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expiredaepro | Staff posted Jun 27, 2023 01:08 AM
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Zooz Z-Wave Switches: ZEN72 Dimmer $23.25, ZEN71 On/Off $22.95, ZEN34 Remote

& More + Free S&H on $99+

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ZoozCS
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This model is being upgraded to new 800 Series Long Range and is currently in low stock. We hope to release the new version by the end of the summer.
ZoozCS
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The transition from mosfet to triac was based on the growing trend in the LED bulb industry where most newer bulbs are built for triac dimmers which have been more available across the board. The move was motivated by our attempt to increase LED bulb compatibility for the most popular model.
We also found that some mosfet-designed bulbs would damage the components in the dimmers due to frequent circuit surges. The additional hardware solution to tackle this issue would bring the price of the dimmer to over $45.
At the same time, we're still working on optimizing the dimming performance by revising both software and hardware, while keeping the prices affordable.
cantstoplooking
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Titan water in the same sentence? TOO SOON!

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Jun 27, 2023 09:05 PM
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fasst9602Jun 27, 2023 09:05 PM
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I really want to like Zooz, but I'm one of those weirdos that LIKES the add on 3-way switch from Jasco/GE.
Jun 27, 2023 09:25 PM
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nyknicks8Jun 27, 2023 09:25 PM
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Quote from Giantcrazy :
I've been burnt before (by other manufacturers) but I think I'm ready to try another water valve controller. Fingers crossed, thanks OP!
Had the dome valve for a couple years then got the titan last year. So far works flawlessly. Titan is much better than the dome in just how solid it feels and operates
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Jun 27, 2023 11:08 PM
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Spidermonkey2123Jun 27, 2023 11:08 PM
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Not a fan of battery operated Zooz products. I have a few of them and they're all battery hogs.
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Jun 27, 2023 11:20 PM
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dangsyJun 27, 2023 11:20 PM
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Can anyone recommend a single on/off switch for a bathroom exhaust fan? I don't need speed modes just on and off. All of these say no to fans.
Jun 28, 2023 12:14 AM
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HoraceJun 28, 2023 12:14 AM
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Quote from dangsy :
Can anyone recommend a single on/off switch for a bathroom exhaust fan? I don't need speed modes just on and off. All of these say no to fans.
ZEN71 for a single pole, standalone switch.
ZEN51 relay if you want to keep your existing switch for aesthetics.
ZEN30 if you want an additional dimmer output for a bathroom light.

If anyone else needs help navigating the various Zooz switch options, this [getzooz.com] is helpful.
Jun 28, 2023 12:19 AM
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mikraphneJun 28, 2023 12:19 AM
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Quote from fasst9602 :
I really want to like Zooz, but I'm one of those weirdos that LIKES the add on 3-way switch from Jasco/GE.
The add on 3-ways in the Lutron Caseta (mounted Pico remotes) are where it's at. So easy to install, and you just tie it to whatever switch you want and you're done. Helps that it all works flawlessly with Apple Home for me. However, I've got a few Zooz 700 series switches as well and they do work great with Hubitat > Homebridge > Apple Home, and I am sure the 800 series is even better and faster (the 700 still had this half a second delay for me).
Jun 28, 2023 01:20 AM
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BadOceanJun 28, 2023 01:20 AM
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Quote from fasst9602 :
I really want to like Zooz, but I'm one of those weirdos that LIKES the add on 3-way switch from Jasco/GE.
I have a few Zooz things and I generally like them, but something sort of left a bad taste in my mouth with the company. A few years ago I bought a ZEN71 On/Off switch as a replacement for an older Jasco On/Off switch that I use in my kitchen to control the undercabinet lights. These switches wire to a standard outlet under the counter where the transformer for the lights are plugged in. After I wired up ZEN71, while everything was working, the switches made an audible buzzing sound when they were switched on. The older Jasco switches I had did not. I purchased them through Amazon, so I initiated a return. To their credit, Zooz reached out to me and asked why I was returning them. I explained the situation, and they replied and told me something along the lines of what I was trying to do was not a supported configuration. It's an on/off switch wired to a standard outlet. What's not supported about that? I didn't see anything anywhere that said I couldn't plug in a 12v transformer pulling maybe 20 watts. And the Jasco switch supports this just fine. So I replaced it with an (admittedly now more expensive) Jasco switch and things have been running great for years.

Anyway, it felt like I was being blamed because their product didn't function as I would reasonably expect it to. Seemed weird.
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Jun 28, 2023 01:34 AM
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snackdragJun 28, 2023 01:34 AM
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Quote from Giantcrazy :
I've been burnt before (by other manufacturers) but I think I'm ready to try another water valve controller. Fingers crossed, thanks OP!
I gave up on the zwave valve controls, but use the zooz relay to control a 24vdc industrial valve instead. Setup took 20 minutes. 2 solder or crimp joints. Zen17
Jun 28, 2023 01:40 AM
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DavidR4413Jun 28, 2023 01:40 AM
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Quote from BadOcean :
I have a few Zooz things and I generally like them, but something sort of left a bad taste in my mouth with the company. A few years ago I bought a ZEN71 On/Off switch as a replacement for an older Jasco On/Off switch that I use in my kitchen to control the undercabinet lights. These switches wire to a standard outlet under the counter where the transformer for the lights are plugged in. After I wired up ZEN71, while everything was working, the switches made an audible buzzing sound when they were switched on. The older Jasco switches I had did not. I purchased them through Amazon, so I initiated a return. To their credit, Zooz reached out to me and asked why I was returning them. I explained the situation, and they replied and told me something along the lines of what I was trying to do was not a supported configuration. It's an on/off switch wired to a standard outlet. What's not supported about that? I didn't see anything anywhere that said I couldn't plug in a 12v transformer pulling maybe 20 watts. And the Jasco switch supports this just fine. So I replaced it with an (admittedly now more expensive) Jasco switch and things have been running great for years.

Anyway, it felt like I was being blamed because their product didn't function as I would reasonably expect it to. Seemed weird.
Probably because that's not up to code so they can't claim it as a supported config.

IANAE but these are rated for resistive loads up to a certain wattage, and code would be considering what could be plugged into the outlet not what you actually are.
Jun 28, 2023 01:45 AM
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indian90Jun 28, 2023 01:45 AM
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Quote from TealMaid7482 :
I have it plugged into a 5bay Synology running HA and it picked it up without any issues. I have about 30 zooz switches and they all work seamlessly...famous last words
+1 to this.
Minr did not pick it up easily so the setup is a bit more involved because Synology has a hard time finding the USB but it's achievable
Jun 28, 2023 01:50 AM
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BadOceanJun 28, 2023 01:50 AM
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Quote from DavidR4413 :
Probably because that's not up to code so they can't claim it as a supported config.

IANAE but these are rated for resistive loads up to a certain wattage, and code would be considering what could be plugged into the outlet not what you actually are.
I don't understand. What's not up to code? It's a switched outlet, installed by a licensed electrician who had a permit pulled when the kitchen was remodeled, and was inspected (and passed) by the county upon completion. He installed a standard light switch, which I then later replaced with a Z-Wave switch (first with the Jasco, then the Zooz). Zooz's literature claims it supports resistive loads up to 15A/1800W.
Jun 28, 2023 02:33 AM
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TealMaid7482Jun 28, 2023 02:33 AM
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Quote from indian90 :
+1 to this.
Minr did not pick it up easily so the setup is a bit more involved because Synology has a hard time finding the USB but it's achievable
I spent a lot of time on forums and such before setting things up. There was a lot of frustration along the way. What I've learned is that it's all about your choice of Home Assistant install method and there are 4 options out there to my knowledge (ignoring home assistant yellow option because we're taking about Synology here as the hardware to run on). Not all options are equally straightforward and troubleshooting can be a pain if you're not a more advanced user or willing to learn very quickly.
Jun 28, 2023 03:56 AM
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HoraceJun 28, 2023 03:56 AM
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Quote from BadOcean :
I don't understand. What's not up to code? It's a switched outlet, installed by a licensed electrician who had a permit pulled when the kitchen was remodeled, and was inspected (and passed) by the county upon completion. He installed a standard light switch, which I then later replaced with a Z-Wave switch (first with the Jasco, then the Zooz). Zooz's literature claims it supports resistive loads up to 15A/1800W.
I can see both sides of the argument here, but a few points:
  • Just because an outlet was installed according to, and passed code, doesn't mean you can just swap it out to another unit and still maintain code compliance.
  • Literature may claim compliance with resistive loads up to 15A/1800W, but you didn't connect a resistive load.
  • The only switch Zooz explicitly states can be connected to a receptacle is the ZEN30 relay output. The ZEN71 metal faceplate is literally stamped with the words "DON'T CONNECT TO RECEPTACLES, OR USE TUBE LIGHTS"
Yes, a 20W LED transformer should not be an issue for this switch, but you were technically coloring outside the lines.
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Jun 28, 2023 03:59 AM
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BadOceanJun 28, 2023 03:59 AM
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Quote from Horace :
I can see both sides of the argument here, but a few points:
The ZEN71 metal faceplate is literally stamped with the words "DON'T CONNECT TO RECEPTACLES, OR USE TUBE LIGHTS"
Then that must be new because that wasn't there when I installed it several years ago.

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Jun 28, 2023 05:40 AM
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DanationJun 28, 2023 05:40 AM
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Quote from ZoozCS :
The transition from mosfet to triac was based on the growing trend in the LED bulb industry where most newer bulbs are built for triac dimmers which have been more available across the board. The move was motivated by our attempt to increase LED bulb compatibility for the most popular model.
We also found that some mosfet-designed bulbs would damage the components in the dimmers due to frequent circuit surges. The additional hardware solution to tackle this issue would bring the price of the dimmer to over $45.
At the same time, we're still working on optimizing the dimming performance by revising both software and hardware, while keeping the prices affordable.
Thank you for clarifying the rationale and taking the time to respond. That kind of customer service means a lot to me— which is also why I have so much Zooz in my house. Unfortunately the triads don't work for me and the older mosfet ones that didn't cost an arm and a leg before work flawlessly. I just wish the older option was still available so users could go for a leading edge or trailing edge solution based on what works best for them. The GE/Jasco switches are dirt cheap (I know, not Zwave LR and not as many config params as Zooz) so they managed to find the components and put them into a reasonably priced product still.

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