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Dell OptiPlex 5050 SFF Desktop (Refurb, B Grade): i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 500GB HDD

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Dell Refurbished has Dell OptiPlex 5050 SFF Desktop (Refurbished, B Grade) for $179 - 50% w/ promo code 5050DELL4U = $89.50. Shipping is free.

Also available, Dell Refurbished has Dell OptiPlex 5050 SFF Desktop (Refurbished, A Grade) for $199 - 50% w/ promo code 5050DELL4U = $99.50. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member BigFatCat for finding this deal.

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  • Intel Core i5-6500 Processor (4-Core, 3.20 GHz)
  • 8GB (2x4GB) RAM
  • 500GB Hard Drive
  • Integrated Graphics
  • Windows 10 Professional

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Dell Refurbished has Dell OptiPlex 5050 SFF Desktop (Refurbished, B Grade) for $179 - 50% w/ promo code 5050DELL4U = $89.50. Shipping is free.

Also available, Dell Refurbished has Dell OptiPlex 5050 SFF Desktop (Refurbished, A Grade) for $199 - 50% w/ promo code 5050DELL4U = $99.50. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member BigFatCat for finding this deal.

Specs
  • Intel Core i5-6500 Processor (4-Core, 3.20 GHz)
  • 8GB (2x4GB) RAM
  • 500GB Hard Drive
  • Integrated Graphics
  • Windows 10 Professional

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HY-SD
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it would use less power. also there were improvement in other areas like memory bandwidth etc.

however, yes intel was very lazy during that time, and ryzen just leapfrogged them.
hjliii
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A word of warning to those considering this deal. I tested two of these and both suffered from the same problem. The Gmail web client was unusable. I have no explanation for why this is the case, but it was bad enough that I had to return both machines. I tried everything to make it workable (i.e. multiple browsers (Firefox, Chrome, Edge), html version of Gmail, etc.). Nothing worked. I even reinstalled the OS from scratch. Using the exact same internet connection, performance was at least an order of magnitude faster on machines running intel CPU's that were two generations older. Benchmarks indicated the machines were running as expected. I would love to know if anyone has an explanation for this bottleneck. With the exception of the Gmail issue, I didn't see any other problems. I didn't see performance issue with any other workflows. Other content heavy web sites loaded quickly without issues. I really wanted to keep these machines as they are a great value, but could not work around the Gmail web client issue.
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It was during a period of historic stagnation with Intel releasing smaller and smaller quad-cores with minor changes, and reserving 6-10 cores for its "Extreme" desktop lineup. One problem was the delay of 10nm by years due to technical issues, effectively ending Intel's "Tick-Tock" model [wikipedia.org].

But AMD is partly to blame for its awful Bulldozer microarchitecture that made it nearly irrelevant in desktops until Zen/Ryzen came out. Core counts were effectively fake, leading to a class-action lawsuit, clock speeds and power use were pushed high to little effect, and they didn't bother releasing high-end FX CPUs based on Steamroller and Excavator.

Without effective competition, greed takes over.

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Is there a code at the website?
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any code? ty
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Its 5050DELL4U
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Sorry... code now added to OP.
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PaulL3556Mar 16, 2023 08:21 PM
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I was going to get one to upgrade my dell i-3570, but the benchmarks show this is only a 2-5% improvement, if even.
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helpoutMar 16, 2023 08:37 PM
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Quote from PaulL3556 :
I was going to get one to upgrade my dell i-3570, but the benchmarks show this is only a 2-5% improvement, if even.
Why does an Intel chip only show a 3% improvement after 3 years ?
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Quote from helpout :
Why does an Intel chip only show a 3% improvement after 3 years ?
it would use less power. also there were improvement in other areas like memory bandwidth etc.

however, yes intel was very lazy during that time, and ryzen just leapfrogged them.
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A word of warning to those considering this deal. I tested two of these and both suffered from the same problem. The Gmail web client was unusable. I have no explanation for why this is the case, but it was bad enough that I had to return both machines. I tried everything to make it workable (i.e. multiple browsers (Firefox, Chrome, Edge), html version of Gmail, etc.). Nothing worked. I even reinstalled the OS from scratch. Using the exact same internet connection, performance was at least an order of magnitude faster on machines running intel CPU's that were two generations older. Benchmarks indicated the machines were running as expected. I would love to know if anyone has an explanation for this bottleneck. With the exception of the Gmail issue, I didn't see any other problems. I didn't see performance issue with any other workflows. Other content heavy web sites loaded quickly without issues. I really wanted to keep these machines as they are a great value, but could not work around the Gmail web client issue.
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Quote from helpout :
Why does an Intel chip only show a 3% improvement after 3 years ?
Quote from HY-SD :
it would use less power. also there were improvement in other areas like memory bandwidth etc.

however, yes intel was very lazy during that time, and ryzen just leapfrogged them.
It was during a period of historic stagnation with Intel releasing smaller and smaller quad-cores with minor changes, and reserving 6-10 cores for its "Extreme" desktop lineup. One problem was the delay of 10nm by years due to technical issues, effectively ending Intel's "Tick-Tock" model [wikipedia.org].

But AMD is partly to blame for its awful Bulldozer microarchitecture that made it nearly irrelevant in desktops until Zen/Ryzen came out. Core counts were effectively fake, leading to a class-action lawsuit, clock speeds and power use were pushed high to little effect, and they didn't bother releasing high-end FX CPUs based on Steamroller and Excavator.

Without effective competition, greed takes over.
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emazurMar 16, 2023 09:55 PM
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Quote from hjliii :
A word of warning to those considering this deal. I tested two of these and both suffered from the same problem. The Gmail web client was unusable. I have no explanation for why this is the case, but it was bad enough that I had to return both machines. I tried everything to make it workable (i.e. multiple browsers (Firefox, Chrome, Edge), html version of Gmail, etc.). Nothing worked. I even reinstalled the OS from scratch. Using the exact same internet connection, performance was at least an order of magnitude faster on machines running intel CPU's that were two generations older. Benchmarks indicated the machines were running as expected. I would love to know if anyone has an explanation for this bottleneck. With the exception of the Gmail issue, I didn't see any other problems. I didn't see performance issue with any other workflows. Other content heavy web sites loaded quickly without issues. I really wanted to keep these machines as they are a great value, but could not work around the Gmail web client issue.
That's a really specific and odd problem. If this is potential deal breaker for anyone else reading this, I'd suggest using an installable email client like Thunderbird [thunderbird.net](which is free) or Microsoft Outlook
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A word of warning to those considering this deal. I tested two of these and both suffered from the same problem. The Gmail web client was unusable. I have no explanation for why this is the case, but it was bad enough that I had to return both machines. I tried everything to make it workable (i.e. multiple browsers (Firefox, Chrome, Edge), html version of Gmail, etc.). Nothing worked. I even reinstalled the OS from scratch. Using the exact same internet connection, performance was at least an order of magnitude faster on machines running intel CPU's that were two generations older. Benchmarks indicated the machines were running as expected. I would love to know if anyone has an explanation for this bottleneck. With the exception of the Gmail issue, I didn't see any other problems. I didn't see performance issue with any other workflows. Other content heavy web sites loaded quickly without issues. I really wanted to keep these machines as they are a great value, but could not work around the Gmail web client issue.
That one is weird... did a quick search and couldn't find anything even remotely related. Love to hear the explanation if someone figures it out.

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That one is weird... did a quick search and couldn't find anything even remotely related. Love to hear the explanation if someone figures it out.
I have a 6600T which is virtually identical to the i5-6500. 7050 MFF that I got last week. Gmail works fine, much faster than the RasPi 4 I was using before.

I did have a problem where Chex Quest gave a black screen and forced me to restart the computer, but I solved that either by updating Windows or running it in windowed mode. Other than that I've mostly stuck to using Google Chrome.
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