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Pennzoil Platinum Full Synthetic 0W-16 Motor Oil (5-Quart, Single) - $20.98 Amazon

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Good for newer Toyota cars.

https://www.amazon.com/Pennzoil-5...B07RZMJLDJ Temporarily out of stock.
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Apr 24, 2023 05:46 PM
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avhokieApr 24, 2023 05:46 PM
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Quote from pr1nyc1 :
Depends on the varient. But yes 5W30 has jumped in price.

So has 0w20, if you can even find it in stock.
Apr 24, 2023 05:59 PM
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bucdanApr 24, 2023 05:59 PM
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Quote from seanleeforever :
lol, 0w-16... to get an extra 0.1% MPG, it is worth it? this is entirely for CAFE requiremnts.

keep in mind the NONE US Camry, like the Austra, that runs the same 2AR-FE engine, recommend 0W-20, 5W-20 5-30W for below 0F environment, and 15W-40 for above 10F environment.

you cannot tell me toyota put 0-W16 with their engine life span in mind, same as "life time" transmission oil.

https://www.toyotanation.com/thre...62&slide=0 [toyotanation.com]
Yep. Look to Australia to figure out what range of oil you can legitimately use in your cars to get away from the dumb CAFE rules.
Apr 24, 2023 07:02 PM
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CrimsonFeather358Apr 24, 2023 07:02 PM
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Quote from avhokie :
fark these greedy ass companies. Ultra platinum has gone from $20-25 for a 5 quart bottle to $50-60.
Really! That's a shame. I had been putting Ultra Platinum in my WRX for a few years, until it seemingly vanished off the face of the planet. Haven't been able to find it anywhere, so I went back to (not Ultra) Platinum.
Apr 24, 2023 07:05 PM
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semjaseApr 24, 2023 07:05 PM
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Just add some gasoline to 5w-30 to make 0w-16. Cleans your motor too.

(Kidding of course, but I agree with others here that 16 weight oil has to be 100% about pumping efficiency / MPG, at the cost of engine protection. That said, most equipment will fail before a maintained motor loses compression or bearings.)
Apr 24, 2023 07:34 PM
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gathermewoolApr 24, 2023 07:34 PM
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Quote from Phlont :
Can I put this is a 2013 Prius that takes 0w20???
Is that the generation that burns oil? The gains by switching from 0W-20 to 16 will be negligible. 20 is also usually cheaper and more readily available.
Apr 24, 2023 07:38 PM
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gathermewoolApr 24, 2023 07:38 PM
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Quote from semjase :
Just add some gasoline to 5w-30 to make 0w-16. Cleans your motor too.

(Kidding of course, but I agree with others here that 16 weight oil has to be 100% about pumping efficiency / MPG, at the cost of engine protection. That said, most equipment will fail before a maintained motor loses compression or bearings.)
People said the same thing about 0W-anything (ignorantly) and more recently 0W-20 in large trucks. I haven't personally heard of many failures. If it's designed from the get-go with a lower operating viscosity then I would have zero issues running it. Way back when XW-20 was BACK-spec'd to older applications? That's a big nope from me!
Apr 24, 2023 07:50 PM
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SixPackDaddyApr 24, 2023 07:50 PM
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If I mix with 10 w 30 will I end up with something closer to 5 w 20 ish?
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Apr 24, 2023 07:53 PM
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sKwiDApr 24, 2023 07:53 PM
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https://www.toyotanation.com/thre...6.1713299/ (Post 20)

Oil analysis shows that Toyota has about 7x molybdenum and 2x boron compared to Mobil 1. I prefer Toyota OEM 0w-16 and definitely stock up when I can. However, prices have gone up and longer able to purchase cases from parts.toyota.com. I recently purchased 2 cases (12qt) for $81 AC FS from OKPetroleum [okpetroleummarketplace.com]. Highly recommend if you want to stick with TGMO.
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Apr 24, 2023 07:55 PM
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amploudApr 24, 2023 07:55 PM
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Thanks, picked up a couple for the Camry.
Apr 24, 2023 08:17 PM
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JorgonVonMuckterApr 24, 2023 08:17 PM
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Quote from johnrichterfindlay :
If I mix with 10 w 30 will I end up with something closer to 5 w 20 ish?
Prolly, math checks out.
Apr 24, 2023 08:20 PM
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BrainDocApr 24, 2023 08:20 PM
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Quote from gathermewool :
Is that the generation that burns oil? The gains by switching from 0W-20 to 16 will be negligible. 20 is also usually cheaper and more readily available.
I have a 2013 Prius. It does not burn oil.
Apr 24, 2023 08:30 PM
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gathermewoolApr 24, 2023 08:30 PM
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Quote from BrainDoc :
I have a 2013 Prius. It does not burn oil.
Excellent! You're doing something right then. I'd keep doing whatever that something is.
Apr 24, 2023 08:58 PM
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dragon3363Apr 24, 2023 08:58 PM
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Would this be a step down compared to Mobil? I've always used Mobil full synthetic on my Camry. 133k miles no issues.
Apr 24, 2023 09:11 PM
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SlickStag860Apr 24, 2023 09:11 PM
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Quote from jak559 :
Couldn't find the rebate but did find this offer for a $20 gift card if you buy two 5 quart bottles. They don't have Amazon listed as a retailer though.

https://www.pennzoil.com/en_us/pr...jM5MV85My8
I did this last year and they did not send the gift card. How do I follow up?

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Apr 24, 2023 09:23 PM
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Quote from seanleeforever :
lol, 0w-16... to get an extra 0.1% MPG, it is worth it? this is entirely for CAFE requiremnts.

keep in mind the NONE US Camry, like the Australia, that runs the same 2AR-FE engine, recommend 0W-20, 5W-20 5-30W for below 0F environment, and 15W-40 for above 10F environment.

you cannot tell me toyota put 0-W16 with their engine life span in mind, same as "life time" transmission oil.

https://www.toyotanation.com/thre...62&slide=0
This. And Honda is the same way. They recommend one viscosity in Japan and then thinner oils here in the EPA regulated states for the same engine.
Where I live, the temp is about the same as Japan, rarely ever below 32 F with a median of 68

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