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So I started to ladder T-Bills for the reasons everyone is stating in this thread. The rate is so volatile (in a good way) that locking into anything even 12 months is too long for me and rates continue to climb. I use fidelity and my suggestion is this.
When they offer the new 4 week and 8 week and 13 week t-bill (they auction on diff days and diff weeks) go in and buy one of each of them with whatever money you can spare. Let's use 5k for each.
I would buy a 4 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy an 8 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy a 13 week t-bill WITH Rollover for 5k
Then after 4 weeks when that first on comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Then after 8 weeks when the second comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Now you will have 3 13 week t-bills rolling every 4 weeks or so and rolling into a new one with the proceeds. This way every 4 weeks you are capturing an increasing rate and not locked into anything longer than 13 weeks. You benefit from the rate hikes, can cash out at any time, and you have state tax shelter from the earned interest.
I can almost guarantee that the above will yield you more net income (taking in tax break) at the end of 11months then the 5% locked CD
just my 2cents
You can buy treasuries from just about any brokerage. I use Fidelity, as I like their platform and they don't charge fees/commissions for treasuries. Fidelity Fixed Income Page[fidelity.com]
Follow the above link and scroll down to the row "U.S. Treasury." Choose the duration you want and click on it. You can then click "buy" to start a trade of a specific treasury bill/bond. Fidelity's Intro to Treasuries[fidelity.com]
This is true, but it doesn't make an 11-month CD at 5% a bad idea. Those HYS can change their rates at any time, but here you're guaranteed to get 5%.
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as you read cpi reports its 99% confirmed inflation is still extremely high I frequent costco and discount stores so I know they are raising prices on essential goods by 10-20% already.
This means inflation up.
they tanked oil prices without dropping gas prices by that much.
oil may need to go below 50 dollars if they want to decrease inflation further.
otherwise food inflation and rent inflation are too high.
wages need to go up another 20%
Oh, I don't disagree with your assessment one bit. I've been protecting my assets for the past 1.5 yrs and modified my behaviors and spends accordingly as well. I just took a severance package from my employer of nearly 17 years to take a year off (minimum, if not permanently) and enjoy life as it was a solid offer and I knew what I was going to get instead of fearing the unknown. My last day was barely 2 weeks ago and it's already one of the best decisions of my life as I just turned 46 and am going to travel extensively, enjoying the outdoors and simplifying my life.
Oh, I don't disagree with your assessment one bit. I've been protecting my assets for the past 1.5 yrs and modified my behaviors and spends accordingly as well. I just took a severance package from my employer of nearly 17 years to take a year off (minimum, if not permanently) and enjoy life as it was a solid offer and I knew what I was going to get instead of fearing the unknown. My last day was barely 2 weeks ago and it's already one of the best decisions of my life as I just turned 46 and am going to travel extensively, enjoying the outdoors and simplifying my life.
yes this is fine. IMO if you don't own property right now or have kids.
you can even forgo rent.
if a guy just van life explore etc and save as much rent money as you can
Car dealers are also going bankrupt.
wait to buy anything try your best to fix them.
if you do want to settle down the markets are going to have to come back to common sense.
so you can used the saved rent money to buy land invest etc and not deal with it anymore.
The inflation bonds were still the best deal imo its safe for the next 3-4 years. inflation isn't coming down.
but they don't pay higher than inflation.
a million dollars at 6-10% is 60k-100k.
more than enough. The highest cost is really rent. afterwards food/energy/medicine.
Take care of yourself if you want to minimize medical costs.
Everything else in the economy does not matter we do not need to buy apple/macs luxury goods.
Also unless wages pay at least rent there is no reason to work.
It's basically slavery if rent/property values is higher than work produced or generated.
IMO one should invest in DIY skills and cut out all other parties unless necessary.
ALSO These CDS are mainly for those that do not know how to use treasury direct and other platforms.
Educate yourself and be your own bank!
Definitely do not trust investment advice from media or banks.
Surprised no one's mentioned this (or maybe I missed it), but CD accounts only give you interest on the principal. You won't get interest on your interest. So the 5% Capital One 11-month CD is probably closer to 4.9% than it is to 5%.
Small difference, but still worth keeping in mind.
Surprised no one's mentioned this (or maybe I missed it), but CD accounts only give you interest on the principal. You won't get interest on your interest. So the 5% Capital One 11-month CD is probably closer to 4.9% than it is to 5%.
Small difference, but still worth keeping in mind.
The APY has to be accurate, how the interest accrues can vary, it will be in the terms somewhere
Surprised no one's mentioned this (or maybe I missed it), but CD accounts only give you interest on the principal. You won't get interest on your interest. So the 5% Capital One 11-month CD is probably closer to 4.9% than it is to 5%.
Small difference, but still worth keeping in mind.
APY is what matters because that's what you get at the end of the period. How you get there is irrelevant.
To me it sounded like C1 CD earns interest daily and compounded monthly.
I live in a state with no income tax, South Dakota. Am I missing something other than the ability to re-invest every 4,8,17 weeks if rates go up to go the T-Bill route vs this 11month CD??
yes this is fine. IMO if you don't own property right now or have kids.
you can even forgo rent.
if a guy just van life explore etc and save as much rent money as you can
Car dealers are also going bankrupt.
wait to buy anything try your best to fix them.
if you do want to settle down the markets are going to have to come back to common sense.
so you can used the saved rent money to buy land invest etc and not deal with it anymore.
The inflation bonds were still the best deal imo its safe for the next 3-4 years. inflation isn't coming down.
but they don't pay higher than inflation.
a million dollars at 6-10% is 60k-100k.
more than enough. The highest cost is really rent. afterwards food/energy/medicine.
Take care of yourself if you want to minimize medical costs.
Everything else in the economy does not matter we do not need to buy apple/macs luxury goods.
Also unless wages pay at least rent there is no reason to work.
It's basically slavery if rent/property values is higher than work produced or generated.
IMO one should invest in DIY skills and cut out all other parties unless necessary.
ALSO These CDS are mainly for those that do not know how to use treasury direct and other platforms.
Educate yourself and be your own bank!
Definitely do not trust investment advice from media or banks.
We are 100% on the same page.
I've been procuring I-Bonds since Q4 '21.
I have absolutely zero debt, have been mortgage free since 2013, own a reliable vehicle 100%, and am a credit card/bank bonus churning whore.
Each trip I take won't be any longer than ~5 wks, for that's the longest I can tolerate being away from "home."
Just this morning, I opened up an account with CFG Bank that'll pay me 4.55% APY on $250k (remaining savings are in an account at 4.2% APY).
I do have some $ in the stock market that I'm toying around with, but otherwise, I am so incredibly risk adverse it's not even funny.
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When they offer the new 4 week and 8 week and 13 week t-bill (they auction on diff days and diff weeks) go in and buy one of each of them with whatever money you can spare. Let's use 5k for each.
I would buy a 4 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy an 8 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy a 13 week t-bill WITH Rollover for 5k
Then after 4 weeks when that first on comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Then after 8 weeks when the second comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Now you will have 3 13 week t-bills rolling every 4 weeks or so and rolling into a new one with the proceeds. This way every 4 weeks you are capturing an increasing rate and not locked into anything longer than 13 weeks. You benefit from the rate hikes, can cash out at any time, and you have state tax shelter from the earned interest.
I can almost guarantee that the above will yield you more net income (taking in tax break) at the end of 11months then the 5% locked CD
just my 2cents
Fidelity Fixed Income Page [fidelity.com]
Follow the above link and scroll down to the row "U.S. Treasury." Choose the duration you want and click on it. You can then click "buy" to start a trade of a specific treasury bill/bond.
Fidelity's Intro to Treasuries [fidelity.com]
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This means inflation up.
they tanked oil prices without dropping gas prices by that much.
oil may need to go below 50 dollars if they want to decrease inflation further.
otherwise food inflation and rent inflation are too high.
wages need to go up another 20%
Can I buy these t-bills using my Roth IRA account or do we need a normal trading account with fidelity..and will I be able to take money out?
you can even forgo rent.
if a guy just van life explore etc and save as much rent money as you can
Car dealers are also going bankrupt.
wait to buy anything try your best to fix them.
if you do want to settle down the markets are going to have to come back to common sense.
so you can used the saved rent money to buy land invest etc and not deal with it anymore.
The inflation bonds were still the best deal imo its safe for the next 3-4 years. inflation isn't coming down.
but they don't pay higher than inflation.
a million dollars at 6-10% is 60k-100k.
more than enough. The highest cost is really rent. afterwards food/energy/medicine.
Take care of yourself if you want to minimize medical costs.
Everything else in the economy does not matter we do not need to buy apple/macs luxury goods.
Also unless wages pay at least rent there is no reason to work.
It's basically slavery if rent/property values is higher than work produced or generated.
IMO one should invest in DIY skills and cut out all other parties unless necessary.
ALSO These CDS are mainly for those that do not know how to use treasury direct and other platforms.
Educate yourself and be your own bank!
Definitely do not trust investment advice from media or banks.
Small difference, but still worth keeping in mind.
Small difference, but still worth keeping in mind.
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Stocks belong in IRAs.
Bonds belong in taxable accounts.
Small difference, but still worth keeping in mind.
I live in a state with no income tax, South Dakota. Am I missing something other than the ability to re-invest every 4,8,17 weeks if rates go up to go the T-Bill route vs this 11month CD??
Stocks belong in IRAs.
Bonds belong in taxable accounts.
So what kind of account we need at fidelity from which we can buy these?
you can even forgo rent.
if a guy just van life explore etc and save as much rent money as you can
Car dealers are also going bankrupt.
wait to buy anything try your best to fix them.
if you do want to settle down the markets are going to have to come back to common sense.
so you can used the saved rent money to buy land invest etc and not deal with it anymore.
The inflation bonds were still the best deal imo its safe for the next 3-4 years. inflation isn't coming down.
but they don't pay higher than inflation.
a million dollars at 6-10% is 60k-100k.
more than enough. The highest cost is really rent. afterwards food/energy/medicine.
Take care of yourself if you want to minimize medical costs.
Everything else in the economy does not matter we do not need to buy apple/macs luxury goods.
Also unless wages pay at least rent there is no reason to work.
It's basically slavery if rent/property values is higher than work produced or generated.
IMO one should invest in DIY skills and cut out all other parties unless necessary.
ALSO These CDS are mainly for those that do not know how to use treasury direct and other platforms.
Educate yourself and be your own bank!
Definitely do not trust investment advice from media or banks.
I've been procuring I-Bonds since Q4 '21.
I have absolutely zero debt, have been mortgage free since 2013, own a reliable vehicle 100%, and am a credit card/bank bonus churning whore.
Each trip I take won't be any longer than ~5 wks, for that's the longest I can tolerate being away from "home."
Just this morning, I opened up an account with CFG Bank that'll pay me 4.55% APY on $250k (remaining savings are in an account at 4.2% APY).
I do have some $ in the stock market that I'm toying around with, but otherwise, I am so incredibly risk adverse it's not even funny.
Thank you for the wise words and encouragement!
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