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2023 Tesla Model 3 w/ 3 Months Supercharging + $7500 Federal Tax Credit

(For Qualifying Buyers)

from $37830

$40,240

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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

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  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

Editor's Notes

Written by qwikwit | Staff
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
  • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.

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Eagles89
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You forgot to mention the $1390 destination fee, $425 for wall connector, $230 for mobile charger, $250 non-refundable order fee.
scn312
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Tesla Model 3 RWD starts at $40,240 but is now eligible for the full $7,500 federal tax credit (income limits apply). Previously, it was only eligible for $3,750. This makes the starting price $32,740 after tax credit.

https://www.tesla.com/model3/design

Deal is even sweeter if you live in a state with additional credits:

VT: $26,320
MA: $26,830
PA: $27,330
RI: $27,820
DE: $27,820
NY: $28,320
CA: $28,330
CO: $28,330
CT: $29,030
ME: $29,320

Full tax credit details below, but the following income limits apply:

$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after
Knightshade
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NO IT DOES NOT.

Withholding is totally irrelevant to qualifying for the credit.

If you're unclear on this go read a 1040.

The part where you compute tax liability is lines 16 through 24.

THAT is where the $7500 EV credit comes off.

Your withholdings aren't even looked at until after that on line 25+







This is also not correct.

The Child Tax Credit is worth a maximum of $2,000 per qualifying child. Up to $1,600 is refundable for the 2023 tax year.

Refundable credits are computed AFTER non-refundable ones-- so the CTC is only "worth" $400 off your tax burden for these purposes- the $1600 left is refundable.

Thus if you had say $7900 in tax burden and one CTC and one EV credit, your tax burden would go to $0 and you'd get a full refund of the $1600 refundable part of the CTC


Source:
https://www.nerdwallet.com/articl...tax-credit

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Quote from theshmigga :
Why are my tax dollars paying for this?
To make the world greener and get rid of OPEC. /s
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Darn. I need to marry a poor man quick.
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Knightshade
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Quote from 9000RPM :
I live near a Tesla store that is also located near the shopping mall. They always used the shopping mall parking lot to park their new cars.

During the pandemic, it was maybe 50+ cars at most. Recently, I drove past it and it's like 500+ total new Teslas in that lot. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing.

Tesla produced about 500k vehicles in the 2020 pandemic year. In 2023 they're expected to produce nearly 2 million. So it's not really indicative of much that holding lots have more cars in em.

Company wide their inventory remains at roughly 2 weeks or less of production.... the average for all car makers is 60 days of inventory, and nobody besides Tesla has an inventory under about 30 days.




Quote from the_natural :
Bought the wife a basic (+ paint) RWD 3 a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, bummer it was at a flat $40k, but that's ok. Great car!

FYI the full rebate change is retroactive, you'll get the whole $7500 assuming you otherwise qualify for it income wise.





Quote from lebulldog :
This is typically what is shown as Total Tax. .

Unfortunately you got it wrong too.

Total tax is line 24. Which includes refundable credits that come AFTER the EV credit.

You want to look at line 18, which is BEFORE you do refundable credits. That's the # that needs to be $7500 to get the full value of this credit. (Or higher, if you have any OTHER non-refundable credits)



Quote from pakaroro :
- If I can't get approval from my landlord to install anything within the garage, and I'm using a standard plug from there, can I expect to be fine using the car for a ~50 mile commute plus some driving on weekends?
A normal 120v/15A plug will add roughly 3-4 miles per hour of range. So you'd need to be plugged in 12-16 hours to roughly break even on 50 miles a day of driving. If you happen to have a 120v/20A plug it'd be somewhat faster than that. If you have a 240v plug for a dryer or a stove you could buy a thing that lets you share that (so just don't dry while charging, and presumably you don't bake overnight) and you'd be able to fully charge the car from your 50 miles of driving EASILY in just 2-3 hours.

Probably you'll be fine most of the time unless you also drive this much on weekends (or you're only home 8 hours a day or something). At worst you might need to make a 5-10 minute stop at a supercharger once a week or something if you drive a lot on weekends.




Quote from pakaroro :
- I sometimes visit family that is about ~250 miles away, this lists the range at 272 miles, is this something where I'd be barely scraping by, or is that a conservative estimate? Would that number dip down pretty quickly over 5 - 10 years of ownership where I would require a charge mid-trip each time?
You'd be better off stopping at a supercharger on the way for 10 minutes.... which if you're driving along any major highway should be pretty easy....That's assuming you plan to plug in for a while when you get there... obviously if you won't have any at-home charging at the family house you'll need to stop longer than that to have range to come back with.

Really cold weather can reduce range 20-30% so bear that in mind if it's relevant to where you're going.



Quote from pakaroro :
how I can verify this 7500 credit will apply.
Look at line 18 of your 1040.

Is it at least $7500?

Is your MAGI less than 150 single or 300k filing jointly?

Then you get the full $7500.


Quote from theshmigga :
Why are my tax dollars paying for this?

They aren't, as has been explained like 10 times now.

A non-refundable tax credit means the person buying the car gets to keep more of their own money. They don't get any of YOUR money.
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Why do these Tesla threads keep getting pushed back to the top of my deals?
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good deal. i am not going to wait for the new model or further discounts.
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Quote from pakaroro :
- If I can't get approval from my landlord to install anything within the garage, and I'm using a standard plug from there, can I expect to be fine using the car for a ~50 mile commute plus some driving on weekends? Or will i likely need to expect to set some time aside to hit up the Tesla Superchargers?
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Is there any kind of larger outlet, for something like an Electric Dryer or something? Then you could order the NEMA adapter for that plug.
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Teslas are hot garbage. I want my tax dollars back.
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Quote from Knightshade :
FYI the full rebate change is retroactive, you'll get the whole $7500 assuming you otherwise qualify for it income wise.


This isn't entirely true. Tesla evidently rearranged their sourcing so that cars with batteries containing minerals from China are going to Canada instead of the U.S. There are some cars however that were sold in the U.S. before that happened, so not all rear wheel drive cars will be eligible for the full amount. It will depend upon the VIN number of the vehicle.
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Quote from EdEd1190 :
Is there any kind of larger outlet, for something like an Electric Dryer or something? Then you could order the NEMA adapter for that plug.
Quote from Knightshade :

A normal 120v/15A plug will add roughly 3-4 miles per hour of range. So you'd need to be plugged in 12-16 hours to roughly break even on 50 miles a day of driving. If you happen to have a 120v/20A plug it'd be somewhat faster than that. If you have a 240v plug for a dryer or a stove you could buy a thing that lets you share that (so just don't dry while charging, and presumably you don't bake overnight) and you'd be able to fully charge the car from your 50 miles of driving EASILY in just 2-3 hours.

Probably you'll be fine most of the time unless you also drive this much on weekends (or you're only home 8 hours a day or something). At worst you might need to make a 5-10 minute stop at a supercharger once a week or something if you drive a lot on weekends.
Unfortunately not, its really a simple cover space that happens to have a plug, doubt it's anything more than whatever bare minimum to have lights and run the door opener. I'll just plan to stop by a supercharger 1-2 a week depending on my weekend plans, I already do this at a gas station since my current car is getting ~20mpg.

I think at this point I just need to get my insurance to provide me a quote. Looked through all the rebate paperwork and I should be good for both the 7.5k fed and 2k state, so this beats every other commuter car option I can see. Thanks for the info!
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so how is tesla claiming these inventory LFP standard range M3s get the full 7500 credit?
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Quote from yujie :
if my tax refund is for example $3k next year, so is this $7500 credit will be added on top of my $3k refund to make it $10500 refund?
Yes, if your total federal tax is more than $7500.
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Quote from theshmigga :
Why are my tax dollars paying for this?
Good question. Do you know who's tax dollars are NOT paying for it? Elon Musk's!
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Why are my tax dollars paying for this?
Please stop asking intelligent questions
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Quote from Eagles89 :
You forgot to mention the $1390 destination fee, $425 for wall connector, $230 for mobile charger, $250 non-refundable order fee.
$250 order fee is applied to price. Only need a $425 wall charger. 5k miles in i have saved $140 (converted) not using gas compared to my old car.
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Quote from Eagles89 :
You forgot to mention the $1390 destination fee, $425 for wall connector, $230 for mobile charger, $250 non-refundable order fee.
Exactly. Though you definitely do not need a wall charger if you have a mobile charger. Most Tesla owners just use a mobile charger.

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