Apple MacBook Pro 16.2" Laptop (Late 2021): M1 Max Chip, 64GB RAM, 4TB NVMe

seahawks55

May 23, 2023 03:28 AM

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seahawks55May 23, 2023 03:28 AM

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Quote from JonL4209

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except for the price, everything looks great.

Right? It's a year and a half old.

Lando_X

May 23, 2023 03:29 AM

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Lando_XMay 23, 2023 03:29 AM

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Just snagged one. Honestly, 4tb, 64gb ram is overkill; but it is a dream config especially at $1700 off!

yujie

May 23, 2023 03:40 AM

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yujieMay 23, 2023 03:40 AM

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Quote from iindigo

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Grabbed one, nice deal. For the same price as the $3200 64GB/2TB M1 Max Mac Studio, you're getting the same CPU, GPU, and RAM, but with 2TB extra storage, a really nice display, portability, and better repairability (the Studio isn't as friendly to being taken apart).

It's a bit overkill (I only need 2TB/32GB), but discounts this deep on BTO configs are rare and its specs will help it hold its aftermarket value better than the more common models.

If the iMac pro is any guide, the fully speced model might not hold value well. Just a week ago, i bought a fully speced iMac pro very good condition out of eBay for about $1550 before shipping and tax. The original price tag for this 2017 Apple iMac Pro 27-inch 2.3GHz Intel 18-Core, 128GB DRAM, 4TB SSD, Vega 64 16GB is about $14,000 before tax. Luckily $3,200 isn't anything crazy like iMac pro here but you could easily lose $2,500 after 6 years of usage.

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JonL4209

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May 23, 2023 03:49 AM

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JonL4209

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May 23, 2023 03:49 AM

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Quote from yujie

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If the iMac pro is any guide, the fully speced model might not hold value well. Just a week ago, i bought a fully speced iMac pro very good condition out of eBay for about $1550 before shipping and tax. The original price tag for this 2017 Apple iMac Pro 27-inch 2.3GHz Intel 18-Core, 128GB DRAM, 4TB SSD, Vega 64 16GB is about $14,000 before tax. Luckily $3,200 isn't anything crazy like iMac pro here but you could easily lose $2,500 after 6 years of usage.

I like your true-world example. Just as iPhones. when you do a trade-in, the base and the extra storage you paid for the premier models will have a negligible diff in the trade-in value. A lot of people will think double the memory is like double the entire product price, but the fact is not.

Well, I am struggling here as I badly want a fully loaded machine, but I wish it is a PC-like thing that we can config and update on our own.

Long live the IBM PC... ironically they even ceased out of the pc market and sold it to Lenovo.

deadgnat

May 23, 2023 04:51 AM

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deadgnatMay 23, 2023 04:51 AM

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Quote from General_Klinger

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Since when does Costco start a trade-in program?

it's been around for a few years. Prices are competitive with Best Buy and amazon. It's done by a third party company but the partnership with costco means they pay by Costco gift card.last year I traded in two different 8 year old iPad Air 2s. They paid $55 each, which was very good for old tech.

link to trade in program:
https://www.costco.com/trade-in-p...hobio.html

iindigo

May 23, 2023 05:00 AM

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iindigoMay 23, 2023 05:00 AM

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Quote from yujie

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If the iMac pro is any guide, the fully speced model might not hold value well. Just a week ago, i bought a fully speced iMac pro very good condition out of eBay for about $1550 before shipping and tax. The original price tag for this 2017 Apple iMac Pro 27-inch 2.3GHz Intel 18-Core, 128GB DRAM, 4TB SSD, Vega 64 16GB is about $14,000 before tax. Luckily $3,200 isn't anything crazy like iMac pro here but you could easily lose $2,500 after 6 years of usage.

All true, but the iMac Pro being an Intel machine no doubt negatively impacts its resale price. It came from the era where Intel was stuck making 14nm CPUs, which allows an M1 Air to trounce the 18-core iMac Pro in single-core performance and an M2 Air to beat it in multicore performance. Apple is also probably done releasing new Intel Macs at this point, meaning that the clock is ticking on continued software updates for Intel Macs.

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ThaiM

May 23, 2023 05:11 AM

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ThaiMMay 23, 2023 05:11 AM

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Complete overkill. Got one, thanks.

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jackone

May 23, 2023 05:44 AM

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jackoneMay 23, 2023 05:44 AM

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Was about to jump on the deal, but no dvi or vga, pass.

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jrricky

May 23, 2023 05:53 AM

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jrrickyMay 23, 2023 05:53 AM

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Quote from SmartHaddock3847

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Be strong. These will eventually be 1699

If that happens within a year I will be ecstatic!

dvl2005

May 23, 2023 06:19 AM

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dvl2005May 23, 2023 06:19 AM

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my macbook no longer got updates after 10 years and now cannot install the latest version of xcode. since this macbook is already 2 years old, that means it will only be supported for another 8 years. kind of defeats the purpose of paying extra $$ to future proof your purchase...

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meetjasper

May 23, 2023 08:10 AM

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meetjasperMay 23, 2023 08:10 AM

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Quote from slimdunkin117

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your mindset is all wrong..
this is a machine for professionals to get work done. It's not some toy you get cause you have money

lol

I know what it is. I was saying I cannot spend that kind of money to do software development. I can spend it only when I have million dollars so I can comfortably spend it on such expensive Macbook.

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yujie

May 23, 2023 08:49 AM

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yujieMay 23, 2023 08:49 AM

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Quote from JonL4209

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I like your true-world example. Just as iPhones. when you do a trade-in, the base and the extra storage you paid for the premier models will have a negligible diff in the trade-in value. A lot of people will think double the memory is like double the entire product price, but the fact is not.

Well, I am struggling here as I badly want a fully loaded machine, but I wish it is a PC-like thing that we can config and update on our own.

Long live the IBM PC... ironically they even ceased out of the pc market and sold it to Lenovo.

I used to own an IBM PC in the late 1990s and have spent numerous hours on it. Very nice solid machine. Brings me very good memory. A fully loaded machine is more about bragging rights if lets say 64gb memory and 4tb ssd is way over what you require for your work. $3,200 isn't terrible, however.

yujie

May 23, 2023 08:58 AM

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yujieMay 23, 2023 08:58 AM

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Quote from iindigo

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All true, but the iMac Pro being an Intel machine no doubt negatively impacts its resale price. It came from the era where Intel was stuck making 14nm CPUs, which allows an M1 Air to trounce the 18-core iMac Pro in single-core performance and an M2 Air to beat it in multicore performance. Apple is also probably done releasing new Intel Macs at this point, meaning that the clock is ticking on continued software updates for Intel Macs.

All valid points. In my use case, I found myself needing an Intel machine because I can install some Window programs including some PC games I like to play from time to time. Wow, I don't even know M2 air beat it in multicore performance. From Youtube reviews, i noticed this fully loaded iMac pro trade blows with M2 in different benchmarks. I know the clock is ticking on continued software updates but expect it to be another 3 or 4 years before they stop. Not sure how much I will lose on my purchase price of $1,755(total price). I personally own the 16 inch M1 max 24 core, 32gb ram and 512 gb ssd from the same vendor. The battery isn't that great but otherwise very solid especially the pro motion.

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slimdunkin117

May 23, 2023 11:54 AM

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Quote from meetjasper

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lol

I know what it is. I was saying I cannot spend that kind of money to do software development. I can spend it only when I have million dollars so I can comfortably spend it on such expensive Macbook.

you can spend it there's something called credit cards..
pans this type of machine would be needed for people to make them work faster anyway

slimdunkin117

May 23, 2023 12:01 PM

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Quote from dvl2005

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my macbook no longer got updates after 10 years and now cannot install the latest version of xcode. since this macbook is already 2 years old, that means it will only be supported for another 8 years. kind of defeats the purpose of paying extra $$ to future proof your purchase...

your MacBook is a 2014? What model is it exactly

Product Description:	Key Features Apple M1 Max 10-Core Chip 64GB Unified RAM \| 4TB SSD 16.2" 3456x2234 Liquid Retina XDR Screen 32-Core GPU \| 16-Core Neural Engine Show More Built for all types of creatives, including developers, photographers, filmmakers, 3D artists, music producers, and more, the Apple 16.2" MacBook Pro with M1 Max Chip is the ultimate pro mobile workstation for the ultimate user. More Details
Product SKU:	1668351
UPC:	194252904329
2.5" Slots:	None
AC Input Power:	100 to 240 VAC, 50 / 60 Hz
Aspect Ratio:	16:10
Audio I/O:	1 x 1/8" / 3.5 mm Headphone Output
Battery Chemistry:	Lithium-Ion Polymer (LiPo)
Bluetooth:	5.0
Box Dimensions (LxWxH):	17.4 x 13.3 x 3"
Buffered Memory:	No
Built-In Microphones:	3
Built-In Speakers:	6 and Subwoofer
CPU:	Performance 8-Core Efficiency Dual-Core
Capacity:	Non-Removable:100 Wh
Certifications:	ENERGY STAR*as per Manufacturer
Contrast Ratio:	1,000,000:1
Dimensions:	14.01 x 9.77 x 0.66" / 35.59 x 24.82 x 1.68 cm
Display:	1 x HDMI 2.0 Output
ECC Memory:	No
Estimated Battery Life:	21 Hours
Ethernet:	None
Finish:	Glossy with Antireflective Coating
GPS:	None
GPU:	Apple (32-Core)
Graphics Type:	Integrated
Keyboard:	78-Key Notebook Keyboard with Backlight and Fingerprint Reader
MU-MIMO Support:	Yes
Maximum Brightness:	500 nits / cd/m2 (Sustained in SDR Mode)1000 nits / cd/m2 (Sustained in HDR Mode)1600 nits / cd/m2 (Peak in HDR Mode)
Media/Memory Card Slot:	Single Slot:SD/SDHC/SDXC (UHS-II)
Memory Configuration:	64 GB (Onboard)
Memory Type:	Embedded DRAM
Model Year:	Late 2021
NFC:	No
Operating Humidity:	0 to 90%
Operating System:	macOS
Operating Temperature:	50 to 95°F / 10 to 35°C
Optical Drive:	None
Package Weight:	8.475 lb
Panel Type:	Mini-LED LCD
Pointing Device:	Force Touch Trackpad
Power Supply:	140 W with Magsafe
Processor:	Apple M1 Max
Refresh Rate:	120 Hz
Resolution:	3456 x 2234
Security:	Fingerprint Reader
Size:	16.2"
Solid State Storage:	1 x 4 TB Proprietary Apple NVMe
Total Installed Capacity:	4 TB
Total Installed Memory:	64 GB
Touchscreen:	No
USB Type-C:	3 x Thunderbolt 4 (Supports DisplayPort/HDMI/DVI and 100 W Power Delivery)
Variable Refresh Technology:	Apple ProMotion
Webcam:	User-Facing:1080p
Weight:	4.8 lb / 2.2 kg
Wi-Fi:	Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax)

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