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1260Wh EcoFlow DELTA Portable Power Station Generator (Refurb)

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EcoFlow via eBay has 1260Wh EcoFlow DELTA Portable Power Station Generator (Certified Refurbished) on sale for $425.55 when you apply coupon codes EFDELTA15 & REFURBSAVINGS during checkout. Shipping is free.

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About this Item:
  • 1260Wh Capacity
  • Outputs up to 1800W constant, 3000W surge
  • Charges to full capacity in 2 hours via AC outlet
  • Can be charged via solar panel (not included)
  • Ports:
    • 6x AC output
    • 4x USB-A
    • 2x USB-C
    • 1x 12V DC car socket
  • Includes a 2-year warranty serviced by Allstate.

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EcoFlow via eBay has 1260Wh EcoFlow DELTA Portable Power Station Generator (Certified Refurbished) on sale for $425.55 when you apply coupon codes EFDELTA15 & REFURBSAVINGS during checkout. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member sdhl for sharing this deal.

About this Item:
  • 1260Wh Capacity
  • Outputs up to 1800W constant, 3000W surge
  • Charges to full capacity in 2 hours via AC outlet
  • Can be charged via solar panel (not included)
  • Ports:
    • 6x AC output
    • 4x USB-A
    • 2x USB-C
    • 1x 12V DC car socket
  • Includes a 2-year warranty serviced by Allstate.

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Written by megakimcheelove | Staff
  • About this Deal:
    • This offer is $75.10 lower (15% savings) than previous Front Page deal that earned 31+ thumbs up
  • See forum thread for additional deal discussion

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Mar 25, 2023 10:03 PM
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greenday2049Mar 25, 2023 10:03 PM
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Received the unit today. It looks definitely used and no solar charging cable included. However it included a cover which is surprised. This thing is loud when it is being AC charged and even when ac turns on with no load..(Is this normal?) noise level is disappoint. My Delta Mini is quiet.
Last edited by greenday2049 March 26, 2023 at 10:15 PM.
Mar 26, 2023 01:25 PM
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silentsnow31802Mar 26, 2023 01:25 PM
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Was it supposed to come with a solar cable? I'm not seeing that in the description.
Mar 26, 2023 03:16 PM
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jones4765Mar 26, 2023 03:16 PM
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Quote from silentsnow31802 :
Was it supposed to come with a solar cable? I'm not seeing that in the description.
The website says all accessories included with refurbished products https://us.ecoflow.com/pages/refurbished

Edit: it says Ebay refurbished but still list the accessories in the product description
Last edited by jones4765 March 26, 2023 at 08:27 AM.
Mar 27, 2023 11:38 AM
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kida182001Mar 27, 2023 11:38 AM
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Quote from orellana_anthony :
For those interested in the Delta 2 refurb, I was just able to purchase for $674!!

Here's what I did.

1. Message EcoFlo cs through eBay. Asked if they were having a sale on the delta 2 (refurb) anytime soon.
2. They responded with an offer of $719 (about $100 off).
3. Accept the offer and then add code REFURBSAVINGS which brought my total down to $674 w taxes
I guess they caught on and only offered me $779 ($40 off), which is still too expensive for me still even after another $100 off.
Mar 27, 2023 02:59 PM
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jones4765Mar 27, 2023 02:59 PM
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In regards to the missing solar charging cable, here is the response I received:
-------------------
Hi there,

Sorry for the confusion caused.
Please kindly note that the solar charging cable is not included in the power stations,
but in solar panels due to products update.
We have attached a picture of the item in the box. Please check it.

However, We have arranged a shipment for the solar charging cable since you are our valued customer.
The tracking number will be updated for you later.
Best.
-------------------
The issue was that it is listed in the production description and the included service manual. There has since been a revision of the manual on the website.
Mar 27, 2023 04:08 PM
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trevortypesMar 27, 2023 04:08 PM
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Quote from jones4765 :
In regards to the missing solar charging cable, here is the response I received:
-------------------
Hi there,

Sorry for the confusion caused.
Please kindly note that the solar charging cable is not included in the power stations,
but in solar panels due to products update.
We have attached a picture of the item in the box. Please check it.

However, We have arranged a shipment for the solar charging cable since you are our valued customer.
The tracking number will be updated for you later.
Best.
-------------------
The issue was that it is listed in the production description and the included service manual. There has since been a revision of the manual on the website.
Same exact reply for me.
Mar 27, 2023 06:42 PM
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lepton_ythtMar 27, 2023 06:42 PM
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A little confusing about warranty, I registered it on ecoflow website and I supposed ecoflow will provide 2 years warranty. While same time when I bought it, I believe there is a 2 year warranty from AllState. Did I get 4 years warranty in total? In case something happen, who should I ask for help? Ecoflow or AllState?

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Mar 27, 2023 06:58 PM
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kaczMar 27, 2023 06:58 PM
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Quote from warsheep :
happy with the unit. arrived like brand new. solar charging cable is missing and i did send them a request on ebay and asked for a $25 discount...
Did your Delta have any protective plastic on the top of the unit or anywhere else? Mine did not. I did have a solar cable in the cable box accessory box which looked brand new.
Mar 27, 2023 07:12 PM
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warsheepMar 27, 2023 07:12 PM
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Quote from kacz :
Did your Delta have any protective plastic on the top of the unit or anywhere else? Mine did not. I did have a solar cable in the cable box accessory box which looked brand new.
i had a plastic on the screen. they are willing to send me now the solar cable. they just messaged me... i really dont need it, and i was hoping for a small discount ($25) ^^
Mar 27, 2023 11:15 PM
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greenday2049Mar 27, 2023 11:15 PM
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Quote from warsheep :
i had a plastic on the screen. they are willing to send me now the solar cable. they just messaged me... i really dont need it, and i was hoping for a small discount ($25) ^^
Wonder if yours also has very loud fan noise when AC turns on even in no use.
Mar 28, 2023 09:05 PM
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SouthPawNdMar 28, 2023 09:05 PM
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Quote from Core2Quad :
Not that I'm aware of but get yourself a kilowatt meter for like $20 and test capacity that way.

I plugged in a heater set to medium mode at around 900W load and got about 89% of its 1260Wh rating, which is fantastic considering inverter losses. This was on a brand new EcoFlow Delta. I'll test my dads "refurb" tomorrow and see.
Do you mean Kill A Watt? I have one of those. I have a Vornado heater which I can adjust the temperature. So basically bump up the temperature and see how much load a full-charged Delta Max can output?

Edit: I hooked up the Vornado heater to the Kill A Watt and couldn't really fine tune the load. KAW Meter says 1380W and the front panel says 1401W. What am I looking for to figure out the capacity this unit has (like how many cycles it has gone through already)? How did you get 89% from your numbers, sorry I'm a noob
Last edited by SouthPawNd March 28, 2023 at 03:17 PM.
Mar 28, 2023 09:48 PM
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KelvrickMar 28, 2023 09:48 PM
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Quote from kacz :
Did your Delta have any protective plastic on the top of the unit or anywhere else? Mine did not. I did have a solar cable in the cable box accessory box which looked brand new.
Mine looked used with some scuff marks around the unit. There was still a protective plastic over the screen and I had no solar cable. Had 30% charge and charged up in like an hour using the ac plug.
Mar 28, 2023 10:58 PM
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Core2QuadMar 28, 2023 10:58 PM
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Quote from SouthPawNd :
Do you mean Kill A Watt? I have one of those. I have a Vornado heater which I can adjust the temperature. So basically bump up the temperature and see how much load a full-charged Delta Max can output?

Edit: I hooked up the Vornado heater to the Kill A Watt and couldn't really fine tune the load. KAW Meter says 1380W and the front panel says 1401W. What am I looking for to figure out the capacity this unit has (like how many cycles it has gone through already)? How did you get 89% from your numbers, sorry I'm a noob
Yea kill a watt. There will be a small difference between what front panel reports and what kill a watt meter reports. I would use an average.

But basically I would first try to dial down the heater to a lower setting, because 1400W is pushing it pretty good. I set mine to about 930W.

The Kill a watt meter should have a button that says Kwh, which keeps track of Kilowatt hours of energy used. The trick with this however is you kind of have to babysit it and watch the screen especially near the end, because it will shut power to the inverter and zero out your Kill a watt meter.

In my dads case he got 1.05Kwh and my new unit tested out at 1.12Kwh. In my case at 1.12Kw I divided 1260 by 1120 to get my ~89% figure. I would say anything in the 87-90% range you are at 100% +/- 2% or so of original internal battery capacity.

I also recommend doing the calculation based off of time and average power draw.

So take for example the heater runtime and divide by 60 to get time in hours. So 1.1 hours for example. Then take your average power draw (average what the ecoflow says and what the kill a watt meter says). In my case if thats like 930W average I'd do 1.1 hours of 930W = 1023 Watt hours or 1.023Kwh in this example. Internal battery when new at 0.2C (5 hour discharge) is rated at 1260Wh. But there are inverter conversion losses and inverter/fan losses so you'd expect at most 90% of this figure.
Last edited by Core2Quad March 28, 2023 at 04:00 PM.
Mar 28, 2023 11:12 PM
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SouthPawNdMar 28, 2023 11:12 PM
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Quote from Core2Quad :
Yea kill a watt. There will be a small difference between what front panel reports and what kill a watt meter reports. I would use an average.

But basically I would first try to dial down the heater to a lower setting, because 1400W is pushing it pretty good. I set mine to about 930W.

The Kill a watt meter should have a button that says Kwh, which keeps track of Kilowatt hours of energy used. The trick with this however is you kind of have to babysit it and watch the screen especially near the end, because it will shut power to the inverter and zero out your Kill a watt meter.

In my dads case he got 1.05Kwh and my new unit tested out at 1.12Kwh. In my case at 1.12Kw I divided 1260 by 1120 to get my ~89% figure. I would say anything in the 87-90% range you are at 100% +/- 2% or so of original internal battery capacity.

I also recommend doing the calculation based off of time and average power draw.

So take for example the heater runtime and divide by 60 to get time in hours. So 1.1 hours for example. Then take your average power draw (average what the ecoflow says and what the kill a watt meter says). In my case if thats like 930W average I'd do 1.1 hours of 930W = 1023 Watt hours or 1.023Kwh in this example. Internal battery when new at 0.2C (5 hour discharge) is rated at 1260Wh. But there are inverter conversion losses and inverter/fan losses so you'd expect at most 90% of this figure.
Thanks! I'll see if I can play around with the settings to get it to around 900W. So

1. Charge the unit to 100%
2. Hook up heater to KAW meter to unit & try to run at 900W
3. Let it run & monitor the KwH value on KAW meter and note the last value before it shuts down
4. Take value in 3 and divide by 1260Wh. The closer to 0.90 it is the less it has been "used"


Edit: I ran the test tonight with the Kill A Watt meter.

I charged the unit to 100% and then unplugged the power cord. Hooked up heater to the KAW meter and ran it in low mode, averaging 687W. The unit shut down around the 92 minute mark and the KAW recorded 1.06kWh. So 1060/1260 = 84.1%, is that "bad"? I know there's loss due to the AC inverter, fans, heat, etc, so you can never get the full 1260 capacity, but what is the typical efficiency for this unit?
Also what concerns me is the "estimated" time and percentage remaining on the front panel. When I ran the test above, the estimated remaining time dropped to 1 minute and remaining percentage to 1% after around 60 minutes, then it ran another 32 minutes before the unit shut down! Is this unit messed up? Or it just needs to run more to get calibrated? It sucks that I won't know how much is actually left even if the 84.1% efficiency I got is good.

Edit 2: ok I googled for inverter efficiency and 84% is normal. This link mentions 65-85% is typical. And the more the load is the more efficient it is. So you had your heater at 930W which is higher than my 687W so I guess your run is more efficient based on that observation.

https://www.energian.co.uk/pages/ecoflowpower

The Delta 2 efficiency is lower apparently at 80%. And this review says it's more efficent the smaller the load 🤷🏻. It also mentions to charge and full discharge to calibrate the estimation values on the front panel

https://www.pcworld.com/article/1...eview.html

Edit 3: yeah my unit needs some sort of recalibration. I recharged it after running the above heater test and it hit 100% with an estimate of 1 minute left after 40 or so minutes and then it continued to charge at 798W for another 30 minutes before it completed. Anyone knows what are the steps to recalibrate this. This lines up with the behavior I described above when it continued to run for another 30 minutes after saying 1 minute (1%) left
Last edited by SouthPawNd March 29, 2023 at 03:54 AM.

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Mar 29, 2023 12:53 PM
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kaczMar 29, 2023 12:53 PM
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Quote from SouthPawNd :
Thanks! I'll see if I can play around with the settings to get it to around 900W. So

1. Charge the unit to 100%
2. Hook up heater to KAW meter to unit & try to run at 900W
3. Let it run & monitor the KwH value on KAW meter and note the last value before it shuts down
4. Take value in 3 and divide by 1260Wh. The closer to 0.90 it is the less it has been "used"


Edit: I ran the test tonight with the Kill A Watt meter.

I charged the unit to 100% and then unplugged the power cord. Hooked up heater to the KAW meter and ran it in low mode, averaging 687W. The unit shut down around the 92 minute mark and the KAW recorded 1.06kWh. So 1060/1260 = 84.1%, is that "bad"? I know there's loss due to the AC inverter, fans, heat, etc, so you can never get the full 1260 capacity, but what is the typical efficiency for this unit?
Also what concerns me is the "estimated" time and percentage remaining on the front panel. When I ran the test above, the estimated remaining time dropped to 1 minute and remaining percentage to 1% after around 60 minutes, then it ran another 32 minutes before the unit shut down! Is this unit messed up? Or it just needs to run more to get calibrated? It sucks that I won't know how much is actually left even if the 84.1% efficiency I got is good.

Edit 2: ok I googled for inverter efficiency and 84% is normal. This link mentions 65-85% is typical. And the more the load is the more efficient it is. So you had your heater at 930W which is higher than my 687W so I guess your run is more efficient based on that observation.

https://www.energian.co.uk/pages/ecoflowpower

The Delta 2 efficiency is lower apparently at 80%. And this review says it's more efficent the smaller the load 🤷🏻. It also mentions to charge and full discharge to calibrate the estimation values on the front panel

https://www.pcworld.com/article/1...eview.html [pcworld.com]

Edit 3: yeah my unit needs some sort of recalibration. I recharged it after running the above heater test and it hit 100% with an estimate of 1 minute left after 40 or so minutes and then it continued to charge at 798W for another 30 minutes before it completed. Anyone knows what are the steps to recalibrate this. This lines up with the behavior I described above when it continued to run for another 30 minutes after saying 1 minute (1%) left
Discharge the unit until it shuts down and then charge to 100% until it takes in no input power; then do a complete discharge to calibrate

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