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So I started to ladder T-Bills for the reasons everyone is stating in this thread. The rate is so volatile (in a good way) that locking into anything even 12 months is too long for me and rates continue to climb. I use fidelity and my suggestion is this.

When they offer the new 4 week and 8 week and 13 week t-bill (they auction on diff days and diff weeks) go in and buy one of each of them with whatever money you can spare. Let's use 5k for each.

I would buy a 4 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy an 8 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy a 13 week t-bill WITH Rollover for 5k

Then after 4 weeks when that first on comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Then after 8 weeks when the second comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.

Now you will have 3 13 week t-bills rolling every 4 weeks or so and rolling into a new one with the proceeds. This way every 4 weeks you are capturing an increasing rate and not locked into anything longer than 13 weeks. You benefit from the rate hikes, can cash out at any time, and you have state tax shelter from the earned interest.

I can almost guarantee that the above will yield you more net income (taking in tax break) at the end of 11months then the 5% locked CD

just my 2cents
You can buy treasuries from just about any brokerage. I use Fidelity, as I like their platform and they don't charge fees/commissions for treasuries.
Fidelity Fixed Income Page [fidelity.com]
Follow the above link and scroll down to the row "U.S. Treasury." Choose the duration you want and click on it. You can then click "buy" to start a trade of a specific treasury bill/bond.
Fidelity's Intro to Treasuries [fidelity.com]
This is true, but it doesn't make an 11-month CD at 5% a bad idea. Those HYS can change their rates at any time, but here you're guaranteed to get 5%.

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JollyReward108
02-25-2023 at 05:47 AM.
02-25-2023 at 05:47 AM.
Quote from Bwoell :
CapitalOne 360 Savings account is currently 3.4%.

It's annoying but you need to open a new performance 360 savings accounts and transfer the funds from your old account into the new one.
I like the Synchrony 3.75% more.
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2cheap2eat
02-25-2023 at 06:53 AM.
02-25-2023 at 06:53 AM.
Goldman Sachs Marcus savings is 3.75 APR now. Pretty easy to use app too.
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ek9cusco
02-25-2023 at 08:54 AM.
02-25-2023 at 08:54 AM.
Quote from g2181 :
Awesome ! If u dont mind....What kind of work do u do that makes 670k a yr ? Looking for some inspiration here !

Same… I'd like to know as well. Need some inspiration
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sknick
02-25-2023 at 09:34 AM.
02-25-2023 at 09:34 AM.
Quote from VNlilMAN :
Ally is 5% for 18 months.
Also fyi for those touting ibonds. The next projected rate is like 2.5% or something like that. 6.9% (whatever we're at) + 2.5% divided by 2 = approx 4.7% interest for 1 year.
ibonds are still ok, but not sure bet it used to be a year ago.

Also have to factor in the 3 month penalty you're required to take on the I-Bonds to cash them in. There are 3 months of zero return tacked onto the end. You have to go to 15 months & take a 3 month penalty to cash them in.
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nyc10036
02-25-2023 at 09:39 AM.
02-25-2023 at 09:39 AM.
Quote from VNlilMAN :
Ally is 5% for 18 months.
Also fyi for those touting ibonds. The next projected rate is like 2.5% or something like that. 6.9% (whatever we're at) + 2.5% divided by 2 = approx 4.7% interest for 1 year.
ibonds are still ok, but not sure bet it used to be a year ago.
I am waiting until after April 12 to see if iBonds make sense.

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kcobra1
02-25-2023 at 10:16 AM.
02-25-2023 at 10:16 AM.
Quote from pyrotalk :
Folks

Whats the CUSIP number for the 4 week T-bills at Fidelity? i only see 3, 6, 12 months.
Do we get a better yield by buying T-bills with coupon?

thx
https://treasurydirect.gov/auctio...a-results/
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nyc10036
02-25-2023 at 10:20 AM.
02-25-2023 at 10:20 AM.
Quote from pyrotalk :
Folks

Whats the CUSIP number for the 4 week T-bills at Fidelity? i only see 3, 6, 12 months.
Do we get a better yield by buying T-bills with coupon?

thx
upcoming auctions https://treasurydirect.gov/auctions/upcoming/
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MellowTent390
02-25-2023 at 11:41 AM.
02-25-2023 at 11:41 AM.
Quote from mblock66 :
So I started to ladder T-Bills for the reasons everyone is stating in this thread. The rate is so volatile (in a good way) that locking into anything even 12 months is too long for me and rates continue to climb. I use fidelity and my suggestion is this.

When they offer the new 4 week and 8 week and 13 week t-bill (they auction on diff days and diff weeks) go in and buy one of each of them with whatever money you can spare. Let's use 5k for each.

I would buy a 4 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy an 8 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy a 13 week t-bill WITH Rollover for 5k

Then after 4 weeks when that first on comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Then after 8 weeks when the second comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.

Now you will have 3 13 week t-bills rolling every 4 weeks or so and rolling into a new one with the proceeds. This way every 4 weeks you are capturing an increasing rate and not locked into anything longer than 13 weeks. You benefit from the rate hikes, can cash out at any time, and you have state tax shelter from the earned interest.

I can almost guarantee that the above will yield you more net income (taking in tax break) at the end of 11months then the 5% locked CD

just my 2cents

What are your thoughts/concerns about the debt ceiling deadlock and the impact it might have on Treasury's?
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bmwkbiker
02-25-2023 at 12:13 PM.
02-25-2023 at 12:13 PM.
Quote from MellowTent390 :
What are your thoughts/concerns about the debt ceiling deadlock and the impact it might have on Treasury's?
No concerns, No impact...

If the US government defaults on its debit, nothing is safe.
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tjones261
02-25-2023 at 01:11 PM.
02-25-2023 at 01:11 PM.
Quote from bmwkbiker :
No concerns, No impact...

If the US government defaults on its debit, nothing is safe.
The debt ceiling is OUR own invention. Only one other country has one because ALL the others have found it unnecessary. In any case the current grownups in charge has several workarounds IF the current anarchists continue to push a red/blue civil war and other silly stupidity.
Bonds will remain a safe investment.
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trojax
02-26-2023 at 09:39 AM.
02-26-2023 at 09:39 AM.
Quote from nyc10036 :
a regular account , not a Roth IRA

this webpage explains it https://www.wallstreetphysician.c...-roth-ira/
You can buy T Bills on ROTH account. How did I know? Because I just bought them on last auction. Better than loosing 10-20-30% from stocks.
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trojax
02-26-2023 at 09:45 AM.
02-26-2023 at 09:45 AM.
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Oh, I don't disagree with your assessment one bit. I've been protecting my assets for the past 1.5 yrs and modified my behaviors and spends accordingly as well. I just took a severance package from my employer of nearly 17 years to take a year off (minimum, if not permanently) and enjoy life as it was a solid offer and I knew what I was going to get instead of fearing the unknown. My last day was barely 2 weeks ago and it's already one of the best decisions of my life as I just turned 46 and am going to travel extensively, enjoying the outdoors and simplifying my life.
You forgot one thing. Money does runs out as well as your body and possibly mental degradation from having lack of purpose. Where in USA means, your money will be zeroed out by Pharma Bros. If Wall Street doesn't get you, someone else will.
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nyc10036
02-26-2023 at 10:36 AM.
02-26-2023 at 10:36 AM.
Quote from trojax :
You can buy T Bills on ROTH account. How did I know? Because I just bought them on last auction. Better than loosing 10-20-30% from stocks.
I didn't say you can't.
I said it is not the optimal place to put them when saving for retirement.

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MordyNYC
02-26-2023 at 11:40 AM.
02-26-2023 at 11:40 AM.
Stupid deal.
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trojax
02-26-2023 at 11:47 AM.
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Quote from nyc10036 :
I didn't say you can't.
I said it is not the optimal place to put them when saving for retirement.
I agree it's not optimal for long term (assuming the market is normal) but with the current situation, I think it's better than loosing your bet.
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