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Looking through the list, here are some noteworthy options for those on a low-to-moderate budget:
RF 16mm f/2.8 STM @ $179.00 --- Great compact prime for RF system, very fair price. If you have zooms that are 24+, then you'll appreciate the little bit of extra width w/ solid quality this gives at a bargain price.
RF 100-400mm f/5.6-8 IS USM @ $399.00 --- Normally on sale for $550. Very quick to focus, very quiet, very stabilized lens with 5.5 stops of IS. Combine that with an IBIS-capable body, it's pretty good at this price point....even when factoring the horrible f/8 aperture. Pair this with an APS-C body (like the R7 w/ IBIS), and you'll get effective 640mm reach on a budget. A similar competitor is the Sigma 150-600mm, which goes on sale once or twice a year a $700.
EOS RP @ $599.00 --- I'm hesitant to suggest this, unless price is your only consideration. The R10 is $900-ish, the R8 replacement to the RP is $1500 and utterly blows this camera out of the water. But if max price is your only concern and you must have mirrorless, then it's not a terrible option. It was $600 in the 2022 holiday sale (w/ camera sling bag + grip extension), but the R8 wasn't announced yet. I personally feel this should be $100-200 cheaper given how many options are out there now.
EF 11-24mm f/4L USM @ $1699.00 --- Ok, this is NOT a budget option. But this is a pro-tier super-ultra-wide that has precious little distortion. If you do indoors work like architectural or real estate, this is your secret weapon. Your ace up your sleeve. You'll make this $1700 back in no time. Few wide lenses come close to this quality, and not really at this price point.
You'll get a very inexpensive (if slightly aging) full-frame body that's still regarded as pretty good.
The cons: you're giving up faster/stickier AF, faster burst rates, better video, and better low-light performance compared to the newer R8 @ $1500 (same form factor, full-frame). But at $900 less, only you can determine if any of that is a deal-breaker.
And in the future, you can upgrade to the R8 and all of the above lenses will be compatible. You can keep the RP body, or sell it. I don't have a crystal ball, but you may get $400-500 for it. Offsetting the price of the (then discounted?) R8....and you've used a nice RP all this time for a mere $100-200 cost. You can't rent a camera body for $50/year.
And you'll have two silent, quick focusing lenses -- the long of which uses Canon's nano-USM motor system. They're not "fast" optically at f/7.1 and f/8, but the aggressive on-lens IS helps eliminate handheld shake. Covering the range of 24mm to 400mm (same reach as buying 15mm-250mm labeled lenses for APS-C).
You'll have immense flexibility with these two lenses, as it covers everything from a fairly wide to telephoto. The 24-105 isn't too heavy to daily carry.
For anything needing better optical performance, you have a 50mm/1.8 (actual 50mm on a full frame, not a 50mm on a APS-C which is more like 80mm).
As time goes on, you can get a Canon EF-to-RF adapter and use any of the many awesome EF full-frame lenses that have been released since 1987, from Canon and countless other vendors. There are some real bargains and real amazing lenses to be had out there, and they'll be almost always 100% compatible with this setup.
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Other things you'll need:
1-2x additional batteries (only buy first-party canon). The RP tends to be a battery hog.
Third-party lens hood (Vello) for each lens. I strongly recommend against UV/protection filters, as they give serious ghosting/reflections from external light sources. Even expensive $70+ multicoated B+W filters are susceptible to it -- I know this personally, I've sunk more money into these pieces of glass just to ruin the image from the top tier lens I just bought. A lens hood is plenty of protection for normal use.
Camera bag of some sort (lowepro or ruggard are considered good brands, but it's highly personal).
At least 2x memory cards (about $30-40 for a v60 128gb SD, buy name-brands like Sandisk, Sony, Kingston, ProGrade, etc).
I'd also argue to get a better neckstrap, but that's a highly personal choice. Popular options are BlackRapid, Peak Design, ThinkTank, and Domke.
You probably already know this, but if you're doing real estate or architectural work and spending that much, get a tilt-shift. That is the real secret weapon.
I'm not sure what kind of real estate photography you're thinking of, but TS is definitely a tiny niche corner of that market. The suggested 11-24mm f/4L is probably overkill, but frankly is a pleasure to work with and worth the money just for that.
$20 off isn't that amazing -- if you have B&H's credit card with zero tax, it closes the gap between refurb and new even more.
The model with the control ring was in the $70-ish range a while back, and that sells for $150 on-sale/$200 new, $120 refurb now. So a 50%+ discount is more fair.....but $30 off? Sure it's something but amazing.
Ah, you're right. I was confusing it with the control ring version
Moved from Canon 40D to RP couple of years ago and really loved it for Potraits and landscape photography. Started taking professional pictures and upgraded to R6 Mark ii. Traded RP with someone for a 90D which I am planning to use for wildlife photography with Sigma 150-600mm EF lens.
AT this price it is a really good camera to get.. Get this and 50mm RF to start your journey into the photography.
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You'll get a very inexpensive (if slightly aging) full-frame body that's still regarded as pretty good.
The cons: you're giving up faster/stickier AF, faster burst rates, better video, and better low-light performance compared to the newer R8 @ $1500 (same form factor, full-frame). But at $900 less, only you can determine if any of that is a deal-breaker.
And in the future, you can upgrade to the R8 and all of the above lenses will be compatible. You can keep the RP body, or sell it. I don't have a crystal ball, but you may get $400-500 for it. Offsetting the price of the (then discounted?) R8....and you've used a nice RP all this time for a mere $100-200 cost. You can't rent a camera body for $50/year.
And you'll have two silent, quick focusing lenses -- the long of which uses Canon's nano-USM motor system. They're not "fast" optically at f/7.1 and f/8, but the aggressive on-lens IS helps eliminate handheld shake. Covering the range of 24mm to 400mm (same reach as buying 15mm-250mm labeled lenses for APS-C).
You'll have immense flexibility with these two lenses, as it covers everything from a fairly wide to telephoto. The 24-105 isn't too heavy to daily carry.
For anything needing better optical performance, you have a 50mm/1.8 (actual 50mm on a full frame, not a 50mm on a APS-C which is more like 80mm).
As time goes on, you can get a Canon EF-to-RF adapter and use any of the many awesome EF full-frame lenses that have been released since 1987, from Canon and countless other vendors. There are some real bargains and real amazing lenses to be had out there, and they'll be almost always 100% compatible with this setup.
[avoid EF-S and M lenses, as the former will incur a 1.6x crop factor w/ severe loss of resolution and the latter is entirely incompatible]
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Other things you'll need:
1-2x additional batteries (only buy first-party canon). The RP tends to be a battery hog.
Third-party lens hood (Vello) for each lens. I strongly recommend against UV/protection filters, as they give serious ghosting/reflections from external light sources. Even expensive $70+ multicoated B+W filters are susceptible to it -- I know this personally, I've sunk more money into these pieces of glass just to ruin the image from the top tier lens I just bought. A lens hood is plenty of protection for normal use.
Camera bag of some sort (lowepro or ruggard are considered good brands, but it's highly personal).
At least 2x memory cards (about $30-40 for a v60 128gb SD, buy name-brands like Sandisk, Sony, Kingston, ProGrade, etc).
I'd also argue to get a better neckstrap, but that's a highly personal choice. Popular options are BlackRapid, Peak Design, ThinkTank, and Domke.
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Debating between the refurb rp body and refurb r6 (I know huge price difference). I am still new to photography, but want something that's relatively future proof which is why I'd been considering the r6. Mainly focused on wildlife photography. Any thoughts or suggestions which one i should opt for?
EOS RP @ $599.00 --- I'm hesitant to suggest this, unless price is your only consideration. The R10 is $900-ish, the R8 replacement to the RP is $1500 and utterly blows this camera out of the water. But if max price is your only concern and you must have mirrorless, then it's not a terrible option. It was $600 in the 2022 holiday sale (w/ camera sling bag + grip extension), but the R8 wasn't announced yet. I personally feel this should be $100-200 cheaper given how many options are out there now.
Would you recommend this (with adapter) for someone upgrading from a T5i with various EF and EF-S lenses? Currently, have:
Full Frame:
24-105L
Sigma 150-600
50mm 1.8
Crop:
50-250mm
Sigma 10-20mm
I was considering just switching to Sony, but this might save quite a bit of money.. but then not sure if it's a good idea to use the adapter vs just buying new lenses. Using the Crop sensor lenses would essentially just be the same as buying something like an R10 with APS-C sensor right?
Debating between the refurb rp body and refurb r6 (I know huge price difference). I am still new to photography, but want something that's relatively future proof which is why I'd been considering the r6. Mainly focused on wildlife photography. Any thoughts or suggestions which one i should opt for?
Neither.
If you have the budget of $1500, consider the newer R8. It's the same form-factor as the RP (smaller body than the larger R6), but it has amazingly awesome sticky & fast AF. It's the same AF engine that's used in Canon's sport-tier R3 beast.
The R8 also has significantly better low light performance, along with with the same 40fps burst rate of the R3.
Both the RP and R8 aren't the strongest with video -- you can use them for it -- and with knowing the limitations, you can get some excellent results. But you'll find you can have an easier time from using any number of other cameras out there, especially compared to the RP.
Would you recommend this (with adapter) for someone upgrading from a T5i with various EF and EF-S lenses? Currently, have:
Full Frame:
24-105L
Sigma 150-600
50mm 1.8
Crop:
50-250mm
Sigma 10-20mm
I was considering just switching to Sony, but this might save quite a bit of money.. but then not sure if it's a good idea to use the adapter vs just buying new lenses. Using the Crop sensor lenses would essentially just be the same as buying something like an R10 with APS-C sensor right?
You have some nice glass there. The 24-105L is excellent. I have the same Sigma 150-600. And the 10-20mm crop isn't bad either.
If you get the adapter, the EF-S lenses (crop) will incur a crop on the full-frame RP, effectively lowering the megapixel resolution of the image. If you're doing web, small prints, and not pixel-peeping -- you'll be entirely fine.
Get the adapter with the control ring, as you can configure it for additional functions like ISO. That costs $150-200 new, and it enables you to use any EF/EF-S lens made since 1987 with any current R-series body. That's a massive library of cheap, expensive, crappy, and amazing lenses to choose from.
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RF 16mm f/2.8 STM @ $179.00 --- Great compact prime for RF system, very fair price. If you have zooms that are 24+, then you'll appreciate the little bit of extra width w/ solid quality this gives at a bargain price.
RF 100-400mm f/5.6-8 IS USM @ $399.00 --- Normally on sale for $550. Very quick to focus, very quiet, very stabilized lens with 5.5 stops of IS. Combine that with an IBIS-capable body, it's pretty good at this price point....even when factoring the horrible f/8 aperture. Pair this with an APS-C body (like the R7 w/ IBIS), and you'll get effective 640mm reach on a budget. A similar competitor is the Sigma 150-600mm, which goes on sale once or twice a year a $700.
EOS RP @ $599.00 --- I'm hesitant to suggest this, unless price is your only consideration. The R10 is $900-ish, the R8 replacement to the RP is $1500 and utterly blows this camera out of the water. But if max price is your only concern and you must have mirrorless, then it's not a terrible option. It was $600 in the 2022 holiday sale (w/ camera sling bag + grip extension), but the R8 wasn't announced yet. I personally feel this should be $100-200 cheaper given how many options are out there now.
EF 11-24mm f/4L USM @ $1699.00 --- Ok, this is NOT a budget option. But this is a pro-tier super-ultra-wide that has precious little distortion. If you do indoors work like architectural or real estate, this is your secret weapon. Your ace up your sleeve. You'll make this $1700 back in no time. Few wide lenses come close to this quality, and not really at this price point.
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$220 RF 24-105mm (https://www.usa.canon.c
$400 RF 100-400mm (https://www.usa.canon.c
$120 RF 50mm/1.8 -- nifty fifty (https://www.usa.canon.c
$600 RP Body (https://www.usa.canon.c
You'll get a very inexpensive (if slightly aging) full-frame body that's still regarded as pretty good.
The cons: you're giving up faster/stickier AF, faster burst rates, better video, and better low-light performance compared to the newer R8 @ $1500 (same form factor, full-frame). But at $900 less, only you can determine if any of that is a deal-breaker.
And in the future, you can upgrade to the R8 and all of the above lenses will be compatible. You can keep the RP body, or sell it. I don't have a crystal ball, but you may get $400-500 for it. Offsetting the price of the (then discounted?) R8....and you've used a nice RP all this time for a mere $100-200 cost. You can't rent a camera body for $50/year.
And you'll have two silent, quick focusing lenses -- the long of which uses Canon's nano-USM motor system. They're not "fast" optically at f/7.1 and f/8, but the aggressive on-lens IS helps eliminate handheld shake. Covering the range of 24mm to 400mm (same reach as buying 15mm-250mm labeled lenses for APS-C).
You'll have immense flexibility with these two lenses, as it covers everything from a fairly wide to telephoto. The 24-105 isn't too heavy to daily carry.
For anything needing better optical performance, you have a 50mm/1.8 (actual 50mm on a full frame, not a 50mm on a APS-C which is more like 80mm).
As time goes on, you can get a Canon EF-to-RF adapter and use any of the many awesome EF full-frame lenses that have been released since 1987, from Canon and countless other vendors. There are some real bargains and real amazing lenses to be had out there, and they'll be almost always 100% compatible with this setup.
-------
Other things you'll need:
1-2x additional batteries (only buy first-party canon). The RP tends to be a battery hog.
Third-party lens hood (Vello) for each lens. I strongly recommend against UV/protection filters, as they give serious ghosting/reflections from external light sources. Even expensive $70+ multicoated B+W filters are susceptible to it -- I know this personally, I've sunk more money into these pieces of glass just to ruin the image from the top tier lens I just bought. A lens hood is plenty of protection for normal use.
Camera bag of some sort (lowepro or ruggard are considered good brands, but it's highly personal).
At least 2x memory cards (about $30-40 for a v60 128gb SD, buy name-brands like Sandisk, Sony, Kingston, ProGrade, etc).
I'd also argue to get a better neckstrap, but that's a highly personal choice. Popular options are BlackRapid, Peak Design, ThinkTank, and Domke.
*Update, called Canon and they're issuing a refund. Super easy process and they are always very helpful and friendly.
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Or calling Canon and asking for the discount and providing the serial number of a previously owned Canon camera.
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The model with the control ring was in the $70-ish range a while back, and that sells for $150 on-sale/$200 new, $120 refurb now. So a 50%+ discount is more fair.....but $30 off? Sure it's something but amazing.
AT this price it is a really good camera to get.. Get this and 50mm RF to start your journey into the photography.
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$220 RF 24-105mm (https://www.usa.canon.c
$400 RF 100-400mm (https://www.usa.canon.c
$120 RF 50mm/1.8 -- nifty fifty (https://www.usa.canon.c
$600 RP Body (https://www.usa.canon.c
You'll get a very inexpensive (if slightly aging) full-frame body that's still regarded as pretty good.
The cons: you're giving up faster/stickier AF, faster burst rates, better video, and better low-light performance compared to the newer R8 @ $1500 (same form factor, full-frame). But at $900 less, only you can determine if any of that is a deal-breaker.
And in the future, you can upgrade to the R8 and all of the above lenses will be compatible. You can keep the RP body, or sell it. I don't have a crystal ball, but you may get $400-500 for it. Offsetting the price of the (then discounted?) R8....and you've used a nice RP all this time for a mere $100-200 cost. You can't rent a camera body for $50/year.
And you'll have two silent, quick focusing lenses -- the long of which uses Canon's nano-USM motor system. They're not "fast" optically at f/7.1 and f/8, but the aggressive on-lens IS helps eliminate handheld shake. Covering the range of 24mm to 400mm (same reach as buying 15mm-250mm labeled lenses for APS-C).
You'll have immense flexibility with these two lenses, as it covers everything from a fairly wide to telephoto. The 24-105 isn't too heavy to daily carry.
For anything needing better optical performance, you have a 50mm/1.8 (actual 50mm on a full frame, not a 50mm on a APS-C which is more like 80mm).
As time goes on, you can get a Canon EF-to-RF adapter and use any of the many awesome EF full-frame lenses that have been released since 1987, from Canon and countless other vendors. There are some real bargains and real amazing lenses to be had out there, and they'll be almost always 100% compatible with this setup.
[avoid EF-S and M lenses, as the former will incur a 1.6x crop factor w/ severe loss of resolution and the latter is entirely incompatible]
-------
Other things you'll need:
1-2x additional batteries (only buy first-party canon). The RP tends to be a battery hog.
Third-party lens hood (Vello) for each lens. I strongly recommend against UV/protection filters, as they give serious ghosting/reflections from external light sources. Even expensive $70+ multicoated B+W filters are susceptible to it -- I know this personally, I've sunk more money into these pieces of glass just to ruin the image from the top tier lens I just bought. A lens hood is plenty of protection for normal use.
Camera bag of some sort (lowepro or ruggard are considered good brands, but it's highly personal).
At least 2x memory cards (about $30-40 for a v60 128gb SD, buy name-brands like Sandisk, Sony, Kingston, ProGrade, etc).
I'd also argue to get a better neckstrap, but that's a highly personal choice. Popular options are BlackRapid, Peak Design, ThinkTank, and Domke.
Full Frame:
24-105L
Sigma 150-600
50mm 1.8
Crop:
50-250mm
Sigma 10-20mm
I was considering just switching to Sony, but this might save quite a bit of money.. but then not sure if it's a good idea to use the adapter vs just buying new lenses. Using the Crop sensor lenses would essentially just be the same as buying something like an R10 with APS-C sensor right?
If you have the budget of $1500, consider the newer R8. It's the same form-factor as the RP (smaller body than the larger R6), but it has amazingly awesome sticky & fast AF. It's the same AF engine that's used in Canon's sport-tier R3 beast.
The R8 also has significantly better low light performance, along with with the same 40fps burst rate of the R3.
Both the RP and R8 aren't the strongest with video -- you can use them for it -- and with knowing the limitations, you can get some excellent results. But you'll find you can have an easier time from using any number of other cameras out there, especially compared to the RP.
Full Frame:
24-105L
Sigma 150-600
50mm 1.8
Crop:
50-250mm
Sigma 10-20mm
I was considering just switching to Sony, but this might save quite a bit of money.. but then not sure if it's a good idea to use the adapter vs just buying new lenses. Using the Crop sensor lenses would essentially just be the same as buying something like an R10 with APS-C sensor right?
If you get the adapter, the EF-S lenses (crop) will incur a crop on the full-frame RP, effectively lowering the megapixel resolution of the image. If you're doing web, small prints, and not pixel-peeping -- you'll be entirely fine.
Get the adapter with the control ring, as you can configure it for additional functions like ISO. That costs $150-200 new, and it enables you to use any EF/EF-S lens made since 1987 with any current R-series body. That's a massive library of cheap, expensive, crappy, and amazing lenses to choose from.
For example, the EF-S 55-250 was $99, EF 85mm/1.8 $179, and RF 24-105 STM $119.
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Coming from a T2i. Planning to use existing ES lenses (with adapter).Not planning to film video.
R6 or EOS 5 mark IV ?
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