Sam's Club has for its
Members: Generac Guardian Series WiFi Enabled 22,000-Watt (LP) / 19,500-Watt (NG) Standby Generator with 200A Automatic Transfer Switch (G007043) on sale for
$5499.
Shipping is free.
Thanks to community member
tunabreath for finding this deal.
Product Details:
- Best-in-class power quality with less then 5 percent total harmonic distortion
- Mobile Link remote monitoring allows you to monitor the status of your generator
- 200 Amp Whole Home Transfer Switch
- Alexa Smart Home Compatible
- True Power Technology delivers utility-grade power quality with less than 5 percent total harmonic distortion for clean, smooth operation of sensitive electronics and appliances.
- Comes with a 10 Year Warranty (must be installed & activated by 6/25/23)
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Like an A/C heat pump it needs a concrete or composite concrete pad to sit on. You will likely need an electrician to connect it to your house and you may need to coordinate with your electric company for certain aspects of the installation like the auto transfer. Unless you have natural gas and get the conversion (I think a conversion is possible) you will also need a large propane tank installed (capacity of 100 to 250 gallons) by a propane company and coordinate with them for filling when needed/ahead of storms, etc. The tank is pretty big and needs to be within so many feet of the generator. These require annual maintenance that you may be able to do yourself or it's around $100 to $150 to have Generac do it. The 10 year warranty seems nice but 10 years of annual maintenance would be better. Finally these generators are big and heavy. I don't think you will be able to move it in place with a dolly.
I had a quote for purchase and install from a Generac dealer and installation was 30% or more of the quote. I never went through with it because installation seemed to be where they were gouging. The coordination with your power company should be free or minimal. Obviously electricians vary by area. I think the dealer had me coordinate with the propane company for install of the tank. I know Lowes sells Generacs. I would be interested in how much they charge for installation.
At the time generators we're on backorder for 6 months or more. Sounds like they've gotten ahead of the supply issues now.
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it will increase your house value at least for 10 % if you wanna sell it , gasoline/propane generators are outdated, on top oil changes and maintenance cost 1-2 times a year
it uses 2.2 gallons per hour at hald load and 4 gallons at full load PER HOUR !
thats avg is 92 gallons a day at close to full load depends on your propane cost thats close to $300 PER DAY ! thats insane !
It really depends on how badly you need power maintained, how much stuff you need to run while the power is out, and how often the power goes out. My father was an electrician and installed a lot of these for people that had medical equipment that needed to run 24x7.
That said when my mother had to use O2, there was some agreement with the local FD that if power went out for X number of hours, they had to come out and set up a portable for her (to run the O2 machine).
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1 PW has ~ 13.5kWh capacity (which isn't entirely usable) with 5.8/10kW available. The average home uses nearly 30kwh/day, so unless you're getting 3 PW to the tune of $30k plus a solar install to recharge it, that isn't really a "standby" whole home solution. If you're stuck with it and have the $$ I guess it's OK, but a standby like this, full install, is just a fraction of the price of the PW setup and will just keep running.
I even find it hard to justify a standby setup like this - yeah it would be ideal but even if I do the install mostly myself, there's still some labor and materials involved, best case say I'm $10k all in, for what, the power going out half a day yearly - when I already have a 10/12kW portable that I spent $40 to integrate into my panel. I'd be spending $10k to save myself an hour of hauling a generator around once a year or so. Doesn't sound like a good payback case to me.
As purely backup, yes it's 3 or 4 times the price of an installed generator. But you also don't have to recharge it with fuel, the generator uses fuel even when there is no load. Solar/battery does not. If it's daytime then you can charge up your batteries while still run the household.
Now if you take in the benefits of solar with a battery or net-metering over time it can be more appealing as throughout the year you'll be saving on your power bill, no need to spend money on gas. You can sell power back to the grid or store it to use when the grid prices are higher. Not to mention increased property value over a generator these days. In a real emergency like a storm taking out the grid for a week or two, unless you are tied to a gas line it is basically impossible to get a gas truck scheduled.
As an owner of solar panels and a generator. I can safely say that I'm happy my house came with a generator, but I would never install one. In 10 years even after multiple storms/hurricanes I've never had my generator run more than 5 hours because of a power outage. Really depends on where you live. But if I were to choose, I would get a portable generator and portable battery power banks that I could recharge with solar. They would only be wire up to essential circuits, like well pump and refrigerator.
I see people concern about running their A/Cs on generator power, that's just a dumb way to spend money.
also, terrible reviews.
As purely backup, yes it's 3 or 4 times the price of an installed generator. But you also don't have to recharge it with fuel, the generator uses fuel even when there is no load. Solar/battery does not. If it's daytime then you can charge up your batteries while still run the household.
Now if you take in the benefits of solar with a battery or net-metering over time it can be more appealing as throughout the year you'll be saving on your power bill, no need to spend money on gas. You can sell power back to the grid or store it to use when the grid prices are higher. Not to mention increased property value over a generator these days. In a real emergency like a storm taking out the grid for a week or two, unless you are tied to a gas line it is basically impossible to get a gas truck scheduled.
As an owner of solar panels and a generator. I can safely say that I'm happy my house came with a generator, but I would never install one. In 10 years even after multiple storms/hurricanes I've never had my generator run more than 5 hours because of a power outage. Really depends on where you live. But if I were to choose, I would get a portable generator and portable battery power banks that I could recharge with solar. They would only be wire up to essential circuits, like well pump and refrigerator.
I see people concern about running their A/Cs on generator power, that's just a dumb way to spend money.
I think he was being sarcastic.
This generator is rated at 22,000 watts an Xbox uses less that 200 watts so it may be able to power more than 3
First, these definitely aren't for everyone. If your power rarely or never goes out, of it it's only out for a couple of hours, this probably isn't for you.
IF you don't have some medical condition requiring constant power, this might not be for you either.
If you are fine with getting by using an outdoor grill and maybe a portable heater, this might not be for you either.
Me ? I had a parent on 24/7 oxygen and who used a BiPap. Her hospital bed was electric and she could raise and lower the head and feet by herself.
Power went out recently and 15 seconds later, my 20KW Generac kicked on and started running. Every single circuit and outlet in my house had power. All my appliances worked, including the furnace.
For my own needs, I didn't have to run a single extension cord. I didn't have to worry about a gas tank running dry. I didn't have to worry about turning off X, Y or Z so that I could run A, B and/or C at the same time.
Eventually, some extension cords were run to some of my outside outlets. I was able to provide some power to 5 of my neighbors so that they could run certain things in their houses.
in the end, half of our neighbors was out of power for 48 hours, that included 3 neighbors behind me who drew power from my house.
My power, and that of neighbors on each side of me (and across the street) was out for a total of 64 hours. My Generac ran during that entire time. I only shut it down for 15 minutes at the 48 hour mark to check the oil level in it.
I've had a couple of other power outages over the last 10 years that I've had this generator. One could argue that I've used to for 10 days total in 10 years and since it cost me about $7k in total, that it wasn't worth the $700 per day. That's somewhat of a "hind sight" argument. It's like saying that paying car insurance every year is a waste because you haven't had an accident yet.
I paid $7K for peace of mind, and to make sure that IF and WHEN the power did go out, I wouldn't have any concerns.
For me, it was money well spent.
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