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expiredBigFatCat posted Mar 16, 2023 07:58 PM
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Dell OptiPlex 5050 SFF Desktop (Refurb, B Grade): i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 500GB HDD

& More + Free S&H

$90

$179

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Dell Refurbished has Dell OptiPlex 5050 SFF Desktop (Refurbished, B Grade) for $179 - 50% w/ promo code 5050DELL4U = $89.50. Shipping is free.

Also available, Dell Refurbished has Dell OptiPlex 5050 SFF Desktop (Refurbished, A Grade) for $199 - 50% w/ promo code 5050DELL4U = $99.50. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member BigFatCat for finding this deal.

Specs
  • Intel Core i5-6500 Processor (4-Core, 3.20 GHz)
  • 8GB (2x4GB) RAM
  • 500GB Hard Drive
  • Integrated Graphics
  • Windows 10 Professional

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Dell Refurbished has Dell OptiPlex 5050 SFF Desktop (Refurbished, B Grade) for $179 - 50% w/ promo code 5050DELL4U = $89.50. Shipping is free.

Also available, Dell Refurbished has Dell OptiPlex 5050 SFF Desktop (Refurbished, A Grade) for $199 - 50% w/ promo code 5050DELL4U = $99.50. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member BigFatCat for finding this deal.

Specs
  • Intel Core i5-6500 Processor (4-Core, 3.20 GHz)
  • 8GB (2x4GB) RAM
  • 500GB Hard Drive
  • Integrated Graphics
  • Windows 10 Professional

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HY-SD
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it would use less power. also there were improvement in other areas like memory bandwidth etc.

however, yes intel was very lazy during that time, and ryzen just leapfrogged them.
hjliii
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A word of warning to those considering this deal. I tested two of these and both suffered from the same problem. The Gmail web client was unusable. I have no explanation for why this is the case, but it was bad enough that I had to return both machines. I tried everything to make it workable (i.e. multiple browsers (Firefox, Chrome, Edge), html version of Gmail, etc.). Nothing worked. I even reinstalled the OS from scratch. Using the exact same internet connection, performance was at least an order of magnitude faster on machines running intel CPU's that were two generations older. Benchmarks indicated the machines were running as expected. I would love to know if anyone has an explanation for this bottleneck. With the exception of the Gmail issue, I didn't see any other problems. I didn't see performance issue with any other workflows. Other content heavy web sites loaded quickly without issues. I really wanted to keep these machines as they are a great value, but could not work around the Gmail web client issue.
LordDrol
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It was during a period of historic stagnation with Intel releasing smaller and smaller quad-cores with minor changes, and reserving 6-10 cores for its "Extreme" desktop lineup. One problem was the delay of 10nm by years due to technical issues, effectively ending Intel's "Tick-Tock" model [wikipedia.org].

But AMD is partly to blame for its awful Bulldozer microarchitecture that made it nearly irrelevant in desktops until Zen/Ryzen came out. Core counts were effectively fake, leading to a class-action lawsuit, clock speeds and power use were pushed high to little effect, and they didn't bother releasing high-end FX CPUs based on Steamroller and Excavator.

Without effective competition, greed takes over.

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Mar 17, 2023 04:28 PM
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hjliiiMar 17, 2023 04:28 PM
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Quote from d3bas3r :
I'm more interested in your crazy problem than I am the deal. Everything tells me that this is browser based or on their end if Gmail is the only thing you had an issue with. There is no actual local client that I know of, so I'm assuming you meant browser. The only commonality that I see is the machine, and it's so frikkin specific. I think I read all of what you wrote, but what were the time frames between your comparison of these 2 Dells and your third machine?
Yes, I'm talking about using Gmail in the browser, not a stand alone client (is there even one?). With regard to time frames, I tested the first one, along with another machine immediately after. In all practical terms, at the same time. Returned the first and had a second delivered. Repeated the the testing and saw the exact same results. Both machines were fully updated. There were tested against a fourth generation i5, which just ran circles around it when using Gmail in a web browser. I'm fairly confident it wasn't a difference in the web cache. I saw the exact same results with two different google accounts.
I'd buy the machine again in second if it didn't have this problem. But I've already spent enough time trying to diagnose this that I'm not willing to roll the dice again. Regardless, I appreciate your interest.
Mar 17, 2023 04:32 PM
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cgigateMar 17, 2023 04:32 PM
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Gen 5 CPU virtual useless nowadays
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Mar 17, 2023 04:33 PM
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HelenH9065Mar 17, 2023 04:33 PM
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Quote from tlogank :
Spend $30 on a 500GB SSD and it will make a night and day difference in overall speed in this thing.
What does this mean? Do I buy a 500gb ssd and install onto this machine? Or buy a machine with 500gb ssd?
Mar 17, 2023 04:34 PM
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ddBqRvCpcFv6Mar 17, 2023 04:34 PM
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Quote from HelenH9065 :
What does this mean? Do I buy a 500gb ssd and install onto this machine? Or buy a machine with 500gb ssd?
Buy ssd from amazon

Install it yourself.
Mar 17, 2023 04:35 PM
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cgigateMar 17, 2023 04:35 PM
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Quote from rmeilix :
I5 from that generation do everything except video editing and gaming quite OK as long as you have 8 or more GB ram and a ssd. Have never had an OPTIPLEX go bad on me. My currently oldest is about 10 years old. This being a business computer it is getting better and longer support from Dell, although this model is probably close to the end of active support from Dell.
What support do you need from Dell? When warranty expired, Dell won't support for you until you pay the ransom...
The best support is no support
Mar 17, 2023 05:05 PM
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rmeilixMar 17, 2023 05:05 PM
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Quote from cgigate :
What support do you need from Dell? When warranty expired, Dell won't support for you until you pay the ransom...
The best support is no support
Bug fixes in BIOS, driver updates
Mar 17, 2023 05:20 PM
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taller238Mar 17, 2023 05:20 PM
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Is the integrated video card Intel HD530?
It sucks in playing 4k 10bits, if you care watching Movie.

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Mar 17, 2023 05:25 PM
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rmeilixMar 17, 2023 05:25 PM
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Quote from ddBqRvCpcFv6 :
Buy ssd from amazon

Install it yourself.
I would buy a 128gb (or larger) brand name NVME ssd from eBay. Less than $20 these days. That is sufficient as boot drive for windows plus programs.
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Mar 17, 2023 05:29 PM
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rmeilixMar 17, 2023 05:29 PM
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Quote from taller238 :
Is the integrated video card Intel HD530?
It sucks in playing 4k 10bits, if you care watching Movie.
Yeah, this might not be the right choice for a home theater player. A fire stick is most likely going to do a better job. Playing YouTube and tick Tock videos is fine tough.
Mar 17, 2023 05:32 PM
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shark974Mar 17, 2023 05:32 PM
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dang another super tempting but do i really need it slickdeal...

the sff is what makes these. much better than a bulky full size machine for a security camera pc or 2nd room pc etc.

i have the guts of my old desktop i was thinking of refurbishing, but you quickly get into diminishing returns. it has a dusty old dirty case and power supply that would be more trouble than it's worth to clean (particularly power supplies are impossible to deep clean internally), and cost easily $150 to replace with nice quality new ones. and you'd still be looking at a bulky full size machine, a sff build would require a new motherboard, more expensive case etc. plus, it doesnt have a copy of windows, so probably 30 dollars for a gray market copy too. plus it needs a new 8GB stick of ram at absolute minimum.

for x86 passmark is my go to benchmark and this is more than fine, scores 5600, which is mainly because it's only 4 threads. the far more important single core performance is similar to my ryzen 5 2600 in my main desktop which i feel no urge to upgrade (main difference is my Ryzen scores 13k, mostly because it's 12 threads). will be moooore than plenty for a light duty pc.

as others have said tossing a ssd in here would be great. i think i have a few spares laying around. if not 20 bucks would fix it (since i use my pc's mostly like cloud machines even a 256 ssd would be fine)
Mar 17, 2023 05:33 PM
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jbrownskiMar 17, 2023 05:33 PM
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You can obtain better value than this on eBay for a better specced but similar generation Dell/HP/Lenovo SFF
Mar 17, 2023 05:33 PM
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garth25Mar 17, 2023 05:33 PM
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Bought an i5-8th gen machine for $200 and it's my new daily driver. Very pleased so far.
Mar 17, 2023 05:41 PM
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FairTeam939Mar 17, 2023 05:41 PM
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Quote from rmeilix :
I would buy a 128gb (or larger) brand name NVME ssd from eBay. Less than $20 these days. That is sufficient as boot drive for windows plus programs.
my guess if that this will only accommodate a M.2 SSD if using a 6th generation i5 mother board. my 8th generation i5 will use a M.2 NVMe no problem in a Latittude laptop. boatloads of any kind available anywhere cheap.
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Mar 17, 2023 05:48 PM
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rmeilixMar 17, 2023 05:48 PM
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Quote from jbrownski :
You can obtain better value than this on eBay for a better specced but similar generation Dell/HP/Lenovo SFF
I think price wise it is going to be close. As always you can be lucky on eBay with auctions or one offs. This will cost you time instead of money.

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Mar 17, 2023 05:52 PM
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rmeilixMar 17, 2023 05:52 PM
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Quote from FairTeam939 :
my guess if that this will only accommodate a M.2 SSD if using a 6th generation i5 mother board. my 8th generation i5 will use a M.2 NVMe no problem in a Latittude laptop. boatloads of any kind available anywhere cheap.
I do not know first hand but online consensus seems to be that the 5050 support nvme after bios update. Any ssd, even sata will make a huge difference

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