PSA: Amex Gold SUB 90,000 MR Points + $200 Statement Credit with Referral $250
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Amex is offering an all time high 90,000 MR points + $200 statement credit bonus on it's Gold card (similarly, Amex Plat has 150K MR points + 200 statement credit).
If you know someone with Amex Gold card, it's worth checking but please do so off forum. Card has a $250 annual fee. You can check other benefits from the link below.
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thanks for the suggestion, i can meet the 6k spend, but the $695 annual fee is not appealing
The AF is profitable if you plan to travel anytime in the next several years (You can double dip the $200 airline credit for United future travel so $400 right there for example....If you plan to travel in the next 2 years then 200-400 more in hotel credit-- then regardless of travel another >$200 in Uber credits (you ought be able to get at least 13 months worth for one annual fee)...There's also $169 in Walmart+ credits and $378 in CLEAR credits possible with a single annual fee, and $200-400 in hotel credits.... (not gonna list the equinox one as that's super super niche).
Plus of course you get 100,000 MR points for the signup in the first place- worth $1100 as cash, plus the value of the higher cash redemption of your OTHER amex points. So pretty trivially profitable even if you use NONE of the credits, and much more profitable if you can use any of em.
The AF is profitable if you plan to travel anytime in the next several years (You can double dip the $200 airline credit for United future travel so $400 right there for example....If you plan to travel in the next 2 years then 200-400 more in hotel credit-- then regardless of travel another >$200 in Uber credits (you ought be able to get at least 13 months worth for one annual fee)...There's also $169 in Walmart+ credits and $378 in CLEAR credits possible with a single annual fee, and $200-400 in hotel credits.... (not gonna list the equinox one as that's super super niche).
Plus of course you get 100,000 MR points for the signup in the first place- worth $1100 as cash, plus the value of the higher cash redemption of your OTHER amex points. So pretty trivially profitable even if you use NONE of the credits, and much more profitable if you can use any of em.
since i have amex gold i get the $10 uber cash every month, would i also get $15 uber cash from amex plat? so $25 total every month?
the $200 airline credit is nice but it would be more appealing if it applied to the flight purchase, my bags are usually free with tickets and wifi is immaterial, so not sure what i would spend the flight credit on since its only for incidentals
the clear credit i wouldn't need because i already have tsa precheck and global entry
since i have amex gold i get the $10 uber cash every month, would i also get $15 uber cash from amex plat? so $25 total every month?
the $200 airline credit is nice but it would be more appealing if it applied to the flight purchase, my bags are usually free with tickets and wifi is immaterial, so not sure what i would spend the flight credit on since its only for incidentals
the clear credit i wouldn't need because i already have tsa precheck and global entry
Walmart plus i probably wouldn't use.
yes, you will get $15 uber credit on top of $10 that you get on same account. They come as separate credit. $200 is definitely a pain to use but there are tricks to use on flights. Clear can be useful with TSA pre also as it cuts the line but if TSA pre line is not long then very limited value. One other things i use is $20 streaming credit but really i probably wouldn't have used $20 if it was not free,
The real benefit of platinum for me is lounge but it only covers 2 people so i have to take an additional card for $175 extra. I am going to probably look at chase reserve next year or hilton surpass that provides 10 lounge next year.
since i have amex gold i get the $10 uber cash every month, would i also get $15 uber cash from amex plat? so $25 total every month?
Yup.
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the $200 airline credit is nice but it would be more appealing if it applied to the flight purchase
It can, for certain airlines.
For example you can add cash to your United travelbank with it, and it credits. Then book cash flights with the travelbank balance.
There's similar tricks for a couple of other airlines last I checked, but NOT all of em.
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the clear credit i wouldn't need because i already have tsa precheck and global entry
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FWIW, Clear does still provide a benefit on top of this.... if there's a line for the ID check (and I've seen decent sized ones occasionally) you get to go to the front of it.
Likewise on the rare occasions precheck isn't open, you get to skip THAT line too and go right to the ID check.
It's not useful often enough I'd pay out of pocket for it- but for free it's a nice to have that once in a while will save you a chunk of time you can then spend in a lounge instead of standing in a security line.
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The real benefit of platinum for me is lounge but it only covers 2 people so i have to take an additional card for $175 extra. I am going to probably look at chase reserve next year or hilton surpass that provides 10 lounge next year.
The plat used to have lounge value becuase it got you centurion access with 2 guests.
Now that 0 guests are included it's pretty worthless in this regard if you're not a solo traveler- the priority pass membership it offers is inferior to the chase or citi ones since it doesn't include restaurants.
Thanks, sorry to clarify are you saying not to signup for amex gold but instead for the charles schwab card or do it together to redeem for 1:1 ?
Also I think Amex removed the 1;1 cash redemption few years back? Like 900KPOINTS are worth 700$ not 900.
Do others who have/carry the gold card, redeem $10 grub hub and $10 uber/eats monthly like set a montyhly date in calendar?
The brokerage plat card specifically permits redeeming MR points at 1.1 cents per point.
So for someone with no intent on using them for travel (where value can be much higher than that) the best way to cash out is:
Get all the MR points you want from ALL the MR signups you can...and there's quite a few... (regular Platinum card, Biz platinum card, regular gold, business gold, Everyday, Everyday preferred, regular Green, and biz green... and then do the Schwab card and cash out the points from that signup, plus all your others, at 1.1c a point.
Obviously you don't need to do ALL of those other cards-- but it'd be how to maximize your return since you'll only get the one chance to cash them out as the Schwab card isn't worth keeping beyond the first year (or maybe 2 if you get a great retention offer)
The brokerage plat card specifically permits redeeming MR points at 1.1 cents per point.
So for someone with no intent on using them for travel (where value can be much higher than that) the best way to cash out is:
Get all the MR points you want from ALL the MR signups you can...and there's quite a few... (regular Platinum card, Biz platinum card, regular gold, business gold, Everyday, Everyday preferred, regular Green, and biz green... and then do the Schwab card and cash out the points from that signup, plus all your others, at 1.1c a point.
Obviously you don't need to do ALL of those other cards-- but it'd be how to maximize your return since you'll only get the one chance to cash them out as the Schwab card isn't worth keeping beyond the first year (or maybe 2 if you get a great retention offer)
Thank you I repped ya, so but I can use the Amex portal for travel redemptions at 1:1 or hopefully more if MR can be transferred to other airlines/hotel partners?
Sorry totally new to Amex bandwagon of points, I did have 1 gold card back in Canada (familly member added me), which was cancelled 5 years ago and at that time I think AF was $120 or less.
Thank you I repped ya, so but I can use the Amex portal for travel redemptions at 1:1 or hopefully more if MR can be transferred to other airlines/hotel partners?
Sorry totally new to Amex bandwagon of points, I did have 1 gold card back in Canada (familly member added me), which was cancelled 5 years ago and at that time I think AF was $120 or less.
Hey- yeah the Schwab thing I was talking about is for someone NOT interested in travel
MR can be transferred to 17 different airlines and 3 hotel chains....the hotels aren't generally worth considering (that is one place Chase has Amex beat- a useful hotel transfer partner) but lots of good airline options:
Hi All, trying to decide between the cards. I only travel like 1-2x a year. Is gold better for me? I spent $7k in travel last year. It was higher than usually because we went to maui. I would say we do one bigger trip every 3-4 years and every year we do smaller trips usually at airbnbs, not many flights or hotels.
Hi All, trying to decide between the cards. I only travel like 1-2x a year. Is gold better for me? I spent $7k in travel last year. It was higher than usually because we went to maui. I would say we do one bigger trip every 3-4 years and every year we do smaller trips usually at airbnbs, not many flights or hotels.
If you don't take few flights every year then i will suggest to get Gold. It is easier to use Uber and Grubhub and that pays for Annual Fees. You get 4% on Restaurants and Grocery store. If you only take 1 big trip per 3-4 years then you also will have to think about how to redeem and if you want to keep card for multi year. I got a retention 20K point after first year so that covered 2 year but I am probably going to keep it as I spent quite a bit on Restaurants and use it on Restaurants and Grocery.
Assuming one can handle the required spend of both there's no reason not to get both-- nothing forces you to KEEP both long-term (and indeed the plat is typically less likely to be worth keeping anyway) but both are wildly profitable above their first year annual fees with the credits and signup bonuses.
Hey guys, I would like to get the Amex Gold, but there is a few things I still don't understand. Therefore, if you don't mind giving me some insight;Do uou guys get Plat offer then close cc? Doesn't your credit score takes a hit? Also, how is it still profitable when there is a $695 fee? I know gold is only $250, I normally travel about 4 times a year, 3 in the USA and 1 int trip.
Hey guys, I would like to get the Amex Gold, but there is a few things I still don't understand. Therefore, if you don't mind giving me some insight;Do uou guys get Plat offer then close cc? Doesn't your credit score takes a hit?
This is deeply misunderstood.
Closing a card, by itself, does not hurt your score at all.
It CAN hurt it in 2 specific ways, that won't necessarily apply to everyone
The biggest is utilization. If you only have 2 cards, each with a 5k limit, and you tend to put 2k a month of spend on there-- you will have 20% utilization on your monthly credit report.
Which is high, but not dangerously-high score wise.
If you close one card, your 2k spend is now 40% utilization and you'll take a big score hit.
But if you're a churner and have 20-30+ cards open, and hundreds of k in available credit, but still only spend a few grand a month on average, then closing any one card will have no impact at all on your score in this regard... you're already at like 1% utilization. Closing the card won't change that.
The other area is average age of credit.... but cards stay on your report even when closed for 7-10 years... so again this is unlikely to have much impact for most people unless you're just starting out building credit.
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Also, how is it still profitable when there is a $695 fee?
The 150k points are worth a LOT more than $695 by themselves.
And there's $400 worth of airline credits you can use ($200 per year and it's per calendar year so you get two uses with one annual fee)
And there's $215 minimum in Uber/Ubereats credits you get with one membership fee (possibly slightly more depending when you sign up exactly).
And there's a bunch more credits some are easier than others to use
$100-150 in Saks 5th av. credits (depending exactly when you sign up)
$155/yr in Walmart+ membership credits
$189/yr CLEAR credit
$200 hotel credit (but have to book a premium hotel)
$100 global entry credit
$300/yr Equinox credit
But anyway it shouldn't be hard to get well north of 2k in value for your $695-- potentially more like 5-10k if you use the points for some premium airfare redemptions and can leverage most of the credits.
For most it won't be worth keeping the card after that (maybe 1 more year if you get a good retention offer)-- versus the gold where year over year is a little easier to justify-- but the signup is wildly profitable quite easily on both.
The best value you get by business class ticket. Though I have gotten decent value in BA economy also in peak season. Also i find lounge very valuable.
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The AF is profitable if you plan to travel anytime in the next several years (You can double dip the $200 airline credit for United future travel so $400 right there for example....If you plan to travel in the next 2 years then 200-400 more in hotel credit-- then regardless of travel another >$200 in Uber credits (you ought be able to get at least 13 months worth for one annual fee)...There's also $169 in Walmart+ credits and $378 in CLEAR credits possible with a single annual fee, and $200-400 in hotel credits.... (not gonna list the equinox one as that's super super niche).
Plus of course you get 100,000 MR points for the signup in the first place- worth $1100 as cash, plus the value of the higher cash redemption of your OTHER amex points. So pretty trivially profitable even if you use NONE of the credits, and much more profitable if you can use any of em.
Plus of course you get 100,000 MR points for the signup in the first place- worth $1100 as cash, plus the value of the higher cash redemption of your OTHER amex points. So pretty trivially profitable even if you use NONE of the credits, and much more profitable if you can use any of em.
the $200 airline credit is nice but it would be more appealing if it applied to the flight purchase, my bags are usually free with tickets and wifi is immaterial, so not sure what i would spend the flight credit on since its only for incidentals
the clear credit i wouldn't need because i already have tsa precheck and global entry
Walmart plus i probably wouldn't use.
the $200 airline credit is nice but it would be more appealing if it applied to the flight purchase, my bags are usually free with tickets and wifi is immaterial, so not sure what i would spend the flight credit on since its only for incidentals
the clear credit i wouldn't need because i already have tsa precheck and global entry
Walmart plus i probably wouldn't use.
The real benefit of platinum for me is lounge but it only covers 2 people so i have to take an additional card for $175 extra. I am going to probably look at chase reserve next year or hilton surpass that provides 10 lounge next year.
For example you can add cash to your United travelbank with it, and it credits. Then book cash flights with the travelbank balance.
There's similar tricks for a couple of other airlines last I checked, but NOT all of em.
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FWIW, Clear does still provide a benefit on top of this.... if there's a line for the ID check (and I've seen decent sized ones occasionally) you get to go to the front of it.
Likewise on the rare occasions precheck isn't open, you get to skip THAT line too and go right to the ID check.
It's not useful often enough I'd pay out of pocket for it- but for free it's a nice to have that once in a while will save you a chunk of time you can then spend in a lounge instead of standing in a security line.
The plat used to have lounge value becuase it got you centurion access with 2 guests.
Now that 0 guests are included it's pretty worthless in this regard if you're not a solo traveler- the priority pass membership it offers is inferior to the chase or citi ones since it doesn't include restaurants.
But if you plan to travel AFTER this year just get an amex ED card that has no annual fee and hang on to the points for travel that way.
Also I think Amex removed the 1;1 cash redemption few years back? Like 900KPOINTS are worth 700$ not 900.
Do others who have/carry the gold card, redeem $10 grub hub and $10 uber/eats monthly like set a montyhly date in calendar?
Also I think Amex removed the 1;1 cash redemption few years back? Like 900KPOINTS are worth 700$ not 900.
Do others who have/carry the gold card, redeem $10 grub hub and $10 uber/eats monthly like set a montyhly date in calendar?
The brokerage plat card specifically permits redeeming MR points at 1.1 cents per point.
So for someone with no intent on using them for travel (where value can be much higher than that) the best way to cash out is:
Get all the MR points you want from ALL the MR signups you can...and there's quite a few... (regular Platinum card, Biz platinum card, regular gold, business gold, Everyday, Everyday preferred, regular Green, and biz green... and then do the Schwab card and cash out the points from that signup, plus all your others, at 1.1c a point.
Obviously you don't need to do ALL of those other cards-- but it'd be how to maximize your return since you'll only get the one chance to cash them out as the Schwab card isn't worth keeping beyond the first year (or maybe 2 if you get a great retention offer)
So for someone with no intent on using them for travel (where value can be much higher than that) the best way to cash out is:
Get all the MR points you want from ALL the MR signups you can...and there's quite a few... (regular Platinum card, Biz platinum card, regular gold, business gold, Everyday, Everyday preferred, regular Green, and biz green... and then do the Schwab card and cash out the points from that signup, plus all your others, at 1.1c a point.
Obviously you don't need to do ALL of those other cards-- but it'd be how to maximize your return since you'll only get the one chance to cash them out as the Schwab card isn't worth keeping beyond the first year (or maybe 2 if you get a great retention offer)
Sorry totally new to Amex bandwagon of points, I did have 1 gold card back in Canada (familly member added me), which was cancelled 5 years ago and at that time I think AF was $120 or less.
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Sorry totally new to Amex bandwagon of points, I did have 1 gold card back in Canada (familly member added me), which was cancelled 5 years ago and at that time I think AF was $120 or less.
Hey- yeah the Schwab thing I was talking about is for someone NOT interested in travel
MR can be transferred to 17 different airlines and 3 hotel chains....the hotels aren't generally worth considering (that is one place Chase has Amex beat- a useful hotel transfer partner) but lots of good airline options:
https://global.american
Closing a card, by itself, does not hurt your score at all.
It CAN hurt it in 2 specific ways, that won't necessarily apply to everyone
The biggest is utilization. If you only have 2 cards, each with a 5k limit, and you tend to put 2k a month of spend on there-- you will have 20% utilization on your monthly credit report.
Which is high, but not dangerously-high score wise.
If you close one card, your 2k spend is now 40% utilization and you'll take a big score hit.
But if you're a churner and have 20-30+ cards open, and hundreds of k in available credit, but still only spend a few grand a month on average, then closing any one card will have no impact at all on your score in this regard... you're already at like 1% utilization. Closing the card won't change that.
The other area is average age of credit.... but cards stay on your report even when closed for 7-10 years... so again this is unlikely to have much impact for most people unless you're just starting out building credit.
Also, how is it still profitable when there is a $695 fee?
The 150k points are worth a LOT more than $695 by themselves.
And there's $400 worth of airline credits you can use ($200 per year and it's per calendar year so you get two uses with one annual fee)
And there's $215 minimum in Uber/Ubereats credits you get with one membership fee (possibly slightly more depending when you sign up exactly).
And there's a bunch more credits some are easier than others to use
$100-150 in Saks 5th av. credits (depending exactly when you sign up)
$155/yr in Walmart+ membership credits
$189/yr CLEAR credit
$200 hotel credit (but have to book a premium hotel)
$100 global entry credit
$300/yr Equinox credit
But anyway it shouldn't be hard to get well north of 2k in value for your $695-- potentially more like 5-10k if you use the points for some premium airfare redemptions and can leverage most of the credits.
For most it won't be worth keeping the card after that (maybe 1 more year if you get a good retention offer)-- versus the gold where year over year is a little easier to justify-- but the signup is wildly profitable quite easily on both.
100 points is like $6.5.
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