Beginning in 2024, everyone under the income limit qualifies for the full $7,500 rebate. It does not matter if you owe less than that in taxes, and you can get it at the time of purchase instead of waiting for next year's taxes.
https://www.npr.org/2023/12/28/12...ford-vw-gm
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expiredDC13 posted Jun 3, 2023 9:12 PM
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edit: For clarification from the wiki: "The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due."
So lower income people will not get a $7500 refund, it depends on your liability. i.e. A SDer responded about a student being angry in a previous thread that they only got $500 back and not $7500.
Virtually all of the ICE vehicle can be recycled. Generally the only items not recyclable per se will be interior trim - it's mixed plastic and rubber. Engine? steel or aluminum. Gearcases? Steel or aluminum. Body, frame, etc, steel or aluminum. In fact, about 86% of a car can be recycled [recyclenation.com].
Meanwhile your EV will still have a fully and readily recyclable frame and body, just like the ICE. The motor will generally be recyclable. The battery? Not really. Generally batteries and battery packs are not really designed for recycling. Most are just thousands of individual cylindrical cells, that themselves are spiral wound multilayer structures. There's no easy way to separate the materials here. An ICE, you literally rip out the engine with heavy equipment and include it in with any other steel or aluminum - the process is astonishingly easy and quick [youtube.com] with heavy equipment.
Meanwhile, the batteries are generally just shredded [ucsusa.org]. The resulting material is called "black mass" and is placed into a bath of caustic chemicals to leech out the *important* elements. In certain cases, that black mass is first incinerated to burn off plastic and epoxies. Yeah that sounds super efficient and environmental to me.
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Some says, Line 24, some says Line 37.
What if line 37 is empty because most/all of the tax was paid upfront as part of paycheck (total paid taxes in advance, Line 33)
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Bolt is limited to a ~50 kW fast charging speed which severely limits its long road trip potential.
https://insideevs.com/news/613786...-charging/
Own a Tesla Model 3 and it can charge at 250 kW, but haven't used superchargers very much. Tesla fast charging normally gets you to 80% (over 200 miles) in about 20 minutes. Unless you drive more than 250 miles a day, I would guess most people will charge their cars at home. The Model 3 is a much, much nicer vehicle than a Bolt but they both handle well due to the low center of gravity that EVs have due to the battery weight under the floor.
Home charging - $0.20 per kWh or $12.00 from 0-100%
Supercharging - $0.38 per kWh or $22.80 from 0-100%
Work charger - free
(Numbers are for a 60 kWh Tesla Model 3)
Main reason I bought a Tesla was to avoid the ordeal of speaking with a car dealer. Purchased the Tesla 100% on their app - picked the options we wanted, arranged financing, and were never pressured to upgrade or add any extended warranties etc. I will never buy a vehicle any other way again.
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GM has people that actually recall the Ford Pinto verdict.
Tesla does not.
It isn't altruism.
Bolt is limited to a ~50 kW fast charging speed which severely limits its long road trip potential.
https://insideevs.com/news/613786...-charging/
Own a Tesla Model 3 and it can charge at 250 kW, but haven't used superchargers very much. Tesla fast charging normally gets you to 80% (over 200 miles) in about 20 minutes. Unless you drive more than 250 miles a day, I would guess most people will charge their cars at home. The Model 3 is a much, much nicer vehicle than a Bolt but they both handle well due to the low center of gravity that EVs have due to the battery weight under the floor.
Home charging - $0.20 per kWh or $12.00 from 0-100%
Supercharging - $0.38 per kWh or $22.80 from 0-100%
Work charger - free
(Numbers are for a 60 kWh Tesla Model 3)
Main reason I bought a Tesla was to avoid the ordeal of speaking with a car dealer. Purchased the Tesla 100% on their app - picked the options we wanted, arranged financing, and were never pressured to upgrade or add any extended warranties etc. I will never buy a vehicle any other way again.
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I personally like the style of my EUV. There are certainly uglier ICE cars being sold. Also, I'm not a teenager anymore so looks aren't the primary factor for me anyway.
I find it roomy enough inside even with 3 passengers.
I think for a new vehicle it's an exceptional price.
I think the battery will likely last as long as many engines/transmissions.
I believe it saves me money, both on gas and maintenance.
I think the electrical needs are being overstated. Some days I don't drive my car, 90% of the days I drive it less than 30 miles. Some people do drive more of course, but for the many of us who don't, we're taxing the electric grid very little.
More fast chargers are being built as we speak, but they'll never be needed in the same numbers as gas stations. Most people charge their EVs at home. I will save time and hassle not going to "fill up" anymore.
Above all, EVs are pleasant to drive in my opinion. Quiet and smooth and accelerate nicely.
If they aren't for you, that's great. Don't buy one. But resorting to petty, factually untrue insults is not only unnecessary, but kind of sad.
And for the Tesla fanboys who love to bash the Bolt, lay off a bit. As fellow EV owners, we have more in common with you than not. I have considered buying a Tesla for years, but for several reasons I chose the Bolt. I don't blame you for preferring the Tesla, but they do cost more and have certain aspects that are less desirable to some of us. Still, I'm glad to see more and more of them on the road each day. More EVs on the road will lead to better infrastructure for all of us I hope.
I though this was a typo on the OP's part, but the website does indeed state a 40 amp breaker on a NEMA 14-50 outlet. Umm talk about a code violation.
(Keep in mind that this is a universal outlet install, NOT a direct wiring install. So the breaker NEEDS to be sized to the maximum load limit, not just the load limit of the primary device that's going to be installed on it.)
And this has nothing to do with the fires. That was a battery issue, which has since been recalled and fixed (paid for by LG).
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As far as worrying about parts, it's a GM and borrows heavily from the GM parts bin just like any other GM. Also, being an EV what parts do you think you will be needing? It is much more reliable and will have less repairs over it's lifespan. Concerned about the battery? Don't be, it has an 8 year 100k-mile warranty (10 year 150k warranty in California).
It's a deal, every major automotive publication has labeled it as such, and one of the reasons that you cannot find them in stock anywhere.
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