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expiredRockalittle posted Jul 09, 2023 02:54 AM
expiredRockalittle posted Jul 09, 2023 02:54 AM

Bird Bike Electric Bikes (A-Frame or V-Frame) $899 each + Free Shipping

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LifeHacker Shop [lifehacker.com] has Bird Bike Electric Bikes (A-Frame or V-Frame) for $899 each. Shipping is free.

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A FRAME - Stealth Black [lifehacker.com]
A FRAME - Gray [lifehacker.com]
V FRAME - White [lifehacker.com]
V FRAME - Gray [lifehacker.com]

FEATURES

Instant boost. Press the throttle on the handlebar to get all the speed you need for a boosted ride & an easier climb
36V/12.8Ah removable battery. Easy to remove for charging or charge while on the e-bike
500W powerful motor. Runs efficiently even at top speed
High-performance Carbon Drive Train. Designed to meet the demands of rough road & eliminate the need for chain maintenance
Anti-theft alarm. Fully-integrated alarm system with a 120-decibel alarm sound
Embedded dash display. Conveniently displays speed, distance, pedal assist mode, battery life & more

Includes

1x BirdBike V-Frame eBike (Gray)
1x 2.2mm Allen Key
2x Pedals
1x 3mm/4mm/5mm Y-Wrench
1x L-Key Philips Screwdriver
1x Cap Nut & Washer
2x Wheel Reflectors
2x Fasteners
1x Rear & Front Reflectors
1x Battery Keys & User Manual
1x Power Supply & Cable

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Expected Delivery: Jul 15 - Jul 22
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LifeHacker Shop [lifehacker.com] has Bird Bike Electric Bikes (A-Frame or V-Frame) for $899 each. Shipping is free.

AVAILABLE:

A FRAME - Stealth Black [lifehacker.com]
A FRAME - Gray [lifehacker.com]
V FRAME - White [lifehacker.com]
V FRAME - Gray [lifehacker.com]

FEATURES

Instant boost. Press the throttle on the handlebar to get all the speed you need for a boosted ride & an easier climb
36V/12.8Ah removable battery. Easy to remove for charging or charge while on the e-bike
500W powerful motor. Runs efficiently even at top speed
High-performance Carbon Drive Train. Designed to meet the demands of rough road & eliminate the need for chain maintenance
Anti-theft alarm. Fully-integrated alarm system with a 120-decibel alarm sound
Embedded dash display. Conveniently displays speed, distance, pedal assist mode, battery life & more

Includes

1x BirdBike V-Frame eBike (Gray)
1x 2.2mm Allen Key
2x Pedals
1x 3mm/4mm/5mm Y-Wrench
1x L-Key Philips Screwdriver
1x Cap Nut & Washer
2x Wheel Reflectors
2x Fasteners
1x Rear & Front Reflectors
1x Battery Keys & User Manual
1x Power Supply & Cable

Shipping
Ships to Contiguous US
Free Shipping
Expected Delivery: Jul 15 - Jul 22

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Jul 09, 2023 04:25 AM
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stone_Jul 09, 2023 04:25 AM
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$500 would be a good price to buy imo
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Jul 09, 2023 05:30 PM
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cvp33
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Jul 09, 2023 05:30 PM
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Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank cvp33

Getting hard to ignore the Wallke's on Amazon at $699. Basically beats every spec on the bike above:

- Battery size 36/12.8 vs 48/10.4
- Range (which I don't believe they're numbers with that battery pack) 50 vs. 60
- Motor No name 500w vs. Bafang 500w/750peak
- Top speed 20 vs. 22
- Suspension None vs. adjustable dual shock fork
- Deraileur / gears No name vs. Shimano
- Warranty 1 year vs. 2 year
- Price $899 + TAX + Shipping vs. $699 minus 5% Amazon card and free shipping
- Extras
Last edited by cvp33 July 9, 2023 at 11:42 AM.
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Jul 09, 2023 05:42 PM
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slickwerty35Jul 09, 2023 05:42 PM
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The good: Carbon Belt Drive
The OK: Bafang 500W Rear hub motor (Vs VanMoof's center-hub motor)
The meh: 36V vs 48V of the Gen3 Stride
The ugly: VERY limited support for this product, it might be end-of-life? Not sure how long these batteries have been sitting in an over-discharged state as this price has been offered over a year ago IIRC

All-in, an average price given that Gen3 went out of business shortly after the sales; you would also have to source your own cargo rack for this bike.
Jul 10, 2023 02:35 AM
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HartageJul 10, 2023 02:35 AM
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Quote from cvp33 :
Getting hard to ignore the Wallke's on Amazon at $699. Basically beats every spec on the bike above:

- Battery size 36/12.8 vs 48/10.4
- Range (which I don't believe they're numbers with that battery pack) 50 vs. 60
- Motor No name 500w vs. Bafang 500w/750peak
- Top speed 20 vs. 22
- Suspension None vs. adjustable dual shock fork
- Deraileur / gears No name vs. Shimano
- Warranty 1 year vs. 2 year
- Price $899 + TAX + Shipping vs. $699 minus 5% Amazon card and free shipping
- Extras
Hmm, perhaps a counterpoint to the counterpoint. OK....first, the goals of the designers need to be addressed for the overview. The designers of the Bird ebike I surmise (I could be wrong) would be not to sell the bike, but to build a ebike to serve a company (not an individual) need to have a serviceable ebike that would perform in the rental ebike market. The amazon ebike would be designed with a completely different goal in mind, that goal would be to sell ebikes in the retail space, and this includes designing specs with marketing goals in mind to boost sales. These are two entirely different goals and have entirely different needs. In the Bird ebike, the specs are not manipulated at all and will be chosen based on performance and reliability NOT to sell. The buying decisions are made by the rental company not by the end consumers renting the bikes. Corporate buyers are far less susceptible to spec marketing BS and are far more likely to hire professionals to guard against smoke and mirrors BS. So having said that, on to the specs. My speculations on specs are just that speculation, I could be completely wrong, but these are just my opinion and counterpoints. My overarching goal is just to point out that further inspection is needed and not to just believe the marketing BS that the retail industry engages in and this includes making specs pretty while hiding the truth to sell rather than serve the consumers well.

Battery size 36v / 12.8ah vs 48v / 10.4ah

Sure the higher specs look pretty but what is the goal and what is the truth ? Ultimate amount of spec (greater) does not mean squat if it won't survive to do it's duty. Meaning the lower spec Bird batteries might be lower spec to maintain the reliability by going with more expensive more reliable batteries that will last 5 years of service life as opposed to higher spec but less reliable batteries. The higher spec batteries might have higher failure rates and lower lifespan of cycles. Ultimately it's a balance of price, efficiency and reliablity to serve performance in the rental ebike space not to trigger a purchase from a consumer.

Range 50 vs 60

What is there to say ? marketing BS will over inflate and rental ebike consumers won't even consider it because they don't have a choice, heck they won't even see range specs at all. This would give higher confidence of accuracy where there is less marketing BS pressure.

Motor no name 500w vs Bafang 500w/750peak

Maybe, maybe not, the no name Bird motor may well be a Bafang and may well be specd the same or higher than the amazon bike, not sure what reality is as there isn't enough information given by Bird. This one could go either way, hard to really tell.

Top speed 20 vs 22

Again, who knows.... can't really address this without testing it but a 2mph difference, even if real at least to me does not make much difference.

Suspension none vs adjustable dual shock fork

Ah, this is one of the big BS marketing schticks. In all reality, all BS aside the harsh reality is this. In my opinion it is better to have no suspension at all than garbage suspension. This is one of those areas where it's best to be on one side of the freeway or the other side, the middle is where all the trouble and danger are. Either have no suspension and have the efficiency and reliability of no suspension, really the practical choice if price is a factor. Or have reliable suspension that performs well but the price skyrockets because the level of manufacturing to do so goes up considerably. The low cost bike but still have suspension is the danger point, where you get garbage that will breakdown on you the second the warranty runs out and force you to buy actually reliable suspension which is expensive AND have to install it. Bird ebike choice of no suspension on the surface looks like the lesser choice, but in practice and reality is the best choice if price is an important consideration.

Deraileur/gears no name vs Shimano

This isn't comparable in any way shape or form. The Bird ebike does not even have any deraileurs at all, it's carbon belt, only one gear, period. Performance is incomparible, yes the Bird bike has only one gear, but it's carbon belt, reliability is through the roof, likely will be zero maintinance. Look up bicycles with carbon belt drivetrains, they are all expensive. This feature is sought after by people that want a reliable bike, and are not fooled by marketing hocus pocus. Lots of people that have no need for multiple gears and want reliability and efficiency UPGRADE to carbon belt drives.

Warranty 1 year vs 2 year

Who knows about this one, not sure the Bird bike will even have the company being still around to warranty it 6 months from now, the bike itself is rock solid. But these are ebikes from the failed ebike rental market. Not sure how future reliability of the manufacturer of the bikes will be considering they have to sell these at drastically slashed prices.

Price $899 vs $699

Well for the Bird ebike you are buying a $3000 (my opinion) bike for $899 for the amazon bike your buying a $699 bike for $699 no matter how they dress it up with marketing BS.

Now I'm not trying to ruffle anybody's feathers, just presenting my opinion with a secondary goal of pointing out that not everything on the surface is as it seems. Marketing BS has the primary goal of BSing you to separate you from your money. The counter to that is to educate yourself as much as possible, and preferably gain some experience with the actual products and reality before falling victim to marketing BS.




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Jul 10, 2023 05:37 PM
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paintmekevJul 10, 2023 05:37 PM
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Quote from cvp33 :
Getting hard to ignore the Wallke's on Amazon at $699. Basically beats every spec on the bike above:

- Battery size 36/12.8 vs 48/10.4
- Range (which I don't believe they're numbers with that battery pack) 50 vs. 60
- Motor No name 500w vs. Bafang 500w/750peak
- Top speed 20 vs. 22
- Suspension None vs. adjustable dual shock fork
- Deraileur / gears No name vs. Shimano
- Warranty 1 year vs. 2 year
- Price $899 + TAX + Shipping vs. $699 minus 5% Amazon card and free shipping
- Extras
https://slickdeals.net/f/16340767-bird-bike-electric-bikes-a-frame-or-v-frame-899-free-shipping?p=160636678#post160636678

Motor: https://bafang-e.com/en/oem-area/...g040500dc/
Battery: WD-HD3613-S 36v 12.8Ah 460.8Wh Hunan Wisdom Technology
Front Chainring: Gates CT11555AA Rev H - 55 tooth
Rear sprocket: Gates CT1122SVN Rev A - 22 tooth
Belt: Gates Carbon Drive 122T
Seat: Selle Royal, not sure what model
Tires: Kenda 700x45C

Ive been riding this the last 6 months and its a blast. Ive even done some trail riding in the canyons of San Diego and was surprised at how it kept up.
Last edited by paintmekev July 10, 2023 at 11:40 AM.
Jul 10, 2023 11:04 PM
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yoonkiyaJul 10, 2023 11:04 PM
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https://www.amazon.com/Bird-Elect...s_li_ss_tl

It sells for $600 with a coupon. That price is expensive?
Jul 11, 2023 06:30 PM
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rob256Jul 11, 2023 06:30 PM
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Quote from yoonkiya :
https://www.amazon.com/Bird-Elect...s_li_ss_tl

It sells for $600 with a coupon. That price is expensive?
What is the coupon code? I am getting $600 + 100 shipping.

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Jul 11, 2023 06:54 PM
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zoglogJul 11, 2023 06:54 PM
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AFAIK there is no support for these, but for a belt drive bike it's a good price obviously\

Reason I'm not jumping on it is that there seem to be limited accessories. Need to have a rear rack and front basket.
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cvp33
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Wallke preceded Gen3 and likely built them. My Gen3 has been flawless after a year, but only 300 miles so I'm probably not an extreme enough rider to really tax the platform. But after my experience I'd definitely by the WALLKE at $699. I think we all paid $750 for the Gen3 on deal after the PayPal rebate.
Last edited by cvp33 July 11, 2023 at 01:37 PM.
Jul 14, 2023 09:24 AM
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Nateng72Jul 14, 2023 09:24 AM
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Quote from yoonkiya :
https://www.amazon.com/Bird-Elect...s_li_ss_tl

It sells for $600 with a coupon. That price is expensive?
Don't forget to add $165 delivery charge.
Jul 22, 2023 01:30 PM
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rcs1957Jul 22, 2023 01:30 PM
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If you live in new england, this bike is $1,000 at Ocean State job lots, but they give you a $500 gift card to be used at Ocean State.
Sep 19, 2023 01:24 AM
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FabulousAlpaca618Sep 19, 2023 01:24 AM
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You can get this on Wellbots for $739 with free shipping

https://www.wellbots.com/products...ctric-bike

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