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frontpagekrispytreat007 posted Jun 02, 2023 09:30 PM
frontpagekrispytreat007 posted Jun 02, 2023 09:30 PM

2023 Tesla Model 3 w/ 3 Months Supercharging + $7500 Federal Tax Credit

(For Qualifying Buyers)

from $37830

$40,240

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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

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  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

Editor's Notes

Written by qwikwit | Staff
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
  • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.

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Eagles89
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You forgot to mention the $1390 destination fee, $425 for wall connector, $230 for mobile charger, $250 non-refundable order fee.
scn312
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Tesla Model 3 RWD starts at $40,240 but is now eligible for the full $7,500 federal tax credit (income limits apply). Previously, it was only eligible for $3,750. This makes the starting price $32,740 after tax credit.

https://www.tesla.com/model3/design

Deal is even sweeter if you live in a state with additional credits:

VT: $26,320
MA: $26,830
PA: $27,330
RI: $27,820
DE: $27,820
NY: $28,320
CA: $28,330
CO: $28,330
CT: $29,030
ME: $29,320

Full tax credit details below, but the following income limits apply:

$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after
Knightshade
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NO IT DOES NOT.

Withholding is totally irrelevant to qualifying for the credit.

If you're unclear on this go read a 1040.

The part where you compute tax liability is lines 16 through 24.

THAT is where the $7500 EV credit comes off.

Your withholdings aren't even looked at until after that on line 25+







This is also not correct.

The Child Tax Credit is worth a maximum of $2,000 per qualifying child. Up to $1,600 is refundable for the 2023 tax year.

Refundable credits are computed AFTER non-refundable ones-- so the CTC is only "worth" $400 off your tax burden for these purposes- the $1600 left is refundable.

Thus if you had say $7900 in tax burden and one CTC and one EV credit, your tax burden would go to $0 and you'd get a full refund of the $1600 refundable part of the CTC


Source:
https://www.nerdwallet.com/articl...tax-credit

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Jun 03, 2023 09:58 PM
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sujaisundarJun 03, 2023 09:58 PM
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Quote from scn312 :
Tesla Model 3 RWD starts at $40,240 but is now eligible for the full $7,500 federal tax credit (income limits apply). Previously, it was only eligible for $3,750. This makes the starting price $32,740 after tax credit.

https://www.tesla.com/model3/design

Deal is even sweeter if you live in a state with additional credits:

VT: $26,320
MA: $26,830
PA: $27,330
RI: $27,820
DE: $27,820
NY: $28,320
CA: $28,330
CO: $28,330
CT: $29,030
ME: $29,320

Full tax credit details below, but the following income limits apply:

$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after
Hi

Can you give some details about how it is $27,330 for PA

Thanks in advance
Jun 03, 2023 09:59 PM
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619boyJun 03, 2023 09:59 PM
345 Posts
That's my price range for being middle class.
Jun 03, 2023 10:03 PM
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221bJun 03, 2023 10:03 PM
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Quote from sdoberma :
I mean, I'm always wondering how this ev credit works. I'm single and make less than 150k a year.
Hate when people include tax credits into price that not everyone qualifies for without all the info, it's a little misleading in these ev/Tesla threads. This requires a tax liability of $7500 or more that you get after you file and is not point of sale. Also max income of $150-300k for single/married filers to qualify.
Jun 03, 2023 10:06 PM
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mikecruzJun 03, 2023 10:06 PM
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EV vehicles are a sham. Nothing green about disposing lithium batteries or the fossil fuels burned in powering the grid that charges them. And not to mention the 6 fire trucks of fire retardant chemicals it takes to put out the battery fire from a traffic collision.
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Jun 03, 2023 10:08 PM
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HashamAJun 03, 2023 10:08 PM
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Quote from 221b :
Hate when people include tax credits into price that not everyone qualifies for without all the info, it's a little misleading in these ev/Tesla threads. This requires a tax liability of $7500 or more that you get after you file and is not point of sale. Also max income of $150-300k for single/married filers to qualify.
It's misleading to the low paying folks who don't have a high tax liability. I remember seeing a post a few years ago about a college student bringing up how he got $500 back instead of $7500.
Jun 03, 2023 10:09 PM
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sujaisundarJun 03, 2023 10:09 PM
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Quote from Cecerious :
Don't know how post like these even get thumbs up. Must be Tesla haters.

1: Destination fees are common when purchasing any car.

2: Last time I checked, gas pumps aren't included to be installed in your driveway when purchasing an ICE vehicle.

While it's nice to have charging equipment included, it's really a drop in the bucket compared to the overall purchase. At lease you can buy one from anywhere else and use the included J1772 to Tesla/NACS adapter. Not forced to buy from Tesla.

3: The order fee goes towards the purchase price. So it's not an additional cost unless you decide to back out.
Order fee don't go towards purchase price
It won't reduce anything from MSRP

It's something like the "Destination charge" we are paying in advance
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Jun 03, 2023 10:11 PM
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CherubJun 03, 2023 10:11 PM
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Quote from PurpleMeerkat3190 :
Sorry if this a dumb question, but if you qualify for the tax credit, does it just go towards your taxes you file at the end of the year? So it really doesn't go towards let's say the "loan" ? Or am I getting it mixed up
It's not a dumb question. While the credit is applied to your total tax liability for the tax year in which you bought the EV, and you could think of the credit as not being "paid" until your taxes are reconciled (which is what you are really doing when you file your return), there are ways to benefit from the credit earlier.

If you are subject to payroll withholding, you can change your Form W-4 so that less federal taxes are withheld, thus retaining more of each paycheck through the year.

Even better, if you pay estimated quarterly taxes, you can effectively reduce your payments in anticipation of the credit. For example, assuming the credit really will be $7,500, I will pay $2,500 less in each of the three quarters remaining in the 2023 tax year.

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Jun 03, 2023 10:12 PM
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furai2017Jun 03, 2023 10:12 PM
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quality and program still suck.
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Jun 03, 2023 10:15 PM
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kingsfan626Jun 03, 2023 10:15 PM
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Quote from gibsonbass :
Even better if you qualify $2000 CA tax rebate
When I go on the website it's showing that I qualify for $7500 state because of the household and income. Does anyone know if it's hard capped at $2000 or are they just using the minimum saved if you qualify?
Jun 03, 2023 10:16 PM
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joon82Jun 03, 2023 10:16 PM
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Dont forget to check insurance. I was shopping to swap my commuter to model 3 but found out insurance is $200 for just model 3 alone(right now Im paying $120 for lexus and bmw M3).
Jun 03, 2023 10:17 PM
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newbharryJun 03, 2023 10:17 PM
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Quote from scn312 :
Tesla Model 3 RWD starts at $40,240 but is now eligible for the full $7,500 federal tax credit (income limits apply). Previously, it was only eligible for $3,750. This makes the starting price $32,740 after tax credit.

https://www.tesla.com/model3/design

Deal is even sweeter if you live in a state with additional credits:

VT: $26,320
MA: $26,830
PA: $27,330
RI: $27,820
DE: $27,820
NY: $28,320
CA: $28,330
CO: $28,330
CT: $29,030
ME: $29,320

Full tax credit details below, but the following income limits apply:

$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after
Dang it.
Jun 03, 2023 10:18 PM
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newbharryJun 03, 2023 10:18 PM
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Quote from joon82 :
Dont forget to check insurance. I was shopping to swap my commuter to model 3 but found out insurance is $200 for just model 3 alone(right now Im paying $120 for lexus and bmw M3).
State farm. It's the cheapest
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Jun 03, 2023 10:20 PM
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newbharryJun 03, 2023 10:20 PM
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Quote from zdiddy987 :
What's the monthly insurance premium running people for these things?
180 for me on state farm
Jun 03, 2023 10:20 PM
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CeceriousJun 03, 2023 10:20 PM
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Quote from sujaisundar :
Order fee don't go towards purchase price
It won't reduce anything from MSRP

It's something like the "Destination charge" we are paying in advance
I'm not about to post one of my order agreements, but someone on Reddit did.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaMod...ee_charge/

You can clearly see the $250 deposit in the "Payment Received" section.

I guess my posts could've been worded better, but the point is that it's not $250 extra as it basically gets cancelled out when you complete the purchase.

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Jun 03, 2023 10:21 PM
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newbharryJun 03, 2023 10:21 PM
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Quote from Jimboy435T :
I bought a model y in February and haven't paid any $$ for charging. Work offers free charging so saving close to $300 month on filling the gas tank. I used to drive a q7..best decision ever to go EV
Same here

My car loan is 2.47% for 8 years.

So right now gold man Marcus is literally buying me a car when the interest is at 5.25%


Car is being paid by the bank... Electricity is paid by third party.
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