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frontpage Posted by krispytreat007 • Jun 2, 2023
frontpage Posted by krispytreat007 • Jun 2, 2023

2023 Tesla Model 3 w/ 3 Months Supercharging + $7500 Federal Tax Credit

(For Qualifying Buyers)

from $37830

$40,240

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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

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  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

Editor's Notes

Written by qwikwit | Staff
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
  • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.

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Eagles89
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You forgot to mention the $1390 destination fee, $425 for wall connector, $230 for mobile charger, $250 non-refundable order fee.
scn312
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Tesla Model 3 RWD starts at $40,240 but is now eligible for the full $7,500 federal tax credit (income limits apply). Previously, it was only eligible for $3,750. This makes the starting price $32,740 after tax credit.

https://www.tesla.com/model3/design

Deal is even sweeter if you live in a state with additional credits:

VT: $26,320
MA: $26,830
PA: $27,330
RI: $27,820
DE: $27,820
NY: $28,320
CA: $28,330
CO: $28,330
CT: $29,030
ME: $29,320

Full tax credit details below, but the following income limits apply:

$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after
Knightshade
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NO IT DOES NOT.

Withholding is totally irrelevant to qualifying for the credit.

If you're unclear on this go read a 1040.

The part where you compute tax liability is lines 16 through 24.

THAT is where the $7500 EV credit comes off.

Your withholdings aren't even looked at until after that on line 25+







This is also not correct.

The Child Tax Credit is worth a maximum of $2,000 per qualifying child. Up to $1,600 is refundable for the 2023 tax year.

Refundable credits are computed AFTER non-refundable ones-- so the CTC is only "worth" $400 off your tax burden for these purposes- the $1600 left is refundable.

Thus if you had say $7900 in tax burden and one CTC and one EV credit, your tax burden would go to $0 and you'd get a full refund of the $1600 refundable part of the CTC


Source:
https://www.nerdwallet.com/articl...tax-credit

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ggapropros
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Quote from Knightshade :



If you find that ridiculous take it up with Tesla- they're the ones who said it over and over and walked the walk proving it.
That quote was from elon in mar 2022. Im acutely aware of what the landscape was back then, they did fully shut down ordering of the model 3 on tesla.com. My friend got in right before the cut off for his LR M3 that he received in july 2022. China and berlin were not doing so well back then.

The recession and inflation were not happening at all. Car prices were through the roof, tesla was the only one who didnt have a dealership gouging people for $5k over sticker for a fully optioned honda accord so they had a lot of buyers.
Last edited by ggapropros June 8, 2023 at 06:09 PM.
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ggapropros
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Quote from gen2 :
Is it possible to sell some stocks at a gain to increase your taxable income then buy back the stock immediately? Kinda of like tax loss harvesting but in reverse and would wash sale rule even apply?
what in the what. are you saying your regular federal income is less than the $80k or so you want to bump it up a bit? A gain is a gain. the gov will love if you pay taxes on it. Wash sales are so you cant abuse it at the end of the calendar year, has nothing to do with what youre trying to do. My advice is if you are trying to get the full $7500 tax credit that you target long term capital gain positions...
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Knightshade
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Quote from ggapropros :
oh damn they get the $7500 on any new lease and just pocket it haha OMG
Yup. So why pass it along when they don't need to?


Quote from ggapropros :
the $7500 sounds like its basically not means tested at all and just a fat check from the government.
For commercial purchases and leases? Correct-- the law specifically does not require EITHER means testing OR the materials-sourcing that private citizens buying have to go through.



Quote from ggapropros :
I dont really believe what you say is true about tesla not wanting demand. Demand is not keeping up with teslas ever increasing weekly output, thats why theyre giving an instant discount on new inventory to $37,820. thats just way way too low in 2023 when inflation is nuts.
Tesla has about 2 weeks of inventory. That's not even historically big if you look back over the years.

Where people are freaking out is the raw # in inventory-- but they're ignoring as a % of production it's not high at all... yes they have more total inventory cars than 2018- but they also PRODUCE a ton more.

It's the days of production that is the relevant measure and theirs remains MUCH lower than anyone else making cars.


Quote from ggapropros :
If they had the lease buyout option with a $5000 discount (instead of $7500) then you would never see a $37,820 on that inventory and they could restore it to $40,240.

There so many people i know in tech over the income limit who would pull the trigger on that tomorrow. This is the government handing out $7500 like candy, this is not a tax credit. As a shareholder it simply doesnt make sense why they would sell a single car at discount when they can be taking advantage of this crazy good loophole.


Right. They're RIGHT BACK to March 2022 with 9 month backlogs.

PLUS they need to put a ton of debt on the books they don't want as well to carry the leased vehicles.

And in return they gain... literally nothing. Because they can already easily sell all the cars they're making in a timely fashion.



Quote from gen2 :
Is it possible to sell some stocks at a gain to increase your taxable income then buy back the stock immediately? Kinda of like tax loss harvesting but in reverse and would wash sale rule even apply?

Wash sales stop you from taking a loss as a write-off. Not a gain. So no it wouldn't apply. This would let you reset the basis cost of the stocks so might be a thing worth considering.

Consider also it will reset the holding period for long vs short term gains purposes.
Last edited by Knightshade June 8, 2023 at 06:14 PM.
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I am single making 420k per year in California. How much would be my credit?
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furai2017
Jun 9, 2023
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Don't buy it. I got junk model y. very disappointed, too many problem... piece of shit.
no price protection.
Last edited by furai2017 June 8, 2023 at 06:55 PM.
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I am single making 420k per year in California. How much would be my credit?
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Will this tow the tiny home from Home Depot?

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Quote from hajimow :
I am single making 420k per year in California. How much would be my credit?
Don't worry about it. You don't need any credit like we do.
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webking
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Quote from hajimow :
I am single making 420k per year in California. How much would be my credit?
People making half mil a year dont have time to browse walmart or slick deals sites. Lol. Fake news again!
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Kel69
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Don't have lease buyout option. Hard pass
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cheapodeal
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I am single making 420k per year in California. How much would be my credit?
Are you one of Trump's kid know one knows about?
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RowlandC
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Quote from hajimow :
I am single making 420k per year in California. How much would be my credit?
I make $1 million a year. How much will my credit be?
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lenser
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What's the lowest loan rate you were able to get and who did you finance with?
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VH1domino
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Struggling with insurance costs (MA, so no Tesla insurance) for this deal. The Tesla Model 3 seems to be the most expensive car to insure in its class, sometimes double the cost. Are other states similar?

I checked Model Y, Bolt, Mustang Mach-E, ID.4, Ioniq, along with BMW Series 3 and a few other ICE sedan models. Oddly, the Model 3 was even 15-20% more than the Model Y, which is so similar.

As I understand, the Tesla batteries are not really repairable, so any tiny damage from a collision requires that the car be totaled and taken as a loss. I wondered if a high or low deductible was better in that case, or even a limited collision (which in MA means coverage for less than 50% at fault), not sure of the best strategy. But is does change my thoughts on this deal if it is an extra 1K per year of owning it.

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Leonidas
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Any good options for Auto Loan?
USSFCU. Slow process but rates are lower than any major bank.

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