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Last Edited by jersharocks | Staff April 7, 2023 at 11:11 AM
$49,990.00
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Model 3 RWD $41990
Model 3 Performance Dual Motor AWD $52990
Model Y SR Dual Motor AWD $49990
Model Y LR Dual Motor AWD $52990
Model Y Performance Dual Motor AWD $56990

$5K off for Model S/X
$2K off for Model Y
$1K off for Model 3

Also, Model Y SR Dual Motor AWD can be customized for order.

https://www.tesla.com

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Knightshade
04-08-2023 at 08:01 PM.
04-08-2023 at 08:01 PM.
Quote from Eagles89 :
Except the income requirements stay the same until 2032. Do you most people will qualify in 2032?

Almost certainly, yes.

Average increase in income happens pretty gradually... 2023 to 2032 is 9 years.
2012-2021 is also 9 years...average household income in that period increased only about 33%....from 65596 to 87432.

If we bump another 33% we go from 87432 to $116,284.56...below even the 150k SINGLE limit for the credit- let alone the 300k married one.

So yes- most people would still qualify.

Even the average current Tesla owner making 130k would only be up to 172.9k at 33% bump-- WAY under the married limit at least....and since we know a cheaper/smaller Tesla model is coming out by end of 2024 the average income of Tesla buyers will continue moving downward overall.



Now all THAT said-- if you read what they passed- they estimated an HILARIOUSLY low total cost for it.... and as EV sales continue scaling they will blow out that number pretty fast... which will probably lead to some in congress calling to end or change the credit.... who knows if/when that happens though.
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04-08-2023 at 08:03 PM.
04-08-2023 at 08:03 PM.
Quote from Eagles89 :
So why is everyone talking about the Bolt in a Tesla thread? Because they know the truth
you know, when people rant OT on any thread (not just Tesla), my 1st thought is literally never 'they know the truth'. I believe you believe that though, lmao!
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Pragmatism
04-08-2023 at 08:07 PM.
04-08-2023 at 08:07 PM.
Quote from av911 :
Haha.. Still waiting to get the battery recall on my 2019...incompetence all around Chevy. Currently, at most, 140 miles usable. Need to use heat? Let's take 30 miles off. Cold outside? Let's take a little off, too.
Never understood why they don't add a small vented kerosene heater option. One gallon of kerosene would be enough- preheat the car with it, not to volatile, and probably enough for one day's use.
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rkochar123
04-08-2023 at 08:10 PM.
04-08-2023 at 08:10 PM.
I ordered Model Y sometime in February, and Tesla has been going back and forth with the delivery date. As of now , I see May 21 - June 30. I was literally going to cancel it, but 2k off more on what I was going to pay. They confirmed you will get the market price. I am gonna wait, bruh. Let's cut another 3k off sooner. The tax rebate on Model Y is still alive. Cmon, please get me this damn car soon.
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Eagles89
04-08-2023 at 08:11 PM.
04-08-2023 at 08:11 PM.
Quote from Knightshade :
Average increase in income happens pretty gradually... 2023 to 2032 is 9 years.
2012-2021 is also 9 years...average household income in that period increased only about 33%....from 65596 to 87432.

If we bump another 33% we go from 87432 to $116,284.56...below even the 150k SINGLE limit for the credit- let alone the 300k married one.

So yes- most people would still qualify.
I can almost guarantee you this tax credit won't exist by 2032. It was passed in a straight party vote so it will almost certainly be repealed when the other party gets in power.
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Knightshade
04-08-2023 at 08:14 PM.
04-08-2023 at 08:14 PM.
Quote from Eagles89 :
I can almost guarantee you this tax credit won't exist by 2032. It was passed in a straight party vote so it will almost certainly be repealed when the other party gets in power.


...then why were you asking if I thought income levels in 2032 would still let people qualify?

You seem to move goalposts every time you get an answer you don't like.
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pappyp
04-08-2023 at 08:15 PM.
04-08-2023 at 08:15 PM.
Quote from Eagles89 :
Sure, if you have $48,000 in cash laying around and can buy next week. I personally would go with the bolt. It's almost $20k cheaper and pretty much the same car.

But no way to supercharge it
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Eagles89
04-08-2023 at 08:16 PM.
04-08-2023 at 08:16 PM.
Quote from Knightshade :
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You seem to move goalposts every time you get an answer you don't like.
This doesn't apply to you as well?
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GreyWater341
04-08-2023 at 08:16 PM.
04-08-2023 at 08:16 PM.
Quote from Pragmatism :
Never understood why they don't add a small vented kerosene heater option. One gallon of kerosene would be enough- preheat the car with it, not too volatile, and probably enough for one day's use.
Chevy would be better off just lighting the whole car on fire with kerosene and call it a day. Saves them from future headaches
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JasonR9389
04-08-2023 at 08:18 PM.
04-08-2023 at 08:18 PM.
Quote from Eagles89 :
Sure, if you have $48,000 in cash laying around and can buy next week. I personally would go with the bolt. It's almost $20k cheaper and pretty much the same car.

The Bolt is tiny, and nowhere near the build quality of the least expensive Tesla model. There is a REASON it's $20k less! 🤡
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Pragmatism
04-08-2023 at 08:20 PM.
04-08-2023 at 08:20 PM.
Quote from GreyWater341 :
Chevy would be better off just lighting the whole car on fire with kerosene and call it a day. Saves them from future headaches
This is a website where people come to find deals or get accurate data. Your comments aren't helpful or funny. Go post on TikTok or 4chan.
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Knightshade
04-08-2023 at 08:21 PM.
04-08-2023 at 08:21 PM.
Quote from Eagles89 :
This doesn't apply to you as well?

Not really-- no. I've been quite consistent in my posts.

BTW if you're curious on the math of why I mentioned in my previous post IRA costs will be insane:


CBO estimated total cost of the clean vehicle credit from 2023 to 2031 at 7.541 billon dollars.

If we assumed $7500 per car that's... 1 million EVs before you've spent it all.

Tesla is likely to sell nearly that many, in the US alone, this year by itself (and near double that worldwide)


Even if we assumed $3750 per car (and again most Teslas get the full $7500) that's only 2 million cars.

Plus, ya know, other car makers DO sell a FEW EVs in the US besides Tesla.

So they're gonna blow through that 7.5 billion sometime either late THIS year or maybe early/mid 2024 if legacy continues to fail to ramp their production--- rather than by end of 2031 as estimated.

(even funnier- 85 million was the estimated cost for just 2023.... that's only 11,333 EVs getting $7500 each.... Tesla alone blew through that in like the first week of the year)



Now- that's just a CBO cost estimate used to encourage passing it.... so it's not like they 'run out' of money to keep paying it.... but eventually someone in congress might notice the hole it's burning in the budget.... (or they might not- they haven't seemed to care much about deficits in a long time...)
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04-08-2023 at 08:22 PM.
04-08-2023 at 08:22 PM.
Quote from HelloMoto1 :
And yet the battery comes with an 8 year warranty...lol...
I have a Toyota Camry with 300k. A 100K warranty on a car where the battery replacement cost is 20K isn't much of a bargain. At least with a hybrid the battery is only about 5k.
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04-08-2023 at 08:24 PM.
04-08-2023 at 08:24 PM.
Quote from Knightshade :
Not really-- no. I've been quite consistent in my posts.
This is funny because I see you trying to argue "improper maintenance" is the same as doing no maintenance. Just to be clear, all of your arguments you have ever made are clear and sound? All criticism of your points is not valid?
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04-08-2023 at 08:25 PM.
04-08-2023 at 08:25 PM.
Quote from Eagles89 :
This is funny because I see you trying to argue "improper maintenance" is the same as doing no maintenance.
Because it factually is.


Failing to maintain something- by doing no maintenance- is improper maintenance.

That's WHY THEY TELL YOU WHAT MAINTENANCE TO DO.

Or are you trying to argue that, say, driving an ICE vehicle for 100,000 miles without ever changing the oil is not improper maintenance?

Likewise tire makers are clear failure to DO NOTHING (ie not rotating your tires) can qualify as improper maintenance and they won't cover the treadlife warranty if it wears unevenly as a result of your improper maintenance


Tons more examples if you're still unclear on this.





Quote from Eagles89 :
Just to be clear, all of your arguments you have ever made are clear and sound? All criticism of your points is not valid?

If you have any you think that's not true of- feel free to quote my words and explain why you think that.

I've certainly done so- repeatedly- with yours LMAO



Quote from Pragmatism :
I have a Toyota Camry with 300k. A 100K warranty on a car where the battery replacement cost is 20K isn't much of a bargain. At least with a hybrid the battery is only about 5k.

I mean, it also has an engine and transmission and a bunch of OTHER expensive parts to fail that the EV doesn't....

Also while an older Model S battery might be 20k- a Model 3/Y one is not.


13k per this source-
https://www.findmyelectric.com/bl...explained/
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