Marantz SR5015 7.2-Ch 8K Home Theater A/V Receiver w/ Dolby Atmos & HEOS Expired

No audyssey xt32

Need the denon x3700h to go below 1k

I agree. The x3700h is the one to grab (only one 8k in though), but the price is prohibitive.

No audyssey xt32

Need the denon x3700h to go below 1k

3700h is engineered with substandard parts and QC. I had one for 60 days and didn't have a single hesitation returning it… just not worth it. Don't take my word for it, we all like things for different reasons, just make sure you buy from somewhere that has a good return policy

You didn't say what made you return. Was the unit defective? Didn't do what the manual said it'd do? The audio quality wasn't good? All the reviews available on the internet (here [audiosciencereview.com] is a detailed one) as well as the owners' thread on AVS would disagree with you.

For the record, I don't have one and no first hand experience.

I honestly left out the details on purpose because it sometimes leads to pointless know-it-all AV banter on here that I can't stand… but since you asked, ultimately, I couldn't get good sound from it despite a lot of effort. The stage was off and just couldn't be dialed in. Compared to my Yamaha rx1900, the center was VERY weak even with raised levels. This made it feel under powered even though it has plenty of power. I went through multiple tests of varied #s of days and even had my wife swap secretly swap between the denon and yamaha and I recognized the difference and felt it was substantially worse every single time. She even swapped it 3 times in one day, determined to throw me off and I still picked up on it immediately both with music and movies each time within minutes. And to be clear, it wasn't just that it was different, it was irritatingly worse. Despite initially believing I was just recognizing the difference she eventually said she could tell there was a lack of clarity with the Denon. We dont put subtitles on often, but had to several times. In summary, the easiest way to put it is to say it sounded cheap. I have another Yamaha in the basement… forget the model #, but it was probably a $400 receiver MSRP and the Denon was certainly better than that, but not by that much. My unit was one of the initial batch with the hdmi bug, so maybe they got better, or maybe I had a lemon. I spent about an hour talking to denon and crutchfield support (they were both really great) and offered a few different things to try, which did change things, but ultimately NOT for the better. This probably isn't too helpful, but there you go.

I honestly left out the details on purpose because it sometimes leads to pointless know-it-all AV banter on here that I can't stand… but since you asked, ultimately, I couldn't get good sound from it despite a lot of effort. The stage was off and just couldn't be dialed in. Compared to my Yamaha rx1900, the center was VERY weak even with raised levels. This made it feel under powered even though it has plenty of power. I went through multiple tests of varied #s of days and even had my wife swap secretly swap between the denon and yamaha and I recognized the difference and felt it was substantially worse every single time. She even swapped it 3 times in one day, determined to throw me off and I still picked up on it immediately both with music and movies each time within minutes. And to be clear, it wasn't just that it was different, it was irritatingly worse. Despite initially believing I was just recognizing the difference she eventually said she could tell there was a lack of clarity with the Denon. We dont put subtitles on often, but had to several times. In summary, the easiest way to put it is to say it sounded cheap. I have another Yamaha in the basement… forget the model #, but it was probably a $400 receiver MSRP and the Denon was certainly better than that, but not by that much. My unit was one of the initial batch with the hdmi bug, so maybe they got better, or maybe I had a lemon. I spent about an hour talking to denon and crutchfield support (they were both really great) and offered a few different things to try, which did change things, but ultimately NOT for the better. This probably isn't too helpful, but there you go.

I honestly left out the details on purpose because it sometimes leads to pointless know-it-all AV banter on here that I can't stand… but since you asked, ultimately, I couldn't get good sound from it despite a lot of effort. The stage was off and just couldn't be dialed in. Compared to my Yamaha rx1900, the center was VERY weak even with raised levels. This made it feel under powered even though it has plenty of power. I went through multiple tests of varied #s of days and even had my wife swap secretly swap between the denon and yamaha and I recognized the difference and felt it was substantially worse every single time. She even swapped it 3 times in one day, determined to throw me off and I still picked up on it immediately both with music and movies each time within minutes. And to be clear, it wasn't just that it was different, it was irritatingly worse. Despite initially believing I was just recognizing the difference she eventually said she could tell there was a lack of clarity with the Denon. We dont put subtitles on often, but had to several times. In summary, the easiest way to put it is to say it sounded cheap. I have another Yamaha in the basement… forget the model #, but it was probably a $400 receiver MSRP and the Denon was certainly better than that, but not by that much. My unit was one of the initial batch with the hdmi bug, so maybe they got better, or maybe I had a lemon. I spent about an hour talking to denon and crutchfield support (they were both really great) and offered a few different things to try, which did change things, but ultimately NOT for the better. This probably isn't too helpful, but there you go.

3700h is engineered with substandard parts and QC. I had one for 60 days and didn't have a single hesitation returning it… just not worth it. Don't take my word for it, we all like things for different reasons, just make sure you buy from somewhere that has a good return policy