 5% locked CD
Long time CapOne customer and like others, I'm just realizing (after reading this thread) that I'm getting the old interest rates. Trying to open new accounts to get the highers rates but all the promo codes (FALL22, etc.) seem to have expired. Are there any new ones?
Long time CapOne customer and like others, I'm just realizing (after reading this thread) that I'm getting the old interest rates. Trying to open new accounts to get the highers rates but all the promo codes (FALL22, etc.) seem to have expired. Are there any new ones?
If you have at least $5000 to invest, you can open a savings account at eTrade and get $50 bonus. The account is FDIC-insured and currently earns 3.5% APY.
Better than nothing.
Or you can wait for a better deal. https://us.etrade.com/what-we-off...orks/promo
If you have at least $5000 to invest, you can open a savings account at eTrade and get $50 bonus. The account is FDIC-insured and currently earns 3.5% APY.
Better than nothing.
Or you can wait for a better deal. https://us.etrade.com/what-we-off...orks/promo[etrade.com]
Even better. Open 12 month brokered CD at eTrade or Fidelity and get 4.75% rate in FDIC insured account. It's lower than this CapitalOne promotion but you do not have to go through the new CapitalOne account opening. It takes seconds to place an order in eTrade or Fidelity.
Even better. Open 12 month brokered CD at eTrade or Fidelity and get 4.75% rate in FDIC insured account. It's lower than this CapitalOne promotion but you do not have to go through the new CapitalOne account opening. It takes seconds to place an order in eTrade or Fidelity.
I am guessing they don't want a CD. shrug
I am not doing CDs myself --- not when the most recent 13-week T-bill is 4.76%
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When they offer the new 4 week and 8 week and 13 week t-bill (they auction on diff days and diff weeks) go in and buy one of each of them with whatever money you can spare. Let's use 5k for each.
I would buy a 4 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy an 8 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy a 13 week t-bill WITH Rollover for 5k
Then after 4 weeks when that first on comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Then after 8 weeks when the second comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Now you will have 3 13 week t-bills rolling every 4 weeks or so and rolling into a new one with the proceeds. This way every 4 weeks you are capturing an increasing rate and not locked into anything longer than 13 weeks. You benefit from the rate hikes, can cash out at any time, and you have state tax shelter from the earned interest.
I can almost guarantee that the above will yield you more net income (taking in tax break) at the end of 11months then the 5% locked CD
just my 2cents
Fidelity Fixed Income Page [fidelity.com]
Follow the above link and scroll down to the row "U.S. Treasury." Choose the duration you want and click on it. You can then click "buy" to start a trade of a specific treasury bill/bond.
Fidelity's Intro to Treasuries [fidelity.com]
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Thank you, never would've thought to do that without you mentioning. Appreciate it!
Can deposit or withdraw at any time.
Can deposit or withdraw at any time.
Interest is based on a year, and since it is 11 months, you will get 11/12 of the 5%. 11/12 x .05 = .0458. So you will get your $5000 back plus $5000 x .0458 = 229. So you make a total of $229 profit.
Risk here is less about not getting money back and more about inflation. Investment is not in USD but local currency.
When they offer the new 4 week and 8 week and 13 week t-bill (they auction on diff days and diff weeks) go in and buy one of each of them with whatever money you can spare. Let's use 5k for each.
I would buy a 4 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy an 8 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy a 13 week t-bill WITH Rollover for 5k
Then after 4 weeks when that first on comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Then after 8 weeks when the second comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Now you will have 3 13 week t-bills rolling every 4 weeks or so and rolling into a new one with the proceeds. This way every 4 weeks you are capturing an increasing rate and not locked into anything longer than 13 weeks. You benefit from the rate hikes, can cash out at any time, and you have state tax shelter from the earned interest.
I can almost guarantee that the above will yield you more net income (taking in tax break) at the end of 11months then the 5% locked CD
just my 2cents
Will this work on fidelity?
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Where are they?
Better than nothing.
Or you can wait for a better deal.
https://us.etrade.com/what-we-off...orks/promo
Better than nothing.
Or you can wait for a better deal.
https://us.etrade.com/what-we-off...orks/promo [etrade.com]
I am not doing CDs myself --- not when the most recent 13-week T-bill is 4.76%
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The 13-week will be announced on the 9th [treasurydirect.gov].