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Last Edited by jersharocks | Staff April 7, 2023 at 11:11 AM
$49,990.00
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Model 3 RWD $41990
Model 3 Performance Dual Motor AWD $52990
Model Y SR Dual Motor AWD $49990
Model Y LR Dual Motor AWD $52990
Model Y Performance Dual Motor AWD $56990

$5K off for Model S/X
$2K off for Model Y
$1K off for Model 3

Also, Model Y SR Dual Motor AWD can be customized for order.

https://www.tesla.com

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jma9
04-08-2023 at 09:39 AM.
04-08-2023 at 09:39 AM.
Quote from Knightshade :
It has no side cameras- it's incapable of safely changing lanes automatically.

I mean they might still allow you to enable doing it and just say "it's on you if it hits things it can't see" but calling that comparable to a system with multiple side cameras is... not accurate.

That's apart from the myriad other city driving (and even highway driving for doing things like changing lanes to follow route, or taking exits and interchanges between highways automatically all of which REQUIRE side cameras it doesn't have to be done safely) that Teslas system all does today.





About what?

I ask because you literally admitted it wasn't 350 miles which was your original, wrong, claim and you literally admitted the base model wouldn't have the larger battery and would cost more to get, contrary to your original claim of the 55k model getting 350 miles.




Sure. But the EPA rating won't be 336. 336 is using WLTP which routinely overstates range across basically every EV ever tested, typically by 10-20%.

Which is why 300 is the "estimated" range all US sources are quoting-- because 300, not 336 and certainly not your originally claimed 350, will be about what you can hope for.

So again I agree someone doesn't want to admit error but it seems like it's you.

Oh, and most "economy EVs" aren't as expensive as the EV9 and have a much smaller battery so less range is not surprising.

The EV9 will have a ~100 kwh battery. AFAIK it'll have less range than any other EV with a battery that size though-- certainly less than any Tesla with a battery that big by quite a lot (the LR Model S for example is 405, about 25% more range with the same size battery and the Model X is 348, so actually about 350, vs the EPA likely 300 of the Kia with the same battery)

That said, Teslas cheaper models are either a LOT cheaper with nearly the range (RWD 3 or SR AWD Y) or still 10-20 cheaper with better range (Model Y LR for example)- they just won't have an "adult size" 3rd row like the X does-- hence why I say if you NEED a full sized 3rd row and don't want an X the EV9 will be a perfectly reasonable choice. But it won't get you 350 miles (for any price) and it won't even get you 300 for the 55k you suggest.
The auto lane change integrates with the cars blind spot monitor. No need for cameras. But I agree..full camera support would be a better option. It's just a far cheaper and convenient option for most people. I have 2 cars I can use the comma in. And I move my comma from car to car. It's just an impressive device with some limitations.
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JL5
04-08-2023 at 09:40 AM.
04-08-2023 at 09:40 AM.
Quote from koge811 :
If you don't qualify for the tax credit you shouldn't be spending 50-60k on a car.

7500 you need to make at least 75+k a year.

Below that should not buy any ev until they become affordable

90% of population should not be buying ev or over 30k vehicles
I heard on the news that there are no new cars below $20k and soon, there will be none below $25k. The avg price of new cars recently purchased is over $45k.

https://money.com/average-new-car...cord-high/
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Knightshade
04-08-2023 at 09:43 AM.
04-08-2023 at 09:43 AM.
Quote from jma9 :
The auto lane change integrates with the cars blind spot monitor. No need for cameras. But I agree..full camera support would be a better option. It's just a far cheaper and convenient option for most people. I have 2 cars I can use the comma in. And I move my comma from car to car. It's just an impressive device with some limitations.
The issue with that is blind spot monitors don't monitor the entire side of the vehicle.

They're there so you don't lane-change into something that isn't obvious in the mirror.

Teslas cameras, between the fender cams and the B-pillar cams, CAN see the entire side, not just the blind spot area.

I agree comma is cheaper, and you can bolt it to many existing cars- but it's still significantly less capable than the more advanced features Tesla offers.

It's a pretty reasonable substitute for the basic, free, version of AP Teslas come with for most though.
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TypeRice
04-08-2023 at 09:52 AM.
04-08-2023 at 09:52 AM.
You buy a tesla to use their charging infrastructure. Good luck trying to find available fast chargers if u want to drive long distance. Rich rebuilds tried to drive 1200 miles in ford lightning- look up the video it is a few months old
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Planetshining
04-08-2023 at 09:53 AM.
04-08-2023 at 09:53 AM.
Quote from collegebudget :
I am seriously considering a MYP for its towing ability. Tesla has always been interesting to me because of their self driving. But it sounds like it has recently been slowly going downhill due to regulations? Can anyone comment?
Yes, Tesla Full Self Driving is a scam. Pure and simple!
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hbsjr
04-08-2023 at 09:54 AM.
04-08-2023 at 09:54 AM.
Quote from Eagles89 :
Bolt only costs $1000/year to insure and Tesla costs $5000/year to insure.

It depends YMMV.. i pay $460/6mo with costco. MYLR, 100/300 Ded- Comp 100, Coll 500
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Nachiketkc
04-08-2023 at 09:54 AM.
04-08-2023 at 09:54 AM.
Quote from Eagles89 :
Tesla nickels and dimes you. You have to pay for mobile charger, charger installation, non-refundable order fee, extra delivery fee, etc. It adds up. Chevy doesn't make you pay for any of that.

Tesla has a supercharger network, far better than any other manufacturer's
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huss797
04-08-2023 at 09:54 AM.
04-08-2023 at 09:54 AM.
Anyone knows if/when Tesla prices for used car inventory (on tesla website) will be adjusted to take into consideration that new models are discounted?
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Planetshining
04-08-2023 at 09:56 AM.
04-08-2023 at 09:56 AM.
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It's amazing how much misinformation about Tesla cars is in this thread. Simply unbelievable. Either the posters are lying because they hate Elon or they are union trolls or can't afford one. Amazing lies. Wow.
People who like to put a lot of hats on others who they disagree with! Go figure!
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CrimsonLinen6057
04-08-2023 at 09:56 AM.
04-08-2023 at 09:56 AM.
Also, if you don't owe any money to IRS, I don't think the tax rebate will work for you, correct? Or are there ways to get the tax rebate even if you don't owe any money?
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hbsjr
04-08-2023 at 09:56 AM.
04-08-2023 at 09:56 AM.
Quote from Nachiketkc :
Tesla has a supercharger network, far better than any other manufacturer's

Yeah but in CA it is pretty much hiway robbery to charge, expensive than Gas.. Charge at home + Good dimensioned Solar is the key i think
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Knightshade
04-08-2023 at 10:04 AM.
04-08-2023 at 10:04 AM.
Quote from CrimsonLinen6057 :
Also, if you don't owe any money to IRS, I don't think the tax rebate will work for you, correct? Or are there ways to get the tax rebate even if you don't owe any money?

Unless you earned almost 0 income for the year you owe money to the IRS.

Don't confuse this with "how big your refund is"

That has nothing to do with it.

If you earn X dollars, you owe Y in taxes.

Whatever deductions you have from your paycheck is a prepayment of Y, but does not change the value of Y.

It's the value of Y that matters for the tax credit.


Broadly speaking (using 2022 tax tables-- 2023 may be different but not by much), a net taxable income of $54,000 or higher filing single, or $65,900 married filing jointly, gets you a Y of at least $7500- meaning you'd get the full value of the $7500 tax credit.
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Wyvern1
04-08-2023 at 10:06 AM.
04-08-2023 at 10:06 AM.
Does anyone think more price cuts are coming down the pipeline?
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CT200H
04-08-2023 at 10:07 AM.
04-08-2023 at 10:07 AM.
Quote from Knightshade :
Unless you earned almost 0 income for the year you owe money to the IRS.

Don't confuse this with "how big your refund is"

That has nothing to do with it.

If you earn X dollars, you owe Y in taxes.

Whatever deductions you have from your paycheck is a prepayment of Y, but does not change the value of Y.

It's the value of Y that matters for the tax credit.


Broadly speaking (using 2022 tax tables-- 2023 may be different but not by much), a net taxable income of $54,000 or higher filing single, or $65,900 married filing jointly, gets you a Y of at least $7500- meaning you'd get the full value of the $7500 tax credit.

Best explanation. As long as you pay taxes, the 7500 will be applicable. I just wish there wasn't an income cap. My brother, who does much better than me wanted one but wants the credit too. Lol. Go figure!
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KenBT
04-08-2023 at 10:09 AM.
04-08-2023 at 10:09 AM.
Quote from Wyvern1 :
Does anyone think more price cuts are coming down the pipeline?

Tesla makes an average of $9,500 per car and their approximate operating gross profit percentage is between "15 to 17" percent.

If there's a price war- they can give any carmaker a run for their money. And I don't have a Tesla.
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