Beginning in 2024, everyone under the income limit qualifies for the full $7,500 rebate. It does not matter if you owe less than that in taxes, and you can get it at the time of purchase instead of waiting for next year's taxes.
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frontpageDC13 posted Jun 03, 2023 09:12 PM
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frontpageDC13 posted Jun 03, 2023 09:12 PM
2023 Chevrolet Bolt EV 1LT + $7500 Tax Credit + In-Home Charger Install
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edit: For clarification from the wiki: "The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due."
So lower income people will not get a $7500 refund, it depends on your liability. i.e. A SDer responded about a student being angry in a previous thread that they only got $500 back and not $7500.
Virtually all of the ICE vehicle can be recycled. Generally the only items not recyclable per se will be interior trim - it's mixed plastic and rubber. Engine? steel or aluminum. Gearcases? Steel or aluminum. Body, frame, etc, steel or aluminum. In fact, about 86% of a car can be recycled [recyclenation.com].
Meanwhile your EV will still have a fully and readily recyclable frame and body, just like the ICE. The motor will generally be recyclable. The battery? Not really. Generally batteries and battery packs are not really designed for recycling. Most are just thousands of individual cylindrical cells, that themselves are spiral wound multilayer structures. There's no easy way to separate the materials here. An ICE, you literally rip out the engine with heavy equipment and include it in with any other steel or aluminum - the process is astonishingly easy and quick [youtube.com] with heavy equipment.
Meanwhile, the batteries are generally just shredded [ucsusa.org]. The resulting material is called "black mass" and is placed into a bath of caustic chemicals to leech out the *important* elements. In certain cases, that black mass is first incinerated to burn off plastic and epoxies. Yeah that sounds super efficient and environmental to me.
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I have yet to find one
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Why are you even here?
Really how far will the car travel at the 8 year 1 day mark, if it even charges.
Or all these disposable cars. Like a Garrity flashlight or a iPhone.
What's going to happen with all these used up batteries?
Where are all these raw materials and labor for these batteries coming from?
To charge these cars, where is the electricity coming from? Windmills and solar panels?
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Not sure what the "if it even charges" bit is--- are you aware of some EVs that routinely just stop charging at all? Which ones, and with what evidence?
As to how far at 8 years.... again there are no 8 year old bolts.
There ARE 8-10 year old Teslas though.
And we know they still go about 88% of their original range on average, after hundreds of thousands of miles.
Did you not know that? Because it makes your questions look even sillier, so I imagine you did not know that.
They get recycled, because they contain expensive minerals that make recycling quite profitable.
An industry doing less environmental damage than the one supplying gasoline.
In part, yes... and an increasingly large part.
Though even if it was 100% coal it'd still be better for the environment than a gas car... because it's VASTLY more efficient to burn fossils at efficient central plants for electricity than it is to burn them in highly inefficient ICE engines.
I eagerly await your next set of pearl clutching questions about topics you clearly didn't bother to check into before "asking" about em
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Hope this helps.
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Again, why are you even on this thread? Why won't you answer that?
It is a legitimate question that a lot of people contemplating an EV are concerned about.
You, and others here want to dance around it, like saying you can't time travel 8 years, that is your own deflection as no one asked that. The warranty could easily be over well before that due to miles, but either way, it doesn't matter, it is a concern.
ICE cars reliability and repair costs are pretty well known outside of the warranty and people know the risks pretty well and just want to know if they could possibly be on the hook for a repair that might just exceed the value of the car.
So rather than attack ,deflect, distract, defer, just answer the question, if you can. Otherwise STFU
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You, and others here want to dance around it, like saying you can't time travel 8 years, that is your own deflection as no one asked that. The warranty could easily be over well before that due to miles, but either way, it doesn't matter, it is a concern.
ICE cars reliability and repair costs are pretty well known outside of the warranty and people know the risks pretty well and just want to know if they could possibly be on the hook for a repair that might just exceed the value of the car.
So rather than attack ,deflect, distract, defer, just answer the question, if you can. Otherwise STFU
I had my 2017 Bolt EV battery replaced at 105.000 last year and it cost me $5 to fill up the tank of the ICE loaner.
This is your answer as of today.
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I had my 2017 Bolt EV battery replaced at 105.000 last year and it cost me $5 to fill up the tank of the ICE loaner.
This is your answer as of today.
Nothing like being honest right?
You had the battery replaced in your 2017 Bolt due to the recall about them catching on fire, right?
Park your vehicle outside immediately after charging and do not leave your vehicle charging indoors overnight.
You probably can't even get a replacement battery for a Bolt right now to buy as they are all being used for warranty replacement. Better hope that one lasts
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According to Autoline Network today- there's a chance the Bolt nomenclature will be based on the Ultium battery- since Barra said- GM didn't like current battery but Ultium could be a 3rd Gen!
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