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Panasonic Super Advanced 4-Position Quick Charger with LCD Indicator Panel and USB Charging Port - Save 21% - Lowest Price in 30 Days - $39.74

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Amazon has Panasonic BQ-CC65AKBBA Super Advanced Eneloop Pro and Eneloop 4-Position Quick Charger with LCD Indicator Panel and USB Charging Port.

Finally a Smart Charger from Panasonic for the Eneloop and Eneloop Pro Batteries!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product...0DER&psc=1 -Usually ships within 1 to 2 months

ADVANCED CHARGING CAPABILITES: The Panasonic CC65 battery charger individually charges each eneloop pro AA and AAA rechargeable battery, resulting in a perfect charge every time.

AA and AAA BATTERY CHARGING: Conveniently charges eneloop pro and eneloop AA and AAA rechargeable batteries.

VERSATILE USB CHARGING PORT: The CC65 battery charger also features a USB charging port; 5V 1a that can be used to charge other devices.

BATTERY DETECTION TECHNOLOGY: Each eneloop pro AA or AAA rechargeable battery is analyzed (when the battery is installed) and the charger station for that battery will end the charging process when each battery has been fully charged.

4 INDIVIDUAL LCD INDICATORS: Highlight charge / discharge time, battery cell voltage, and mAh discharge levels for each eneloop pro or eneloop rechargeable battery.

QUICK CHARGING TIMES: The CC65 battery charger will charge 4AA or 4AAA fully discharged eneloop pro in up to 4 hours, 2AA or 2AAA in 2 hours, or 4AA or 4AAA eneloop cells in up to 3 hours, 2AA or 2AAA in 1.5 hours
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Amazon has Panasonic BQ-CC65AKBBA Super Advanced Eneloop Pro and Eneloop 4-Position Quick Charger with LCD Indicator Panel and USB Charging Port.

Finally a Smart Charger from Panasonic for the Eneloop and Eneloop Pro Batteries!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product...0DER&psc=1 -Usually ships within 1 to 2 months

ADVANCED CHARGING CAPABILITES: The Panasonic CC65 battery charger individually charges each eneloop pro AA and AAA rechargeable battery, resulting in a perfect charge every time.

AA and AAA BATTERY CHARGING: Conveniently charges eneloop pro and eneloop AA and AAA rechargeable batteries.

VERSATILE USB CHARGING PORT: The CC65 battery charger also features a USB charging port; 5V 1a that can be used to charge other devices.

BATTERY DETECTION TECHNOLOGY: Each eneloop pro AA or AAA rechargeable battery is analyzed (when the battery is installed) and the charger station for that battery will end the charging process when each battery has been fully charged.

4 INDIVIDUAL LCD INDICATORS: Highlight charge / discharge time, battery cell voltage, and mAh discharge levels for each eneloop pro or eneloop rechargeable battery.

QUICK CHARGING TIMES: The CC65 battery charger will charge 4AA or 4AAA fully discharged eneloop pro in up to 4 hours, 2AA or 2AAA in 2 hours, or 4AA or 4AAA eneloop cells in up to 3 hours, 2AA or 2AAA in 1.5 hours

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Apr 10, 2023 01:22 AM
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The_Love_SpudApr 10, 2023 01:22 AM
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Note that the simpler BQ-CC55 has been a top-pick for the past four years at Wirecutter [nytimes.com]. It's hard to go wrong buying Panasonic, but do consider...

If you're just seeking basic charging, considerthe cost-reduced IKEA model [ikea.com]. Wirecutter dings it these days because the last cost-reduction dumped the folding power prongs, but they had previously given it high marks as a budget pick... and at $8 there's a case to be made that it still deserves that honor. Instead, the "also great" option Wirecutter selected has some interesting features (which might make it compelling for those charging on the go) and a price that presumably was low enough for them to skip identification of a separate budget pick.

The real gold-standard in this category used to come from La Crosse in models like the BC700 [lacrossetechnology.com] and BC1000 [lacrossetechnology.com], but they've largely exited the market. The valuable features you could previously buy at around this price included current control (for faster charging options or to elect slow-charging) selections per battery channel(!) and testing options. The Wirecutter article above highlights one such charger model still supporting that functionality (again, at around this same deal price).

Good luck!
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At this price, the Opus BT-C3400 is a better deal. It can charge and test lithium 18650 cells in addition to AA & AAA.
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JackieChenApr 10, 2023 02:40 AM
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My biggest concern is whether quick charging will decrease the life of the battery.

I use a tenavolt 12 bay charger right now but I feel like it's just a dumb charger. I miss my old lacrosse unit.
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gemApr 10, 2023 03:07 AM
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Quote from The_Love_Spud :
Note that the simpler BQ-CC55 has been a top-pick for the past four years at Wirecutter [nytimes.com]. It's hard to go wrong buying Panasonic, but do consider...

If you're just seeking basic charging, considerthe cost-reduced IKEA model [ikea.com]. Wirecutter dings it these days because the last cost-reduction dumped the folding power prongs, but they had previously given it high marks as a budget pick... and at $8 there's a case to be made that it still deserves that honor. Instead, the "also great" option Wirecutter selected has some interesting features (which might make it compelling for those charging on the go) and a price that presumably was low enough for them to skip identification of a separate budget pick.

The real gold-standard in this category used to come from La Crosse in models like the BC700 [lacrossetechnology.com] and BC1000 [lacrossetechnology.com], but they've largely exited the market. The valuable features you could previously buy at around this price included current control (for faster charging options or to elect slow-charging) selections per battery channel(!) and testing options. The Wirecutter article above highlights one such charger model still supporting that functionality (again, at around this same deal price).

Good luck!
Jon
Still using my bc900 from 15 years ago...it's weird there hasn't been anything with the same feature at the price point
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cnlsonApr 10, 2023 03:37 AM
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Quote from gem :
Still using my bc900 from 15 years ago...it's weird there hasn't been anything with the same feature at the price point
there has been a bunch, liitto kala has a ton of chargers that equal or better the bc900. Myself I have a vapcell s4 plus that can do everything the bc900 could and lion batteries as well.
The reason lacrosse is no longer making chargers stems from the fires that the bc900 and bc1000 had. That tends to dampen demand.

For about 10 years my charging consisted of the bc900, 2 opus btc 3100, and a nitecore d4. About 3 years ago the bc900 got given away since it had become a dust catcher, 1 of the 2 opus quit working, and the D4 screen died. So i went with a skyrc mc-3000 and the vapcell s4+ I have 2 of the bq cc-55's if i need to charge more than 8 at a time.
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Quote from JackieChen :
My biggest concern is whether quick charging will decrease the life of the battery.

I use a tenavolt 12 bay charger right now but I feel like it's just a dumb charger. I miss my old lacrosse unit.
Interestingly, NiMh batteries don't experience some of the negative effects of fast-charging associated with Li-Ion batteries (typically around aging) and the benefit of NiMh chargers which do not slow charge is the improved ability of said chargers to identify the end of charge through temperature and voltage monitoring (which is most critical for NiMh where overcharging is a primary contributor to aging). Slow is a relative term here, but for NiMh would be meant to indicate a very low current at a small fraction of the total capacity (so pairing a 2450 mAh battery with a 100 mA charge rate, for example.

The Wirecutter article's notes on the advanced Tenergy model highlights this indirectly [nytimes.com]. Those who have been buying in the NiMh space will recall when a single battery size (AA) could come in a wide range of capacities (even IKEA still sells LADDA AA in two capacities, though both are large enough to make even the fastest charging rate a fraction of the recommended maximum rate typical for NiMh).

The big trouble areas for NiMh are primarily chargers which use outdated methods for detecting overcharging, particularly if they default to very slow charging rates, and in very limited cases those chargers which provide an extremely high charging current to extremely limited capacity cells (such as AAA or cheaper/older AA NiMh). The good news is that these risks are mitigated in quality models like those from Panasonic.

Good luck!
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Ride_The_SkyApr 10, 2023 01:45 PM
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Quote from George_P_Burdell :
When Lexus introduced the LS400 in 1990, the fully loaded model was $39k and I haven't seen anything of equivalent build quality and price in last 30 years.
People downvoted you but most luxury makers don't make the same quality stuff anymore. Things just worked back then. Now Toyota are more reliable then Lexus because people who buy Lexus is not expected to keep the car 10 years, most luxury buyers change the car and go for newer models after 4-5 years, especially of there is a major redesign.
Sure we had fewer convenience or tech, but honestly when something drives right and fun, you don't need all that, especially the touch capacitive or screen madness for every single feature.
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slatelsnarpApr 10, 2023 02:25 PM
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The BQ-CC55 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JZJ5MKM right now around $18 does seem to be a better deal unless some feature of the CC65 is needed. I would have bought a CC65 if they were in stock, just because I like gadgets, but in terms of availability, cost, and features I need, the CC55 does look very good.
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jottectApr 10, 2023 02:55 PM
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Never been a big fan of "fast charging"!
Main charger is Opus BT C3400 (identical with 3100) but I'm always holding a Nitecore D2 charger just to revive 'dead' AA/AAA because at this particular task is better than Opus.
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unmeshApr 10, 2023 03:19 PM
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Quote from jottect :
Never been a big fan of "fast charging"!
Main charger is Opus BT C3400 (identical with 3100) but I'm always holding a Nitecore D2 charger just to revive 'dead' AA/AAA because at this particular task is better than Opus.
Could you say more about this ability to revive dead batteries?
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Quote from Ride_The_Sky :
People downvoted you but most luxury makers don't make the same quality stuff anymore. Things just worked back then. Now Toyota are more reliable then Lexus because people who buy Lexus is not expected to keep the car 10 years, most luxury buyers change the car and go for newer models after 4-5 years, especially of there is a major redesign.
Sure we had fewer convenience or tech, but honestly when something drives right and fun, you don't need all that, especially the touch capacitive or screen madness for every single feature.
The point I was trying to make as years progressed, somehow companies made their products worse and expensive so that consumption cycle is shorter than 1980s.
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harley48Apr 10, 2023 05:23 PM
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Quote from unmesh :
Could you say more about this ability to revive dead batteries?
If you discharge a NiMh to zero volts, many, if not most, "smart" chargers will NOT charge it and give some kind of fault.

Old 'dumb' chargers don't care if you put a stick in there...they try to charge it. Put a dead battery in for awhile, it generally will take on some charge, THEN you can transfer to the smart charger to finish. It will probably go from 0v > 1.37v or similar in a VERY short time. This is not a valid reading. This is due to the resistance going way up due to being dead. You may have to charge it at a low rate, and/or restart it a few times as it may terminate early (not really full). A couple cycles will likely improve it.

(Note-not a great idea to discharge to zero volts, especially with LSD batteries and even more if in series. Yes, it DOES harm them. You may end up pushing the current in reverse through the dead battery, and it may be truly dead after that.)
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Could you say more about this ability to revive dead batteries?
Please read here

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Quote from George_P_Burdell :
The point I was trying to make as years progressed, somehow companies made their products worse and expensive so that consumption cycle is shorter than 1980s.
And I agree 100%

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