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2023 Tesla Model 3 w/ 3 Months Supercharging + $7500 Federal Tax Credit

(For Qualifying Buyers)

from $37830

$40,240

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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

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  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

Editor's Notes

Written by qwikwit | Staff
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
  • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.

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Eagles89
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You forgot to mention the $1390 destination fee, $425 for wall connector, $230 for mobile charger, $250 non-refundable order fee.
scn312
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Tesla Model 3 RWD starts at $40,240 but is now eligible for the full $7,500 federal tax credit (income limits apply). Previously, it was only eligible for $3,750. This makes the starting price $32,740 after tax credit.

https://www.tesla.com/model3/design

Deal is even sweeter if you live in a state with additional credits:

VT: $26,320
MA: $26,830
PA: $27,330
RI: $27,820
DE: $27,820
NY: $28,320
CA: $28,330
CO: $28,330
CT: $29,030
ME: $29,320

Full tax credit details below, but the following income limits apply:

$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after
Knightshade
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NO IT DOES NOT.

Withholding is totally irrelevant to qualifying for the credit.

If you're unclear on this go read a 1040.

The part where you compute tax liability is lines 16 through 24.

THAT is where the $7500 EV credit comes off.

Your withholdings aren't even looked at until after that on line 25+







This is also not correct.

The Child Tax Credit is worth a maximum of $2,000 per qualifying child. Up to $1,600 is refundable for the 2023 tax year.

Refundable credits are computed AFTER non-refundable ones-- so the CTC is only "worth" $400 off your tax burden for these purposes- the $1600 left is refundable.

Thus if you had say $7900 in tax burden and one CTC and one EV credit, your tax burden would go to $0 and you'd get a full refund of the $1600 refundable part of the CTC


Source:
https://www.nerdwallet.com/articl...tax-credit

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TWG2012
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I have an opportunity to buy a 2018 M3 for $30K with $40K miles and FSD from a friend...is that worth it over a brand new one without FSD? I feel torn between both options.
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smachine
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Quote from TWG2012 :
I have an opportunity to buy a 2018 M3 for $30K with $40K miles and FSD from a friend...is that worth it over a brand new one without FSD? I feel torn between both options.
That's not a horrible deal for a FSD car if it's a LR RWD or a AWD, particularly for someone who might not qualify for the $7500 rebate and is above the income threshold. But Tesla has FSD 2020 Model Ys going for $42k wl extended warranty. Or if your friend is looking to buy another Tesla they should transfer their FSD to a new car if they buy this quarter.

44.6k for a performance Y w/ FSD. 57k miles, https://www.tesla.com/my/order/5YJYGDEF6LF037465
Last edited by smachine July 27, 2023 at 06:18 PM.
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TWG2012
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Quote from smachine :
That's not a horrible deal for a FSD car if it's a LR RWD or a AWD, particularly for someone who might not qualify for the $7500 rebate and is above the income threshold. But Tesla has FSD 2020 Model Ys going for $42k wl extended warranty. Or if your friend is looking to buy another Tesla they should transfer their FSD to a new car if they buy this quarter.

44.6k for a performance Y w/ FSD. 57k miles, https://www.tesla.com/my/order/5YJYGDEF6LF037465
Yeah, its a 2018 LR RWD, Hard to say no to it with the FSD included...but also to your point the MY options that Tesla offers are pretty darn good too.
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Ilovedeals
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Quote from Gnomeslayer :
I read somewhere that they're discounting some cars that have sat on the lot longer, which if accurate isn't a big deal imo, I wouldn't mind a one or two month older car for a hefty discount!
Yea I got a call from them about pickup and I asked and they said new not demo. Really wanted model y for future if I have kids but not worth spending close to $12k more for me. Will have a second suv anyway when we need the space.
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c1995
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Does anybody know if you order from inventory in SoCal you can have it delivered to your door? Or you have to go to one of the locations to pick up?
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OceanTwelve
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Quote from TWG2012 :
I have an opportunity to buy a 2018 M3 for $30K with $40K miles and FSD from a friend...is that worth it over a brand new one without FSD? I feel torn between both options.
Depends on how much you value FSD.
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tani80
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Prices are down more today, up to 4k off but waiting till mid September when end of quarter sales really kick in, expecting 5-6k off on model 3, due to new model coming up.

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Dr. J
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Quote from FishKilla :
https://electrek.co/2023/07/27/te...rt-states/


Tesla years ago began exaggerating its vehicles' potential driving distance – by rigging their range-estimating software.

The company decided about a decade ago, for marketing purposes, to write algorithms for its range meter that would show drivers "rosy" projections for the distance it could travel on a full battery, according to a person familiar with an early design of the software for its in-dash readouts.

Then, when the battery fell below 50% of its maximum charge, the algorithm would show drivers more realistic projections for their remaining driving range, this person said. To prevent drivers from getting stranded as their predicted range started declining more quickly, Teslas were designed with a "safety buffer," allowing about 15 miles (24 km) of additional range even after the dash readout showed an empty battery, the source said.
It's even worse than that:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mary...9be6e67d9c

When customers noticed their range wasn't matching the dashboard estimates and called the company to make service appointments, Tesla employees would follow directives to tell customers they'd performed "remote diagnostics" and cancel the appointment, the report said.

The company reportedly went as far as to create an entire Las Vegas-based "diversion team" devoted to quieting customer complaints about the inaccurate range, a group that was told by managers it saved Tesla $1,000 for every appointment it canceled.
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cgigate
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Quote from Ilovedeals :
it didn't say demo or any miles on it when looking at inventory. Will check odo before taking the car.
odo is always fake, Tesla can reset it for whatever it wants
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cgigate
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Quote from TWG2012 :
I have an opportunity to buy a 2018 M3 for $30K with $40K miles and FSD from a friend...is that worth it over a brand new one without FSD? I feel torn between both options.
5 years old used battery is not worth for anything ...
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ggapropros
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Quote from FishKilla :
https://electrek.co/2023/07/27/te...rt-states/

Teslas were designed with a "safety buffer," allowing about 15 miles (24 km) of additional range even after the dash readout showed an empty battery, the source said.
holy crap my tesla has 15 miles of extra battery when its at 0? thats awesome. Thats like getting an extra 3000 watt hour battery upgrade. wtf thats worth like $1000. holy shit.
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ggapropros
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Quote from cgigate :
5 years old used battery is not worth for anything ...
shit i should tell my uncle his 5 year old tesla model S that he uses everyday that its actually 0mi range and useless according to a person who has spent most of their life on slickdeals.
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cgigate
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Quote from ggapropros :
shit i should tell my uncle his 5 year old tesla model S that he uses everyday that its actually 0mi range and useless according to a person who has spent most of their life on slickdeals.
So, newbie knows nothing to enjoy the 5-year old used Li-on battery, your life cycle could compare with doggy's...
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Knightshade
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Quote from Dr. J :
It's even worse than that:
It's really not.


Quote from Dr. J :
It'
When customers noticed their range wasn't matching the dashboard estimates and called the company to make service appointments, Tesla employees would follow directives to tell customers they'd performed "remote diagnostics" and cancel the appointment, the report said.
Right-- because the remote diagnostics showed nothing wrong with the car.

Why waste the customer, and the service techs, time when there's nothing to fix?

Hilariously the Reuters story that kicked all this off includes direct quotes confirming this as accurate:

Quote from Original story :
In most cases, the complaining customers' cars likely did not need repair, according to the people familiar with the matter.
In fact the one actual Tesla owner they managed to get to be mad about this admits that even when he DID show up in person he was done in 10 minutes because... there was nothing actually wrong with the car! A fact he himself admits in the story

Quote from The actual Tesla owner involved :
he said he ultimately concluded there is nothing wrong with his car.
So if he had listened to the remote advisor and cancelled the appointment he would've just saved everyone time and money.

Even funnier, the team that seems to have not done anything but save everyone time and money yet they're SUPER MAD about?

Quote from Original story :
Tesla recently stopped using its diversion team in Nevada to handle range-related complaints

But Tesla recently had Yet Another Record Quarter, while folks like Ford are losing billions on EVs and pulling back their projected sales and production figures- so somebody's gotta up the nonsense anti-tesla FUD stories I guess...



Quote from cgigate :
odo is always fake, Tesla can reset it for whatever it wants

That is literally a federal crime under Title 49 U.S. Code 32703


Quote from cgigate :
So, newbie knows nothing to enjoy the 5-year old used Li-on battery, your life cycle could compare with doggy's...
Quote from cgigate :
5 years old used battery is not worth for anything ...

Weird claims since it still not only still has 3 years of warranty (or a mileage limit whichever comes first) we also know actual data shows even 10 year old ones still retain over 80% of their original range.

I agree there's a newbie knows nothing here, but it ain't the guy you replied to Applause
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Dr. J
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Quote from cgigate :
So, newbie knows nothing to enjoy the 5-year old used Li-on battery, your life cycle could compare with doggy's...

And you shouldn't make a habit of running the battery too low or charging too high.

https://www.midtronics.com/blog/i...le-to-100/

If charging to 100%, discharging to 0%, and more than 50% DoD are all discouraged on a consistent basis, what's the best way to charge an EV battery and use it? First, it's recommended to keep an EV's charge above 20% when you can, both to maintain its battery health and to prevent range anxiety. Just like driving a gas-powered car with less than 1/4 tank, you want the assurance you'll get to refuel before you run out.

It's often recommended that the EV's battery pack is kept between 30% and 80% of its full charge to maintain its State of Health, or SoH. The CEO of one major EV carmaker has suggested that it's no problem to recharge to 90 or 95% of capacity to maintain the battery's SoH. So long as SoC is not kept at either extreme for any length of time, it should prevent degradation at any accelerated level.

The more pressing issue tends to be depth of discharge. Whether you're charging to 60%, 80%, or even 95%, it's best to keep the DoD as low as possible, and it's certainly preferred to be less than 50% DoD.

By avoiding charges to 100% regularly and always avoiding completely discharging to 0%, as well as maintaining less than 50% DoD, you'll keep your EV's battery working its best for years to come with minimal effect on SoH.

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That's why I take the "range" figure with a grain of salt - it's portrayed to ICE people because ICE vehicles can go from completely empty to completely full tanks without issue; the stated range of the car is exactly what you can get. With an EV, you really have to take the stated range and cut 30-40% off of it if you make "reservations" to not discharge below 20% or charge above 80% - yeah you can do it from time to time but it's pretty clear and universal that full discharges are bad, as well as full charges.

https://www.greencars.com/greenca...prevent-it

· Avoid Discharging Below 20 Percent: Making sure that you do not operate your EV below a 20 percent charge will add life to the battery and also make sure you always have plenty of charge to get you home.

· Only Charge Up to 80 Percent: For most EV owners, the range of their EV is more than enough for daily commutes and errands and charging up to 80 percent is plenty for a day's travel. A full charge to 100 percent is not good for lithium-ion batteries.  You can lower the maximum charging limit with your EV's onboard charger.
Last edited by Dr. J July 28, 2023 at 11:50 AM.

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