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2023 Tesla Model 3 w/ 3 Months Supercharging + $7500 Federal Tax Credit

(For Qualifying Buyers)

from $37830

$40,240

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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

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  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

Editor's Notes

Written by qwikwit | Staff
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
  • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.

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Eagles89
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You forgot to mention the $1390 destination fee, $425 for wall connector, $230 for mobile charger, $250 non-refundable order fee.
scn312
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Tesla Model 3 RWD starts at $40,240 but is now eligible for the full $7,500 federal tax credit (income limits apply). Previously, it was only eligible for $3,750. This makes the starting price $32,740 after tax credit.

https://www.tesla.com/model3/design

Deal is even sweeter if you live in a state with additional credits:

VT: $26,320
MA: $26,830
PA: $27,330
RI: $27,820
DE: $27,820
NY: $28,320
CA: $28,330
CO: $28,330
CT: $29,030
ME: $29,320

Full tax credit details below, but the following income limits apply:

$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after
Knightshade
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NO IT DOES NOT.

Withholding is totally irrelevant to qualifying for the credit.

If you're unclear on this go read a 1040.

The part where you compute tax liability is lines 16 through 24.

THAT is where the $7500 EV credit comes off.

Your withholdings aren't even looked at until after that on line 25+







This is also not correct.

The Child Tax Credit is worth a maximum of $2,000 per qualifying child. Up to $1,600 is refundable for the 2023 tax year.

Refundable credits are computed AFTER non-refundable ones-- so the CTC is only "worth" $400 off your tax burden for these purposes- the $1600 left is refundable.

Thus if you had say $7900 in tax burden and one CTC and one EV credit, your tax burden would go to $0 and you'd get a full refund of the $1600 refundable part of the CTC


Source:
https://www.nerdwallet.com/articl...tax-credit

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twinnii
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Quote from ABshe :
I'm holding for $25k.
No doubt. I'll wait for the dip
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younodadeal
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Quote from Passions :
IRS workarounds usually involve large fines and/or jail time. LMAO
Or Congressmen...
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younodadeal
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Quote from kipper99 :
So, in order for you to travel today you need to prepare the day before?
I guess EV's aren't for the YOLO crowd.
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FHRITP
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Quote from gibsonbass :
Even better if you qualify $2000 CA tax rebate
Qualifying for CA rebate means you live in California. I wouldn't say that's "even better."
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TamelCoe
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Quote from Binar :
This has been the truth since the inception of EV vechicles. While they can output the stated range the driving has to be done in the perfect climate and the measurements to be taken at the beginning to the life cucle. Battery efficiency degrades in heat or cold, and degrades in time . The truth is finally coming out now when buyers with no agenda are finally becoming owners. Before we had activists from both side that made any organic discussion look ridiculous. While fossil is not the future I dont think EV is either. Could be solar, could be hydrogen , could be other form of renewable but EV is as bad as fuel both in producing it and efficiency
Man, I've read some of your posts and most are bad, but this one is the worst. Just stop talking about EV's, as it's clear you don't know what you're talking about. I've been driving EV's for 10 years and they are very efficient compared to ICE. The batteries degrade very little, (around 1% per year) and the longer range vehicles will have usable range well past their useful life.

After that, the packs can be recycled or used for home storage. They usually get their stated range as long as you don't drive 75+ on the highway and most get more than stated in city driving. The only real climate related hits you see is VERY cold winter temps can decrease range by about 20% max.

So, since the average American drives 40 miles/day, even with a range hit in winter and/or fast highway speeds, most will have multiples of what they need, before literally fueling up in their garage while they sleep.
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squish
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Quote from Ven007 :
i am on the fence.. are taxes the only component that gets added on top of what we see during checkout ? I see $250 as order fee. what else gets added ? Just trying to get an estimate.
Well they add on anti-theft device, nitrogen in tires, window tinting, all-season floor mats, splash guards, wheel locks, 3M Scotchgard auto fabric protector, pinstriping and all kinds of extended warranties . Oh wait that is all the other car dealerships. Oh and lets not forget the Market adjustment!!! /s

You will have sales tax and destination fee also added, like any other car. If I look at the amount I needed to finance I see a line item "Payments Received" and Order Deposit -$250 but I really did not think it was supposed to reduce the amount I needed to finance. You probably will also want to get either a mobile charger or a wall charger. for $230 or $425
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Eagles89
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Quote from squish :
You will have sales tax and destination fee also added, like any other car. If I look at the amount I needed to finance I see a line item "Payments Received" and Order Deposit -$250 but I really did not think it was supposed to reduce the amount I needed to finance. You probably will also want to get either a mobile charger or a wall charger. for $230 or $425
The electrician will charge you more money simply because it's a Tesla. It actually makes everything more expensive for you.

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squish
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Quote from Eagles89 :
The electrician will charge you more money simply because it's a Tesla. It actually makes everything more expensive for you.
I think electricians are now so competitive that you can find one charging the normal rate now. I was lucky, my breaker box is in my garage and I installed a nema 14-50 plug to use with the mobile charger for about $200. I was charging a model Y with that and the model 3 on a very slow 110. But with the 3rd car coming and not wanting to install a subpanel, I decided to replace the 14-50 with 2 tesla wall chargers that can load share. Didn't bother asking an electrician to quote me a price.
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Knightshade
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Quote from StankNasty411 :
EV fires are catastrophic, so much so that many race tracks ban them as they don't have the means to put them out.

An ICE "catching fire" is no where near the scale of an EV catching fire

.....And often when you're not driving, meaning while parked in the garage.

I guess you missed the previous post we covered this where you tried to FUD up the thread claiming gas cars only catch on fire when running, not parked in your garage and it got heavily debunked--- quick reminder of that:



MEANWHILE BACK IN REALITY


https://www.caranddriver.com/news...kc-recall/

Quote :
2015–2019 Lincoln MKC Recalled for Fire Risk, Owners Told to Park Outside
Quote :
The problem can occur without warning, even when the vehicle is parked and off
In fact the story notes 100% of fires from this issue so far have been while the car was parked and off.


Spoiler- those are gasoline cars- not EVs.



Maybe next time wait more than 2 pages to repeat your debunked nonsense?



Quote from StankNasty411 :
Trust me, I watched a YouTube of an engineer who said everything's been debunked.

The fact you keep repeating the debunked stuff tells us either you didn't actually watch or- or you didn't understand it.

Which was it?





Quote from Eagles89 :
The electrician will charge you more money simply because it's a Tesla. It actually makes everything more expensive for you.

Why would he know it's for a Tesla?

Just tell him you want a 240v 14-50 outlet for a welder you're buying and want a quote. Do that from say 3 well rated electricians, then pick one.

Or, if you only typically drive as much as the average american- just use the free 120v plug you already have- that'll put back the avg. americans daily miles overnight just fine.
Last edited by Knightshade June 4, 2023 at 06:35 PM.
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Rack
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Quote from felixbball28 :
Where did the poster say anything about not disclosing income? I'm a little annoyed as well that there are rather low income limits on this. California is expensive to live in and a $150K (the cap) standard of living in CA is much lower than it is elsewhere.

Why am I subsidizing people who potentially: a) have no financial business buying a brand new car or b) people who can kite their income to fall below $150k on paper

And now they're discussing electric bills being income based--its a little crazy.
Definitely something that punishes the W-2 crowd.
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Marshal11
Jun 5, 2023
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How is NY rebate calculated? I see only $2000 rebate in NY so the price would be $30,740. What am I missing?

Quote from scn312 :
Tesla Model 3 RWD starts at $40,240 but is now eligible for the full $7,500 federal tax credit (income limits apply). Previously, it was only eligible for $3,750. This makes the starting price $32,740 after tax credit.

https://www.tesla.com/model3/design

Deal is even sweeter if you live in a state with additional credits:

VT: $26,320
MA: $26,830
PA: $27,330
RI: $27,820
DE: $27,820
NY: $28,320
CA: $28,330
CO: $28,330
CT: $29,030
ME: $29,320

Full tax credit details below, but the following income limits apply:

$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after
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squish
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Quote from Flashtwosix :
This post will probably got lost in this thread due to heated debate on the federal tax rebate.

If you encounter a "This Vehicle Can Only Be Registered in Texas" restrictions then read below if you don't live in Texas but want to purchase an EV from Texas.
I didn't read this in time and I had a car that was in MD and I am in NC. I put the deposit down but could not get to complete the registration in the app. I called Tesla and they offered that they would ship the car to NC for $500. That was a wash for me after flights, night in a hotel and 9 hours driving.
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Eagles89
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Quote from Knightshade :
Just tell him you want a 240v 14-50 outlet for a welder you're buying and want a quote. Do that from say 3 well rated electricians, then pick one.

Or, if you only typically drive as much as the average american- just use the free 120v plug you already have- that'll put back the avg. americans daily miles overnight just fine.
He will know it's a Tesla because you are going to have to hardwire the Tesla charger.
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Knightshade
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Quote from Eagles89 :
He will know it's a Tesla because you are going to have to hardwire the Tesla charger.

Why?

The mobile charger is roughly half the price, works just as well for 99% of situations, AND you can take it with you on a road trip unlike the wall charger and even swap out the plug end so it'll work in other sockets in other locations.

Plus you won't need to pay an electrician to remove it when you move either.


Typically the only use case that makes any sense to get the wall charger instead is if you're getting it with tesla solar and powerwalls and want the app integration the wall charger gets you with those--- but in that case you've ALREADY got an electrician doing a bunch of work for you anyway.
Last edited by Knightshade June 4, 2023 at 07:34 PM.

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bjohnrini
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Quote from Marshal11 :
How is NY rebate calculated? I see only $2000 rebate in NY so the price would be $30,740. What am I missing?
I think the price is based on existing inventory (which is cheaper)

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