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Server Part Deals has 18TB Seagate Exos X18 7200RPM 3.5" Internal Enterprise Hard Drive (Manufacturer Recertified, ST18000NM000J) for $189.99. Shipping is free.
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A few months ago I made my first purchase from this website, based off glowing reviews from the commenters. Oddly enough, my first purchase was a bad hard drive! (Or maybe not odd and people here are just getting really lucky?) Inserting the hard drive just kept rebooting my system, and they told me to return it. The return process was really easy, however, and they really stood by their product. I felt confident enough that I got another hard drive after that incident and the new one has been working flawlessly.
Update the title: not MFG warranty, it is through the retailer.
That's the return process, not the warranty. They sell two types.. One with mfg warranty and one with their in house warranty. I have numerous of this drive and they are all registered with Seagate and have a warranty through them.
I thought I was basing that on Backblaze stats but after reviewing their 2022 report it's clear I was wrong. I apologize for that and have edited my comment.
Assuming you back things up properly, Exos may still be worth it. I switched from Ultrastars to Exos because they've cost so much less that it seems unlikely Ultrastar reliability could ever make up the difference, even after any required replacements (in a large enough drive population). I could be wrong and will be looking for deals on Ultrastars from now on as well.
It's always lovely to see people open to new information.
Backing up is essential. It's why I bought the Exos drives. I started getting a little nervous about having all my data on the same-ish type of drives, even if they've been flawless so far. One thing that puzzles me is that everyone brings up these deals on the Exos drives but rarely mentions that this seller has Ultrastars for relatively similar prices.
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How many hours of use do these drives typically have on them?
I bought a 4tb recently (not from this seller) and it had 66,000 hours on it
No one knows. The SMART data will be wiped. The only thing you really have to go on is the manufacture date.
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If it's Windows - Macrium Free or FreeFileSync would probably be my recommendations. But it depends what you're trying to do.
If it's only 4TB and for non-personal use, I'd be tempted to do cloud backup via iDrive or something.
FreeFileSync is an amazing program. It can take awhile to get a hang of but it's incredibly powerful.
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I run several drives from ServerPartDeals in my Synology. Still a little miffed about having to pay return shipping when I had one start showing worrying signs at 31 days (so barely outside of DOA range) , but by self-advance-shipping (by buying another and sending it overnight, then just getting a refund for my dead drive) it all worked out. SPD refunded my suspect drive, no questions asked.
Maybe it's bad strategy (or maybe it's good strategy..), but I run a mixture of drive brands/series, based on what's on sale at the time. As long as they're in the same class of product and drive speed. I have a few WD red Pros, one WD Datacenter HC, and two Seagate Exos drives.
I learned long ago that it's a bad idea to put all your eggs in one basket. If you end up with a flawed line/model/batch you can end up with numerous failures in a short period of time. I try to use a variety of different hardware.
That's the return process, not the warranty. They sell two types.. One with mfg warranty and one with their in house warranty. I have numerous of this drive and they are all registered with Seagate and have a warranty through them.
The manufacturer recertified drives DO NOT have a warranty through Seagate. I checked both of mine. Their site even states that the warranty is through the seller.
Anyone use these for surveillance applications ie an NVR?
Anyone? I got a new Lorex NVR and have been waiting on a deal on some purple drives. However, this looks promising as some of the marketing list its uses as a surveillance drive. Thanks!
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What is the lifespan of a Seagate external hard drive?
It is common to see MTBF ratings between 300,000 to 1,200,000 hours for hard disk drive mechanisms, which might lead one to conclude that the specification promises between 30 and 120 years of continuous
You lost me when you started using Jargon (double blind) that is intended to compensate for human bias and not relevant to the discussion.
The list of irrelevant jargons was the sarcasm. I could come up with more.
We don't have people who are simultaneously rich, geeky and bored enough to do an air-tight study that leaves no room for you to doubt. It's just not economic to do this for a youtube video and academics aren't interested in something with low science content. There's only anecdotes from user experience. Live with it.
Did you notice a lot fewer people b*tch about data loss under WD/HGST threads yet Seagate drives there's always a bunch of people with their anecdotes of their history of failed Seagate drives who can't wait to share their experience?
Data loss is a painful experience. It takes at least 2 decades to forget a few years of shitty drives a brand made. HGST learned their lessons with Deskstar/Deathstar. Even with the anecdotal stats from BackBlaze, As of 2020s, Seagate drives in their report are roughly 3 times more likely to fail than HGST and that's in a temperature controlled server room/rack, not consumer environments that's less controlled.
The list of irrelevant jargons was the sarcasm. I could come up with more.
We don't have people who are simultaneously rich, geeky and bored enough to do an air-tight study that leaves no room for you to doubt. It's just not economic to do this for a youtube video and academics aren't interested in something with low science content. There's only anecdotes from user experience. Live with it.
Did you notice a lot fewer people b*tch about data loss under WD/HGST threads yet Seagate drives there's always a bunch of people with their anecdotes of their history of failed Seagate drives who can't wait to share their experience?
Data loss is a painful experience. It takes at least 2 decades to forget a few years of shitty drives a brand made. HGST learned their lessons with Deskstar/Deathstar. Even with the anecdotal stats from BackBlaze, As of 2020s, Seagate drives in their report are roughly 3 times more likely to fail than HGST and that's in a temperature controlled server room/rack, not consumer environments that's less controlled.
Well you are right. Seagate should be out of business within a couple years I reckon. Should probably short their stock.
Well you are right. Seagate should be out of business within a couple years I reckon. Should probably short their stock.
Any chance you owned Seagate stock so you're emotionally invested in it? I don't own stocks in hard drive businesses. Nobody can buy Seagate from anti-trust laws as we are practically down to 2 after HGST is bought by WD.
Good to have Seagate to exist to compete on the price, but I'm not touching their drives with a 10 foot pole unless they are 5 times cheaper so I can clone the data 3 times. I have to account for the extra cost for electricity and the extra 2 sata ports + controllers and a computer to handle the data duplication.
Any chance you owned Seagate stock so you're emotionally invested in it? I don't own stocks in hard drive businesses. Nobody can buy Seagate from anti-trust laws as we are practically down to 2 after HGST is bought by WD.
Good to have Seagate to exist to compete on the price, but I'm not touching their drives with a 10 foot pole unless they are 5 times cheaper so I can clone the data 3 times. I have to account for the extra cost for electricity and the extra 2 sata ports + controllers and a computer to handle the data duplication.
No need to accuse someone of being a company shill because your arguments are otherwise weak.
Seriously, you do you man. I also had 5 3TB seagate drives that all died. I also had bad maxtors and we all remember the deathstars. I just choose to separate my personal past experiences from what my expectations are of the future. There is nothing wrong with holding a grudge against them.
It's still a good deal and likely a good drive, and for the same price I'd buy a WD instead as well.
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No need to accuse someone of being a company shill because your arguments are otherwise weak.
Seriously, you do you man. I also had 5 3TB seagate drives that all died. I also had bad maxtors and we all remember the deathstars. I just choose to separate my personal past experiences from what my expectations are of the future. There is nothing wrong with holding a grudge against them.
It's still a good deal and likely a good drive, and for the same price I'd buy a WD instead as well.
Fair enough. Not accusing you for being a shill, but when you mentioned shorting Seagate's stock, I feel like you are emotionally invested in defending Seagate. My experiences with Seagate ended 7 years ago when I stopped buying their drives no matter how tempting the prices are.
If a company has a long rap sheet, not a chance I'm going to give it the benefit of the doubt until they've positively proved that they've redeemed themselves. When you get burned 5+ times by the same company over a span of 20 years, each time hoping they'd do better (well, the discounts from Seagate were tempting) the next time round, the grudge is immense.
Your anecdotal experience matches mine and many others, so their failures are by no means flukes. "Fool me once, ..." and you know the rest.
The BackBlaze report isn't helping either as it shows Seagate by 2020 still hasn't learned their lesson and they still haven't got their reliability to match its competition. I'm not giving a brand an excuse if their drives are consistently 3 times less reliable and it's not over a small sample like 30 drives so the number is likely be a fluke.
To me, a 40% discount is not enough for me to choose Seagate over WD. It's just wishful thinking to assume Seagate is just as good. Between buying two WD drives and 3 Segates to mirror, I'd pick 2 WD drives at anytime as there's less heat and one less SATA port to deal with.
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I bought a 4tb recently (not from this seller) and it had 66,000 hours on it
Assuming you back things up properly, Exos may still be worth it. I switched from Ultrastars to Exos because they've cost so much less that it seems unlikely Ultrastar reliability could ever make up the difference, even after any required replacements (in a large enough drive population). I could be wrong and will be looking for deals on Ultrastars from now on as well.
Backing up is essential. It's why I bought the Exos drives. I started getting a little nervous about having all my data on the same-ish type of drives, even if they've been flawless so far. One thing that puzzles me is that everyone brings up these deals on the Exos drives but rarely mentions that this seller has Ultrastars for relatively similar prices.
I bought a 4tb recently (not from this seller) and it had 66,000 hours on it
If it's only 4TB and for non-personal use, I'd be tempted to do cloud backup via iDrive or something.
Maybe it's bad strategy (or maybe it's good strategy..), but I run a mixture of drive brands/series, based on what's on sale at the time. As long as they're in the same class of product and drive speed. I have a few WD red Pros, one WD Datacenter HC, and two Seagate Exos drives.
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It is common to see MTBF ratings between 300,000 to 1,200,000 hours for hard disk drive mechanisms, which might lead one to conclude that the specification promises between 30 and 120 years of continuous
2 parity never had an issue with unraid server
We don't have people who are simultaneously rich, geeky and bored enough to do an air-tight study that leaves no room for you to doubt. It's just not economic to do this for a youtube video and academics aren't interested in something with low science content. There's only anecdotes from user experience. Live with it.
Did you notice a lot fewer people b*tch about data loss under WD/HGST threads yet Seagate drives there's always a bunch of people with their anecdotes of their history of failed Seagate drives who can't wait to share their experience?
Data loss is a painful experience. It takes at least 2 decades to forget a few years of shitty drives a brand made. HGST learned their lessons with Deskstar/Deathstar. Even with the anecdotal stats from BackBlaze, As of 2020s, Seagate drives in their report are roughly 3 times more likely to fail than HGST and that's in a temperature controlled server room/rack, not consumer environments that's less controlled.
We don't have people who are simultaneously rich, geeky and bored enough to do an air-tight study that leaves no room for you to doubt. It's just not economic to do this for a youtube video and academics aren't interested in something with low science content. There's only anecdotes from user experience. Live with it.
Did you notice a lot fewer people b*tch about data loss under WD/HGST threads yet Seagate drives there's always a bunch of people with their anecdotes of their history of failed Seagate drives who can't wait to share their experience?
Data loss is a painful experience. It takes at least 2 decades to forget a few years of shitty drives a brand made. HGST learned their lessons with Deskstar/Deathstar. Even with the anecdotal stats from BackBlaze, As of 2020s, Seagate drives in their report are roughly 3 times more likely to fail than HGST and that's in a temperature controlled server room/rack, not consumer environments that's less controlled.
Good to have Seagate to exist to compete on the price, but I'm not touching their drives with a 10 foot pole unless they are 5 times cheaper so I can clone the data 3 times. I have to account for the extra cost for electricity and the extra 2 sata ports + controllers and a computer to handle the data duplication.
Good to have Seagate to exist to compete on the price, but I'm not touching their drives with a 10 foot pole unless they are 5 times cheaper so I can clone the data 3 times. I have to account for the extra cost for electricity and the extra 2 sata ports + controllers and a computer to handle the data duplication.
Seriously, you do you man. I also had 5 3TB seagate drives that all died. I also had bad maxtors and we all remember the deathstars. I just choose to separate my personal past experiences from what my expectations are of the future. There is nothing wrong with holding a grudge against them.
It's still a good deal and likely a good drive, and for the same price I'd buy a WD instead as well.
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Seriously, you do you man. I also had 5 3TB seagate drives that all died. I also had bad maxtors and we all remember the deathstars. I just choose to separate my personal past experiences from what my expectations are of the future. There is nothing wrong with holding a grudge against them.
It's still a good deal and likely a good drive, and for the same price I'd buy a WD instead as well.
If a company has a long rap sheet, not a chance I'm going to give it the benefit of the doubt until they've positively proved that they've redeemed themselves. When you get burned 5+ times by the same company over a span of 20 years, each time hoping they'd do better (well, the discounts from Seagate were tempting) the next time round, the grudge is immense.
Your anecdotal experience matches mine and many others, so their failures are by no means flukes. "Fool me once, ..." and you know the rest.
The BackBlaze report isn't helping either as it shows Seagate by 2020 still hasn't learned their lesson and they still haven't got their reliability to match its competition. I'm not giving a brand an excuse if their drives are consistently 3 times less reliable and it's not over a small sample like 30 drives so the number is likely be a fluke.
To me, a 40% discount is not enough for me to choose Seagate over WD. It's just wishful thinking to assume Seagate is just as good. Between buying two WD drives and 3 Segates to mirror, I'd pick 2 WD drives at anytime as there's less heat and one less SATA port to deal with.
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